Hi everyone,
Okay, so recently ms merizan said that she and much of the writing staff like synthesis because it is 'inevitable'.
I disagree.
In this day and age, where we find treatments for the sick and can allow the disabled to lead almost normal lives, evolution has slowed right down. There is no survival of the fittest, there are no visible changes (our immune systems may become more advanced, but this is far from what synthesis entails)
Now imagine what everything would be like 250 years in the future. Cures for cancer, aids, who knows what.
How would synthesis occur?
What 'benefit' do the glowing green eyes, for example, provide to a race that allows them to outclass others?
I would also say that the whole idea of evolution is that one group evolves to outclass another, and to survive better in their respective environment. In this way, it seems a bit odd to expect every race in the galaxy to be at exactly the same stage of synthesis at exactly the same time, providing shepard does not choose synthesis in the end of me3.
And so, I ask you; Please do not make synthesis in every new mass effect game. Please. There is no reason it would happen if shepard does not choose it.
(Not to mention that if synthesis makes everyone immortal, the galaxy would be empty of resources withing a couple thousand of years, but that's another stroy)
Ms Merizan, I respectfully disagree: I do not think synthesis is inevitable.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:34
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woo! this dead horse again.
I really wish someone would stop her using twitter.
I really wish someone would stop her using twitter.
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DinoSteve wrote...
woo! this dead horse again.
I cant help it.
The horse is so enticing
EDIT: Oh, and this isn't from her twitter IIRC; it is from gamescom
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:37
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Well stop her talking to anyone about mass effect then.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:38
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DinoSteve wrote...
Well stop her talking to anyone about mass effect then.
Likewise...
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:39
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Okay, you disagree with her interpretation of an open ending, good to see your excersising your free will to do so.
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xsdob wrote...
Okay, you disagree with her interpretation of an open ending, good to see your excersising your free will to do so.
Most of the topcs here are about opinion.
I am just as free to express said opinion as you, or anyone else on these forums
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:41
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But honestly, it would make sense. The Reapers prophersize synthetics would destroy organics. Maybe after the Reapers were defeated, people got smarter, or simply took that warning.
So organics improve themselves by synthesize themselves, while synthetics, wanting a better understanding of life, make themselves organics.
If you think about it, it's really the only way forward.
But I honestly don't really care which ending is canon. Introducing a bigger bad guy (Ooh! Ask me!) instead of fighting "Upgraded Reapers" would be a nice change.
So organics improve themselves by synthesize themselves, while synthetics, wanting a better understanding of life, make themselves organics.
If you think about it, it's really the only way forward.
But I honestly don't really care which ending is canon. Introducing a bigger bad guy (Ooh! Ask me!) instead of fighting "Upgraded Reapers" would be a nice change.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:42
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Hi Flog, I'd agree with you, but you can't question their art. The integrity is too powerful.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:43
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How can it be open ended if synthesis is presented as the best open by far?xsdob wrote...
Okay, you disagree with her interpretation of an open ending, good to see your excersising your free will to do so.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:43
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It's funny they think it's inevitable when they don't even know how it works.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:43
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Today was a pretty Synthesis day on the boards, so this topic is appropriate.
I'd like to agree, but the writers seem to think its inevitable, and since it's their world, their rules.
I'd like to agree, but the writers seem to think its inevitable, and since it's their world, their rules.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:43
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funny that's the exact same thing saren said, "it is inevitable" oh the irony!
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:43
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Their universe, their rules.
Synthesis is seen as the best ending by the team because they feel it is inevitable (in Mass Effect), and any future game that is set after the events of ME3 will be in a galaxy where synthesis has occurred (either because Shepard chose it or because it happened some other way).
This was not Twitter. This is something she said in a conversation at Gamescom.DinoSteve wrote...
I really wish someone would stop her using twitter.
Synthesis is seen as the best ending by the team because they feel it is inevitable (in Mass Effect), and any future game that is set after the events of ME3 will be in a galaxy where synthesis has occurred (either because Shepard chose it or because it happened some other way).
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D24O wrote...
Today was a pretty Synthesis day on the boards, so this topic is appropriate.
I'd like to agree, but the writers seem to think its inevitable, and since it's their world, their rules.
Indeed it was, did the Synthesis Compendium get locked or something? Who let the dogs out? Was it you, Snoop?
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:44
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Flog61 wrote...
xsdob wrote...
Okay, you disagree with her interpretation of an open ending, good to see your excersising your free will to do so.
Most of the topcs here are about opinion.
I am just as free to express said opinion as you, or anyone else on these forums
As is your right and duty in a society that promotes free thinking, It just seemed like overkill to me, and that's just in my opinion that I felt like expressing anyway.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:45
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comrade gando wrote...
funny that's the exact same thing saren said, "it is inevitable" oh the irony!
So, Saren and Timmy were BOTH right after all.
You're right about the irony. Shepard is just derp-derp for trying to stop the Reapers. Looks like the antagonists get the last laugh.
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Conniving_Eagle wrote...
Indeed it was, did the Synthesis Compendium get locked or something? Who let the dogs out? Was it you, Snoop?
Srs? I don't keep an eye on it, so I wouldn't know.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:46
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Epic777 wrote...
How can it be open ended if synthesis is presented as the best open by far?xsdob wrote...
Okay, you disagree with her interpretation of an open ending, good to see your excersising your free will to do so.
You'll have to explain that one to me, because so far it seems like it's presented pretty badly.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:47
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devSin wrote...
Their universe, their rules.This was not Twitter. This is something she said in a conversation at Gamescom.DinoSteve wrote...
I really wish someone would stop her using twitter.
Synthesis is seen as the best ending by the team because they feel it is inevitable (in Mass Effect), and any future game that is set after the events of ME3 will be in a galaxy where synthesis has occurred (either because Shepard chose it or because it happened some other way).
Too late, someone already called me on it. I do really wish she'd shut up though, when she speaks BSN tears it self apart.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:48
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That Guy From YouTube made a pretty good post today about what is wrong with synthesis.
Synthesis is described as "the pinnacle of evolution". But that statement is in conflict with itself, because contradicts just what evolution is.
All that Synthesis will do is lead to cultural and technological stagnation. Mordin would probably say that it would make us no better than the Collectors.
Synthesis is described as "the pinnacle of evolution". But that statement is in conflict with itself, because contradicts just what evolution is.
All that Synthesis will do is lead to cultural and technological stagnation. Mordin would probably say that it would make us no better than the Collectors.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:49
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No, its still open Eagle. I just checked. Or was that a joke?
I'm starting to think that was a joke.
I'm starting to think that was a joke.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:49
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xsdob wrote...
Epic777 wrote...
How can it be open ended if synthesis is presented as the best open by far?xsdob wrote...
Okay, you disagree with her interpretation of an open ending, good to see your excersising your free will to do so.
You'll have to explain that one to me, because so far it seems like it's presented pretty badly.
Apart from losing Shepard, what is the down side? The reapers help rebuild, and everything is great. They are quickly surpassing anything they did before and may even surpass life and death. This solution the
game practically begs you to chose. No more synthetic/organic problems, everything is cool.
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:50
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Conniving_Eagle wrote...
That Guy From YouTube made a pretty good post today about what is wrong with synthesis.
Synthesis is described as "the pinnacle of evolution". But that statement is in conflict with itself, because contradicts just what evolution is.
All that Synthesis will do is lead to cultural and technological stagnation. Mordin would probably say that it would make us no better than the Collectors.
What guy? Link, I would like to watch this. ( I just like watching ME3 talks.)
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Posté 22 août 2012 - 01:52
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Epic777 wrote...
Apart from losing Shepard, what is the down side? The reapers help rebuild, and everything is great. They are quickly surpassing anything they did before and may even surpass life and death. This solution the
game practically begs you to chose. No more synthetic/organic problems, everything is cool.
Okay.
