Your opinion of EDI as a character
#126
Posté 22 août 2012 - 06:06
#127
Posté 22 août 2012 - 06:09
http://social.biowar...91/polls/38686/
Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 22 août 2012 - 06:16 .
#128
Posté 22 août 2012 - 06:11
#129
Posté 22 août 2012 - 06:13
And with a voice like Tricia Helfer... of course the body was gonna be attractive. What were you expecting? R2D2?
Modifié par Obvakhi, 22 août 2012 - 06:14 .
#130
Posté 22 août 2012 - 06:17
#131
Posté 22 août 2012 - 06:20
robertthebard wrote...
Hey look, a poll where maybe 500 people will respond, likely less, and we'll be like "Look, a definitive answer"...
Well, the original claim needed something to back it up. And it's not looking good for that claim.
#132
Posté 22 août 2012 - 07:36
In ME3, she's a cutesy robot intelligence with a major Pinocchio complex and seems like more of a mother figure for Joker than anything else (which is weird, considering Joker's acquired taste for EDI's cameltoe).
I also disliked her in ME3 because every scene with her that includes Jeff reminds me of how perverted my pilot is.
Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 22 août 2012 - 07:43 .
#133
Posté 22 août 2012 - 07:51
Her character design, though... argh. Just as with Miranda, the game made some half-hearted attempts at thoughtful commentary on appearances and objectification, but it really just looked like gratuitous T&A to me. Even though the OP asked for opinions on her character aside from her visual design, I think it's an integral part of video game characters and thus can't really ignore it.
Modifié par Aetheria, 22 août 2012 - 07:54 .
#134
Posté 22 août 2012 - 08:54
#135
Posté 22 août 2012 - 08:57
David7204 wrote...
It's crap. I love EDI.
#136
Posté 22 août 2012 - 09:01
#137
Posté 22 août 2012 - 10:59
#138
Posté 22 août 2012 - 11:01
#139
Posté 22 août 2012 - 11:07
RadicalDisconnect wrote...
robertthebard wrote...
Hey look, a poll where maybe 500 people will respond, likely less, and we'll be like "Look, a definitive answer"...
Well, the original claim needed something to back it up. And it's not looking good for that claim.
your also getting a lot of votes from people that weren't even around when the game first came out. there was a lot of hate for EDi and James back then. my original point was that EDi was a crappy character in ME3, and should have been replaced with an ME2 squad member. a large amount of people didn't like EDI in ME3. As your poll shows
Modifié par corkey sweet, 22 août 2012 - 11:13 .
#140
Posté 22 août 2012 - 11:11
corkey sweet wrote...
RadicalDisconnect wrote...
robertthebard wrote...
Hey look, a poll where maybe 500 people will respond, likely less, and we'll be like "Look, a definitive answer"...
Well, the original claim needed something to back it up. And it's not looking good for that claim.
your also getting a lot of votes from people that weren't even around when the game first came out. there was a lot of hate for EDi and James back then
It would help if you can link me to these hate threads.
#141
Posté 22 août 2012 - 11:12
RadicalDisconnect wrote...
corkey sweet wrote...
RadicalDisconnect wrote...
robertthebard wrote...
Hey look, a poll where maybe 500 people will respond, likely less, and we'll be like "Look, a definitive answer"...
Well, the original claim needed something to back it up. And it's not looking good for that claim.
your also getting a lot of votes from people that weren't even around when the game first came out. there was a lot of hate for EDi and James back then
It would help if you can link me to these hate threads.
i can't, i just remember seeing a lot of them back when the game first came out. however, more hate was aimed at James
Modifié par corkey sweet, 22 août 2012 - 11:14 .
#142
Posté 22 août 2012 - 11:36
I cannot for the life of me stand the abomination she became in 3. And no, it isn't entirely because of the body. It's her writing. Though the body may be a contributing factor to that, and I'll explain why.
She has an existential crisis in the game. Not out of the ordinary, it's a common trope, and tropes aren't inherently bad. But I don't see how they could have made it any more poorly written. Where subtlety is involved in questioning your existence, she face blank asks you to think for her. "Do you think your crew should disobey an order on moral grounds," or a personal favorite of mine, "What is the purpose of synthetic life?"
Bluntness is no excuse for bad writing. You could argue that she's almost like a child in her curiosity, but a child is going to ask you with the intention of mild curiosity, not to get philosophical answers. You only have to look to Mordin to see how an existential crisis should be written. Mordin's crisis puts EDI's to absolute shame.
Which brings me to my next point- they had a chance to give her an existential crisis WITHOUT giving her a body. It could've been unique, they could've made her a special character in science fiction. Instead, they gave her a body, and voila, you have every single existential crisis in science fiction ever. Standard "am I a real boy?" rather than something different, albeit a bit harder to write.
That's why I don't like her. Because she is the epitome of lazy writing.
#143
Posté 22 août 2012 - 11:38
#144
Posté 23 août 2012 - 12:23
#145
Posté 23 août 2012 - 12:34
Felspharr wrote...
Mass Effect 2 EDI was quirky, I did actually like her.
I cannot for the life of me stand the abomination she became in 3. And no, it isn't entirely because of the body. It's her writing. Though the body may be a contributing factor to that, and I'll explain why.
She has an existential crisis in the game. Not out of the ordinary, it's a common trope, and tropes aren't inherently bad. But I don't see how they could have made it any more poorly written. Where subtlety is involved in questioning your existence, she face blank asks you to think for her. "Do you think your crew should disobey an order on moral grounds," or a personal favorite of mine, "What is the purpose of synthetic life?"
Bluntness is no excuse for bad writing. You could argue that she's almost like a child in her curiosity, but a child is going to ask you with the intention of mild curiosity, not to get philosophical answers. You only have to look to Mordin to see how an existential crisis should be written. Mordin's crisis puts EDI's to absolute shame.
Which brings me to my next point- they had a chance to give her an existential crisis WITHOUT giving her a body. It could've been unique, they could've made her a special character in science fiction. Instead, they gave her a body, and voila, you have every single existential crisis in science fiction ever. Standard "am I a real boy?" rather than something different, albeit a bit harder to write.
That's why I don't like her. Because she is the epitome of lazy writing.
Fair enough. EDI's development and questions weren't exactly subtle, unlike Mordin and ME2 Legion. However, regardless of the bluntness, I thoroughly enjoyed her dialogue and perspective.
Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 23 août 2012 - 07:31 .
#146
Posté 23 août 2012 - 03:15
#147
Posté 23 août 2012 - 06:47
#148
Posté 23 août 2012 - 07:52
#149
Posté 23 août 2012 - 04:50
klarabella wrote...
Why is EDI female? She's an AI. Why is she female? Because her voice sounds female? Because she's using Dr. Eva's body?
Why is Joker so disrespectful to her?
Why does Kaidan of all people comment on her looks? The body almost killed him.
Sorry, EDI is alright ... but that aspect of her character just ruins everything.
EDI is female because they have her a female tone, her acronym is phonetically the same as a woman's name, and she dominated a robot that is a recreation of Eva Core, one of the original members of Cerberus.
Joker's attitude isn't so bad.
And you think Kaidan should be a jerk and hate EDI for something SHE didn't do? The body is a mobile platform. I'm sure Kaidan's been shot at, but does that mean he shouldn't ever want to use a gun in combat?
#150
Posté 23 août 2012 - 05:51





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