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[Reorte]

Nice, might have to give the Crusader another go, might make getting a Crusader in half my victory packs rather less annoying.

Apologies to the guy I suggested just two days ago to not bother putting much into stickies on the QFI.

[nick91_99]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!

Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?

Those that are really hurt by this change would be.

not really...i actually barely take cover and use adrenaline mod with this character. it must be nerfed tho because people sit and hide and dont use the character right. there shouldve never been a nerf to this, or to the pirhana, or typhoon, or smash, . etc etc. rather buffs to garbage guns like the pulse rifle and everything else thats crap.  and what about the people that spam grenades over and over and over and over. whats the difference? 

[CmnDwnWrkn]

known_hero wrote...

Poison_Berrie wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down. no buff to sniper rifles. this is officially the end for me.

If you were really using Slash as often as the cooldown allowed, a lot people are going to be glad you no longer shaking their screen all the time. 

Yes, this is true. I've played with 2 Slayers who kept using ES over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

11 waves of non-stop ES. It was easily the most annoying match I've ever played. I for one and happy that it got a cooldown nerf.

You must not play that often if you've only played 2 matches with Slayers spamming Biotic Slash endlessly.

[MuKen]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!

Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?

Those that are really hurt by this change would be.

You have no clue about this class.

ES cooldown nerfing cripples a lot of the tools this class had that had nothing to do with spamming.  If they wanted to nerf the wallhack spammers, they should have just hit its damage and range directly.  Now they've completely crippled all of the cancel-based stuff that made this a fun class.

There's very little reason now for most Shadows to spec ES at all.  Ironically, the only people that SHOULD still take ES are those that will build the whole Shadow around doing ES and try to make the spamming still work.

Modifié par MuKen, 21 août 2012 - 06:23 .

[hudder92]

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down. no buff to sniper rifles except one thats crap. this is officially the end for me.

Wow really? It's argueably the best sniper rifle in the game. It's the only sniper rifle I use.

edit: I'm sorry, I misread the balance change. I thought they were re-buffing the Krysae. I guess I need to learn to read.

Modifié par hudder92, 21 août 2012 - 08:35 .

[Poison_Berrie]

nick91_99 wrote...

not really...i actually barely take cover and use adrenaline mod with this character. it must be nerfed tho because people sit and hide and dont use the character right. there shouldve never been a nerf to this, or to the pirhana, or typhoon, or smash, . etc etc. rather buffs to garbage guns like the pulse rifle and everything else thats crap.  and what about the people that spam grenades over and over and over and over. whats the difference? 

Even with Grenade Gear V, grenades are a relativelly sparse resource. Unless you are a Demolisher, spamming grenades and restocking via ammo packs isn't going to last you through more than 4 or 5 waves and if you are a Demolisher it's the only thing you've really got. 

The Cooldowns on Smash and Slash are reasonable and Slash still has a good range going for it.
Piranha should never have received a buff in the first place, but the nerf it got was neccesary, likewise the Typhoon was a little on the OP side with all it's hidden multipliers (though people are getting inconsistent results with it, meaning it might be bugged now).

And there's few people who wouldn't want to see things like the GPR get a buff.

[Imp of the Perverse]

nick91_99 wrote...




typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down. no buff to sniper rifles except one thats crap. this is officially the end for me.

Wait, so we just lost another slash spammer? Best changes ever.

[nick91_99]

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...




typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down. no buff to sniper rifles except one thats crap. this is officially the end for me.

Wait, so we just lost another slash spammer? Best changes ever.

im sure you wont be happy later knowing that people like me cant carry you anymore.

Modifié par nick91_99, 21 août 2012 - 06:46 .

[mistervirginia]

Air Quotes wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!

Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?

To be fair, almost all Shadows and Slayers I've played with spam ES/BS ALL the game. Nothing else. No shadow strike, no charge or phase disruptor. NOTHING. Only slashes. Especially on smaller maps like Glacier or White. 

these are called bad players.  N7 Shadow was my fav until this nerf.  i have Shadow Strike spec'd as a main power, and ES as a second power.  i ES if i see a group of troopers spawn after i'm cloaked.  this kills them all in one swipe.  great crowd controller, that's it.  or i'll use it to keep a guy from stomping on a friendly.  otherwise, i SS everything i see, sans bosses when at full strength.  the nerf on the Shadow was uncalled for, imo, and i think it will get a later buff.  my guy is already very squishy.  i relied on being able to use this as a backup incase i was near death.  now, i'll just always be on the floor.  great job, BioWare.  great job.  so many bad nerfs... this may be the end of me playing this game.

[tetsutsuru]

holdenagincourt wrote...

I just tried the Locust in Silver. It's still trash. In Silver.

The problem with SMGs is that there's just no "close second best" to the Hurricane.  The next best SMG is the Tempest, but even at level X, it's not a "close second" to the Hurricane.  And that's even with the Tempest at X, and the Hurricane at a mere level I.

[Mgamerz]

.5 second nerf
People complain.

[Leland Gaunt]

Nice changes this time. Now, if only Vanguards weren't prone to glitching...

[darkchief10]

nick91_99 wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...




typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down. no buff to sniper rifles except one thats crap. this is officially the end for me.

Wait, so we just lost another slash spammer? Best changes ever.

im sure you wont be happy later knowing that people like me cant carry you anymore.

lol @ spammers carrying us. sorry you don't carry people, you just annoy the hell out of us and think that because you stole everyones kill and topped the leaderboard you are uber leet, and besides you quit every week so yawn.

[Atheosis]

Most of the changes make sense. But the Locust "buff" just cracks me up. The worst non-common gun in the game isn't going to suddenly be good with a 10% damage increase. Not sure why overpowered guns get 40% DPS nerfs while massively underpowered guns get 10% buffs, but there you have it.

[tetsutsuru]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!

Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?

Those that are really hurt by this change would be.

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps is those who do nothing but spam Biotic/Electric Slashes are the ones "doing it wrong"?

I don't spam Electric Slash on my N7 Shadow.  Hell, I only got my ES up to a mere 3 ranks.  In a match, you'd be damn lucky if you see me fire it a couple of times.  And that's the entire time across all ELEVEN waves of at least Gold.  This nerf really sucks because now *I* don't have that option to fire 2 or 3 in succession for crowd control so I can revive a teammate and buy enough staggered enemy time to get the hell out of the immediate area.

Having options taken away, is ALWAYS a bad thing.

As far as this nerf is concerned, toning it down just a tad is one thing.  Crippling it is entirely another -- and this is what this nerf exactly is.  And for what reason?  Simply because of jackasses who were the ones DOING IT WRONG by doing nothing but spamming Smash/BioticSlash/ElectricSlash across 11 waves?

And now all the rest of us have to suffer because of it?  "Game Balance" is an exercise in "fairness".  That's a given.  Now, where the hell is the fairness in that?

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 21 août 2012 - 06:58 .

[mykejm]

The ES/BS and Smash changes feel a lot like band-aids to address complaints of screen-shaking. Removing screen shake would require a patch, but limiting how frequently it can be done is a balance change. It's similar to how the missile cooldown was a temporary band-aid to reduce missile glitchers.

[Atheosis]

tetsutsuru wrote...

Poison_Berrie wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

cuzIMgood wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down.

Because standing in one place pushing the same button over and over is so fun...

Great changes this week overall!

Yeah, because EVERY SINGLE N7 Shadow/Slayer does nothing but that, right?

Those that are really hurt by this change would be.

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps is those who do nothing but spam Biotic/Electric Slashes are the ones "doing it wrong"?

I don't spam Electric Slash on my N7 Shadow.  Hell, I only got my ES up to a mere 3 ranks.  In a match, you'd be damn lucky if you see me fire it a couple of times.  And that's the entire times across all ELEVEN waves of at least Gold.  This nerf really sucks because now *I* don't have that option to fire 2 or 3 in succession for crowd control so I can revive a teammate and buy enough staggered enemy time to get the hell out of the immediate area.

Having options taken away, is ALWAYS a bad thing.

As far as this nerf is concerned, toning it down just a tad is one thing.  Crippling it is entirely another -- and this is what this nerf exactly is.  And for what reason?  Simply because of jackasses who were the ones DOING IT WRONG by doing nothing but spamming Smash/BioticSlash/ElectricSlash across 11 waves?

And now all the rest of us have to suffer because of it?  "Game Balance" is an exercise in "fairness".  That's a given.  Now, where the hell is the fairness in that?

By now I think it's pretty obvious that BW is going to nerf powers that are very powerful and very spammable.  The Slash powers fell into that category, and thus were nerfed.  They are still good powers by the way.

[nick91_99]

darkchief10 wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...




typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down. no buff to sniper rifles except one thats crap. this is officially the end for me.

Wait, so we just lost another slash spammer? Best changes ever.

im sure you wont be happy later knowing that people like me cant carry you anymore.

lol @ spammers carrying us. sorry you don't carry people, you just annoy the hell out of us and think that because you stole everyones kill and topped the leaderboard you are uber leet, and besides you quit every week so yawn.

not really. have been waiting for these changes to really solidify it for me. and TBH, the whole game is spamming! all people do is play firebase white and chuck grenade after grenade, or spam warp and throw, or spam smash a million times. and nerfing slash was absolutely unnecessary. ps i carry with or without it. thanks.

[Atheosis]

mykejm wrote...

The ES/BS and Smash changes feel a lot like band-aids to address complaints of screen-shaking. Removing screen shake would require a patch, but limiting how frequently it can be done is a balance change. It's similar to how the missile cooldown was a temporary band-aid to reduce missile glitchers.

No I'm pretty sure it was done because of the Slayers and Shadows who were leading their teams in points using almost nothing else all match.  If Smash got the 5 second to 8 second nerf, I'm really not getting how anyone could expect the Slash powers to not get the same treatment.

[darkchief10]

nick91_99 wrote...

darkchief10 wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

nick91_99 wrote...




typical. nerf slash. anything fun and useful has to be toned down. no buff to sniper rifles except one thats crap. this is officially the end for me.

Wait, so we just lost another slash spammer? Best changes ever.

im sure you wont be happy later knowing that people like me cant carry you anymore.

lol @ spammers carrying us. sorry you don't carry people, you just annoy the hell out of us and think that because you stole everyones kill and topped the leaderboard you are uber leet, and besides you quit every week so yawn.

not really. have been waiting for these changes to really solidify it for me. and TBH, the whole game is spamming! all people do is play firebase white and chuck grenade after grenade, or spam warp and throw, or spam smash a million times. and nerfing slash was absolutely unnecessary. ps i carry with or without it. thanks.

and you feel the need to justify yourself to me why?

[Voorhees88]

are we gonna get a typhoon rebuff

[LeandroBraz]

Well done... I was planning to play the SP today, but now I'm curious to play with my novaguard...

[TMB903]

Not bad BW...In the future maybe a weight decrease on Crusader? To the people who don't spam ES and BS(myself included) this isn't even a nerf...Funny thing is on my Slayer I absolutely love Phase Disruptor and use that more than BS