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[whateverman7]

at this point, the changes are whatever to me....said it before, i'll say it again: the changes arent balancing anything, it's just bw's way of trying to dictate how we should play.....

anyway, the thing i find funny though is that there are people happy for the slash nerfs....it's another example of what i dont understand about this gaming community: whenever yall find something that works and makes the game easier, yall run here and post about it; people then take what yall say and apply it; the min they do though, yall then complain about it and hope it gets changed cause others used it....lol yall are confused...

[llandwynwyn]

I was ready to give up on Sticky grenades but with this buff I'll give it another chance, though I wish the radius was buffed as well.

[tetsutsuru]

TMB903 wrote...

Not bad BW...In the future maybe a weight decrease on Crusader? To the people who don't spam ES and BS(myself included) this isn't even a nerf...Funny thing is on my Slayer I absolutely love Phase Disruptor and use that more than BS

Please excuse the slightly off-topic...

My brother's main kit is the N7 Slayer, and he too, loves the Phase Disruptor.  Hell, I think it's a cool power as well.  I mentioned, "wouldn't it be cool if the Phase Disruptor could detonate Biotic Explosions?"

But then BSN will cry "OMG OP NERF IT!" in 0.5 sec.  Heh.

[kaileena_sands]

 I played my Shadow on Bronze/Silver tonight and honestly, the nerf is not a big problem for me (but on higher difficulties? Can't say, someone else has to give an opinion). As someone else said, I only put 3 points in ES and mostly as a crowd control tool when a lot of baddies crowd you. It's a shame it has been nerfed though, if there weren't complaints right and left going about it, there would be no such thing (I am not saying that people complaining is the problem though but rather the people constantly spamming it to brain damaging quantities).
I am really happy Biotic Charge got a buff though. I can go back to my Asari vanguard and have even more fun with it! 

[Grunt_Platform]

lawl @ Slash cooldown.


Anyway, Biotic Charge buff! Crusader buff! I'm really happy with this.

The locust buff is pretty hilarious though. I'm going to try it out, but somehow I'm skeptical that a 10% damage buff is going to do the trick.

Modifié par EvanKester, 21 août 2012 - 07:22 .

[eltdown]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Kishock Sniper Rifle
- Damage multiplier for full charge increased from 150% to 175%

My name is Captain Ahab and I approve of this buff.

Seriously though, I'm liking the changes to the Vanguard force and damage. Might have to get the Drellguard out of cryostasis.

[N7 Whiskey]

Loving the Biotic Charge buff as now I can use radius and still stagger phantoms without the use of any extra gear/equipment. Only downside is my lobbies won't fill up because everyone will be trying to host their own lobby. Off to promote my Vanguards as I don't have enough respec cards for all of them.


*edit - also the Locust buff is laughable at best.  Does anyone think 5pts of damage per shot is going to make any difference at all? Should have been 25pt increase to make it even worth trying.

Modifié par BuckshotSamurai, 21 août 2012 - 07:30 .

[Olivia Wilde]

May have to play Kroguards more often

The recharge time on Biotic/Electic spam needed to be changed

If only to reduce heavy loadouts on Shadows

[MajorStupidity]

overall a good week, but BW that damage increase on the locust (while a step in the right direction) is pitiful. The locust still needs more love.

Hooray for Sticky Grenades!!

[CmnDwnWrkn]

I can't even imagine how bad the Locust was originally. This is, what, the THIRD buff??

[Olivia Wilde]

MajorStupidity wrote...

overall a good week, but BW that damage increase on the locust (while a step in the right direction) is pitiful. The locust still needs more love.

Hooray for Sticky Grenades!!

Hooray for my FQI (the only Infiltrator I continued to play two weeks after Earth was released)

[N7 Whiskey]

tetsutsuru wrote...

TMB903 wrote...

Not bad BW...In the future maybe a weight decrease on Crusader? To the people who don't spam ES and BS(myself included) this isn't even a nerf...Funny thing is on my Slayer I absolutely love Phase Disruptor and use that more than BS

Please excuse the slightly off-topic...

My brother's main kit is the N7 Slayer, and he too, loves the Phase Disruptor.  Hell, I think it's a cool power as well.  I mentioned, "wouldn't it be cool if the Phase Disruptor could detonate Biotic Explosions?"

But then BSN will cry "OMG OP NERF IT!" in 0.5 sec.  Heh.

Hell the only thing keeping Phase Disruptor off the chopping block right now is the extreme delay when not hosting.  I was already doing 3k+ damage with all 3 shots plus tech burst damage on the first shot but now I get an extra 10% boost after BC, so yeah it's gonna be even better.

[holdenagincourt]

tetsutsuru wrote...

holdenagincourt wrote...

I just tried the Locust in Silver. It's still trash. In Silver.

The problem with SMGs is that there's just no "close second best" to the Hurricane.  The next best SMG is the Tempest, but even at level X, it's not a "close second" to the Hurricane.  And that's even with the Tempest at X, and the Hurricane at a mere level I.

I think the Hornet is better than the Tempest, especially with the new SMG mods. It has an extremely tight spread (especially compared to the Tempest), so once the recoil is brought under control by the stab mod you can basically snipe with it. Not to mention it has higher damage and burst DPS.

It really should be buffed though, so that it clearly outclasses the Tempest as its rarity advantage and burst fire handicap justify.

[palmof40sorrows]

TMB903 wrote...

Not bad BW...In the future maybe a weight decrease on Crusader? To the people who don't spam ES and BS(myself included) this isn't even a nerf...Funny thing is on my Slayer I absolutely love Phase Disruptor and use that more than BS

YES! I loooove Phase Disruptor. Biotic Slash is a good back up plan, but it is much more fun to be mobile and use Phase Disruptor. Phase, Phase, Charge, light melee a couple times, Charge, Phase Phase, etc. Good times! Good week of balance changes, all in all.

[N7-RedFox]

These are all good balance changes. Bravo, Bioware 'bout time. Would still really appreciate a RoF buff for Krysae and Falcon though to make them usuable again.

[Poison_Berrie]

tetsutsuru wrote...

As far as this nerf is concerned, toning it down just a tad is one thing.  Crippling it is entirely another -- and this is what this nerf exactly is.  And for what reason?  Simply because of jackasses who were the ones DOING IT WRONG by doing nothing but spamming Smash/BioticSlash/ElectricSlash across 11 waves?

But you see this isn't crippling.
It's still a very useful and powerfull power. It just shouldn't be spammed. 

If this was the case, powers like throw and CS should have no cooldown at all and ranged damage powers like Incinerate and Warp and Shockwave should have a CD similar to Slash.

[xGunKungFUx]

awesome changes. seeing the biotic charge increase made me smile lol

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

Of course the slashes get the same treatment smash did, was gonna happen eventually. Oh, well. The buff on the biotic charge was unexcpected, along with the locust and kishock buffs. At least my chargeless AV can net herself a great white Atlas even faster. Hehehe.

[immanji]

please buff the Eagle next week! It is not fun to play with at all.

[Gamemako]

I like these buffs, but they'll need to address a few issues with it (e.g. the already-underpowered Drellguard got a kick in the nuts by being unable to stagger Phantoms with area charge and getting meager buffs to everything else).

I need to get my Vanguard buff thread out the door so I can throw time at more math about things that need buffs. You know, like the FQE.

[hawgwild5757]

I heartily approve of this weeks changes. The Kishock and Crusader needed something, and the constant spamming (and screen shaking) of the Slash powers makes scoped weapons useless. Too bad the people doing it didn't give a rat's ass, now they've gotten it nerfed.

[parico]

I hate nerfs but I kinda figured they would nerf the slashes. They had no choice after they put the phoenix's back to their original coldown they had to level the field.

[tetsutsuru]

holdenagincourt wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

holdenagincourt wrote...

I just tried the Locust in Silver. It's still trash. In Silver.

The problem with SMGs is that there's just no "close second best" to the Hurricane.  The next best SMG is the Tempest, but even at level X, it's not a "close second" to the Hurricane.  And that's even with the Tempest at X, and the Hurricane at a mere level I.

I think the Hornet is better than the Tempest, especially with the new SMG mods. It has an extremely tight spread (especially compared to the Tempest), so once the recoil is brought under control by the stab mod you can basically snipe with it. Not to mention it has higher damage and burst DPS.

It really should be buffed though, so that it clearly outclasses the Tempest as its rarity advantage and burst fire handicap justify.

+1

And you're right.  I forgot about the Hornet.  Heh.  SMGs need buffs across the board.  But based on the trend, instead of SMG buffs, we're more likely to get a Hurricane nerf instead.

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 21 août 2012 - 08:40 .

[Shotgunner]

Okay, I'm glad the locust bandwagon has been temporarily slowed...

I want some love for the Javelin! 30% Bleed through shield-gate !?

[Ksingh]

Shadow should not have been buffed . the damn this is any way fragile .....Bioware are you hell bent on spoiling the game . firstly you took out the head shot damage on bosses throw sniping to the ditch .....lets be frank how many ppl play with salarian or quarian infeltrators on platnum..leave aside the farming maps but there are guys like us who use unknown ...unknow on platnum and beat it . If this continues good players will stop playing ...rather than buffing and nerfing fix bugs and patches. the screen shake when electric slash is used should be fixed . not the eletric slash ... .... i dont want to sound roude but fix the game... i also see the missile glitch coming again fix that too .... there are people who have N7 ranking way below my self but have their N7 wepon maxed out if you folks truely believe in fair play fix the game ... Van gard glitch which you dont agree still exist . Ksihok sniper rifile is good but on laggy connection its no good. Claymore needs to be buffed along with widow and black widow . get the head shot damage back . ........ for god sake you folks have messed up single player campain in the name of art dont repeat the same with MP player .
ppl who play this game knows the multiplayer co-op there will always be cheaters and folks who will always complain on the forum . you are not making things challanging you folks are breaking the game with this nonsense that is carried out in the name of balance change ..... all high ranining n7 players feel the same ..