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#51
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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I say Yes to Elephant Canon. The Elephant Canon, sweeps the elephant in the room (Starchild and the three endings) under the rug and pretends it was never there. This is very important.

Canon ending is Refuse, but the Quarians blow up the reapers and save the current cycle from annihilation. Shepard and Anderson survive. The final 20 minutes of ME3 are never mentioned again. There is no save game import.

The race that didn't go full retard: They were ignored by the writers. The logic here is there are some Quarians on the Citadel doing their pilgrimage during Saren's attack. Sovereign gets destroyed. These Quarians salvage pieces of Sovereign and take them back to the flotilla. The Quarians develop an ultra top secret superweapon which they tell no one about because they're considered militaristic unclean outcasts by 99% of the galaxy. They equip all their ships with it, but are careful not to use it unless given authority by the admiralty board.

So during the battle against the reapers at Earth, when the Sword fleet attacks and all that, after all the Hammer team stuff get shredded and everything, and Shepard makes the choice on the Crucible and tells Starbrat to go shove it by picking "I may die, but at least I will die free." and Starbrat says "Let the harvest continue." The reapers start shredding the Turian and Earth fleet, but something happens.

The Quarian Fleet lets loose. Hackett just says these words as reapers just start dropping dead. "What the f*** was that?" coming from the Quarian flotilla. And the Quarians just mop the floor with the reapers. The battle is over. And soon all the reapers in the galaxy are dead. Shepard and Anderson are found still alive.

This sets up ME4: with Commander Shepard. Anderson is alive -- we must have Keith David because Mass Effect needs Keith David. You get two familiar squad members: probably Liara and James, and a bunch of brand new faces. Shepard gets some completely new task like establishing peaceful relations with the Yahg (who ate the last group who tried to establish relations) or stamping out racism or other next to impossible task.

What gets stated in the Codex about the reaper war: During the Battle for Earth, Commander Shepard and Admiral Anderson made it into the Citadel and did battle with The Illusive Man. Shepard killed the Illusive Man and opened the Citadel arms. The Crucible docked with the Citadel, but the Crucible didn't work. The Allied fleet battled the reapers, and the reapers were ripping through the front lines of the fleet. The Quarians who had been holding back made their move and unleashed a barrage never before seen in galactic history on the reapers. Reaper vessels began exploding throughout the solar system, and soon the Quarians took their fleet to every system in the galaxy that had a mass relay and wiped the galaxy clean of reaper ships. And on the Citadel, deep within a previously unexplored section an electrical fire broke out and later it was determined that it was the AI that controlled the reapers that completely burned up. As of 2186 the reapers are no more. The Quarians now hold a leadership seat on the Citadel Council.

Pros: Almost no one gets what they want because 80% dislike the Quarians and 99% chose something other than refuse. It also goes against any of the three possible canons BioWare would select from Starbrat's choices. And because it stars Shepard and Anderson it will sell.

Cons: There really aren't any.

It is full of win.

:o

This originally was Conniving_Eagle's idea, but somehow my link got linked back to this post I had to flesh it out here. So here it is.


Thats actually awesome, sweep the elephant in the room under the rug and never talk of it again.

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Shanook wrote...

I really hope they don't make a ME4. Even if ME3 had been absolutely perfect and I had zero complaints about it, I would not want a ME4. It was planned as a trilogy; leave it as a trilogy.


yeah i really dont want an me4. And if they did do one they need to wait a couple of years. and hopefully get some new writers.

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Elephant Theory is the greatest post here since the "Weekes is the deadliest SOB" thread.

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Versus Omnibus wrote...

And say YES that we should import our endings (Destroy, Control, and Synthesis) to ME4 if it takes place after 3.


I agree 100%

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I don't see a problem with a canon ending

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Mass Effect 4 is not allowed to happen for at least a decade so we can all be amazed at how good Neve Campbell still looks ;) ;)

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Versus Omnibus wrote...

And say YES that we should import our endings (Destroy, Control, and Synthesis) to ME4 if it takes place after 3.

Not sure if serious...

Could you even imagine how incredibly difficult it would be to write a different scenario for each ending and its consequences and make it fit with the main plot of the sequel?
You've seen how our choices (ME1 and ME2) were handled in ME3 and yet you want a ME4 taking all the dramatic, galactic changes that resulted from the red/blue/green ending into account?

Wake up.

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Uncle Jo wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

And say YES that we should import our endings (Destroy, Control, and Synthesis) to ME4 if it takes place after 3.

Not sure if serious...

Could you even imagine how incredibly difficult it would be to write a different scenario for each ending and its consequences and make it fit with the main plot of the sequel?
You've seen how our choices (ME1 and ME2) were handled in ME3 and yet you want a ME4 taking all the dramatic, galactic changes that resulted from the red/blue/green ending into account?

Wake up.


I don't think its that hard really the Reapers and Synthetics are Dead/Missing

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GiarcYekrub wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

And say YES that we should import our endings (Destroy, Control, and Synthesis) to ME4 if it takes place after 3.

Not sure if serious...

Couldyou even imagine how incredibly difficult it would be to write a different scenario for each ending and its consequences and make it fit with the main plot of the sequel?
You've seen how our choices (ME1 and ME2) were handled in ME3 and yet you want a ME4 taking all the dramatic, galactic changes that resulted from the red/blue/green ending into account?

Wake up.


I don't think its that hard really the Reapers and Synthetics are Dead/Missing

Really? They're dead only in Destroy. Furthermore you're only considering the fate of the synthetics/reapers. What about the rest of the galaxy?

The galactic (political, military...) balance is fundamentally different between Destroy, Control and Synthesis. The outcome as well.

There are just too many variables (Synthesis and the place of the husks and the Reapers in the galaxy, the "new possibilities" offered by the green space magic , "paragon/renegade" Reapergod Shep, good/bad Destroy (Earth and the other planets hit by the red wave), Shep alive or not, Krogan cured or not, rebelling or following the galaxy rules, Geth alive or not, Leviathan messing with the galaxy again or not... just to mention some of them) to be integrated in one game. This just as premise and to give the background for ME4's story itself.

Be realistic, it's an impossible task.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 19 septembre 2012 - 02:36 .


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dble post.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 19 septembre 2012 - 02:27 .


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You guys are confusing me. Indoctrination theory is gonna end up being true. Whether you chose, Control, Synthesize, or Destroy I don't think it's going to matter since in Mass effect 4 Shepard's gonna be dead and you're going to have to recover his body from Earth or if he's alive you're gonna have to save him from the Reapers. I can't imagine a prequel to this series (yet) and I can't imagine it being set more than a couple years into the future, where if Bioware was smart they'd make the new main character completely customizable so there won't be any complaints.

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jplaydoh wrote...

You guys are confusing me. Indoctrination theory is gonna end up being true.


:happy:

Keep dreaming...

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jplaydoh wrote...

You guys are confusing me. Indoctrination theory is gonna end up being true. Whether you chose, Control, Synthesize, or Destroy I don't think it's going to matter since in Mass effect 4 Shepard's gonna be dead and you're going to have to recover his body from Earth or if he's alive you're gonna have to save him from the Reapers. I can't imagine a prequel to this series (yet) and I can't imagine it being set more than a couple years into the future, where if Bioware was smart they'd make the new main character completely customizable so there won't be any complaints.

Not that I hate the IT, on the contrary, but I'd love to know where your confidence came from...

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Versus Omnibus wrote...

And say YES that we should import our endings (Destroy, Control, and Synthesis) to ME4 if it takes place after 3.


IF EA actually gives them the time, I'm pretty sure they could incorporate your choice(s) from ME 3 into the next game without too much problem.  It would make for a huge undertaking definitly, but I Think they're up to it, provided EA keeps their nose out of it....

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Uncle Jo wrote...

jplaydoh wrote...

You guys are confusing me. Indoctrination theory is gonna end up being true. Whether you chose, Control, Synthesize, or Destroy I don't think it's going to matter since in Mass effect 4 Shepard's gonna be dead and you're going to have to recover his body from Earth or if he's alive you're gonna have to save him from the Reapers. I can't imagine a prequel to this series (yet) and I can't imagine it being set more than a couple years into the future, where if Bioware was smart they'd make the new main character completely customizable so there won't be any complaints.

Not that I hate the IT, on the contrary, but I'd love to know where your confidence came from...


Can't tell you top secret but i'll bet you 10,000 credits that's the way it will go.

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jplaydoh wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

jplaydoh wrote...

You guys are confusing me. Indoctrination theory is gonna end up being true. Whether you chose, Control, Synthesize, or Destroy I don't think it's going to matter since in Mass effect 4 Shepard's gonna be dead and you're going to have to recover his body from Earth or if he's alive you're gonna have to save him from the Reapers. I can't imagine a prequel to this series (yet) and I can't imagine it being set more than a couple years into the future, where if Bioware was smart they'd make the new main character completely customizable so there won't be any complaints.

Not that I hate the IT, on the contrary, but I'd love to know where your confidence came from...


Can't tell you top secret but i'll bet you 10,000 credits that's the way it will go.


So....I'm indoctrinated?:(

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It's likely Canon or any other game will be a prequel or sidequel....and we all know how well most of those turn out...

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jplaydoh wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

jplaydoh wrote...

You guys are confusing me. Indoctrination theory is gonna end up being true. Whether you chose, Control, Synthesize, or Destroy I don't think it's going to matter since in Mass effect 4 Shepard's gonna be dead and you're going to have to recover his body from Earth or if he's alive you're gonna have to save him from the Reapers. I can't imagine a prequel to this series (yet) and I can't imagine it being set more than a couple years into the future, where if Bioware was smart they'd make the new main character completely customizable so there won't be any complaints.

Not that I hate the IT, on the contrary, but I'd love to know where your confidence came from...


Can't tell you top secret but i'll bet you 10,000 credits that's the way it will go.

Okay.

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ATiBotka wrote...

jplaydoh wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

jplaydoh wrote...

You guys are confusing me. Indoctrination theory is gonna end up being true. Whether you chose, Control, Synthesize, or Destroy I don't think it's going to matter since in Mass effect 4 Shepard's gonna be dead and you're going to have to recover his body from Earth or if he's alive you're gonna have to save him from the Reapers. I can't imagine a prequel to this series (yet) and I can't imagine it being set more than a couple years into the future, where if Bioware was smart they'd make the new main character completely customizable so there won't be any complaints.

Not that I hate the IT, on the contrary, but I'd love to know where your confidence came from...


Can't tell you top secret but i'll bet you 10,000 credits that's the way it will go.


So....I'm indoctrinated?:(


Depends on what you chose;)

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I think the only way they could import from the current trilogy into ME4 is if ME4 was the last game. If they are planning multiple new games, then it will become WAAAAAYYYYYY too complicated to handle and they'll have to have a set canon starting, or maybe one which can be modified slightly (so everyone has to have Destroy, but you can have modifications on whether the Krogan are friendly cured krogans, angry cured krogans or angry uncured krogans, but geth are all dead after Destroying Synthetics etc).

I'm conflicted about whether I want an ME4 or not. ME3 was supposed to be this epic ending, and sometimes you should just learn to leave a universe alone and walk away. On the other hand, there's still so much that can be explored and its such a rich universe and I enjoyed the combat mechanics etc. Not a great fan of prequels, but setting it after ME3 is going to be a bit of a headache.

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jplaydoh wrote...

Depends on what you chose;)


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a canon ending will only emphasize biowares already apparent lack of foresight.

i dont understand what bioware is doing.

do they?

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Destroy ending should be canon. Its the easiest to write for and we can all pretend Star War 1,2 & 3 didn't happen... ;-)

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3 different games. Everybody´d happy :D

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BlueDemonX wrote...

3 different games. Everybody´d happy :D


Except refuse junkies.=]