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[Conniving_Eagle]

Flog61 wrote...

Bump

Shameless self-promotion, eh?

[wright1978]

Agree with OP synthesis is in no way inevitable and it really sticks in my throat that anybody would be silly enough to try and suggest forcing 3 radically different endings back into one.

Now i chose destroy and that pretty much leaves a diverse galaxy free to evolve as it wishes. Diverse things don't tend to go in the same direction. So while some may end up somewhere down the transhumanism line others would just as likely completely rebel against this development. Whatever the end makeup it won't be the uniform green idiocy of the starbrat's artificial synthesis.

[Jadebaby]

Maybe she meant it was inevitable that they had to tackle the age-old sci-fi theme of synthetic vs organic. So to put it to rest they make synthesis. Then for future games they will never EVER have to tackle synthetic vs organic themes again.

[CroGamer002]

Someone really needs to make Bioware staff to sit back and to teach that how evolution REALLY works.

[LadieGamer]

If I was some jane doe who happened to be lucky enough to still survive all that crap. I would be like nice Shepard thanks. I won't get sick, I might be able to lift crap now. I won't be so damn useless when a family member moves and I have to listen to everyone tell me how useless I am (jokingly of course). Here's one for the all guys out there, that time of the month, done. Us ladies got tech running through us, Tali said the Geth could help make them healthy. Who's to say this new "tech" in us won't release all kinds of good stuff to help us ladies be calm and mellow. And ladies, you know that tech has painkillers. AMEN! 

But if that isn't enough for you then I leave you with this. Synthesis is good why? Because I believe in a little boy robot who was not evil. He loved his "Father", his "Sister" and he naturally cared about the people, places, the world and yes even sometimes space. That little robot AI was Astro Boy and that's why I pick Synthesis (when playing Paragon).

Modifié par LadieGamer, 22 août 2012 - 08:09 .

[Isichar]

Mesina2 wrote...

Someone really needs to make Bioware staff to sit back and to teach that how evolution REALLY works.

With of course

[Jadebaby]

Sorry LadieGamer, but painkillers already exist.

You do raise an interesting point though lol. But still, it's not the idea that there wouldn't be benefits of synthesis, but at the end of the day, to unknowingly force such a irreversable decision on the entire galaxy, that's just wrong.

[Porenferser]

So Bioware IS indonctrinated.
But seriously, I'd rather die than become synthesized.

Collective Species?
Forced Peace?
No thanks.

[ShepnTali]

Say NO to Ms Merizan.

[elegolas1]

Was any explanation given as to why she thinks synthesis is inevitable? Or did she just give a vague statement which means nothing?

[LadieGamer]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Sorry LadieGamer, but painkillers already exist.

You do raise an interesting point though lol. But still, it's not the idea that there wouldn't be benefits of synthesis, but at the end of the day, to unknowingly force such a irreversable decision on the entire galaxy, that's just wrong.

Well of course there are but you gotta take them and wait for them to kick in. That could take up to 20 mins and I'm not sure if you're male of female but sometimes they're so bad we throw up or we can't walk (Yep, I wen there). Synthesis would be instant relief.

It may be wrong to you but it's not wrong to me. I would gladly welcome Synthesis over being turned into goop. I would welcome it because then we would all be on the same wave length, no figthing, no stupid bs so someone can get rich of off someone else. People with mental illness would live better lives and we'd all be at peace. Is Utopia in a Universe like ME so bad? or is it because there can only be one Utopia and you have to die to get there.:innocent:

Modifié par LadieGamer, 22 août 2012 - 08:51 .

[Hrothdane]

LadieGamer wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Sorry LadieGamer, but painkillers already exist.

You do raise an interesting point though lol. But still, it's not the idea that there wouldn't be benefits of synthesis, but at the end of the day, to unknowingly force such a irreversable decision on the entire galaxy, that's just wrong.

Well of course there are but you gotta take them and wait for them to kick in, that could take up to 20 mins and I'm not sure if you're male of female but sometimes they're so bad we throw up, we can't walk (Yep, I wen there). Synthesis would be instant reliefe.  Oh yeah I went there.

It may be wrong to you but it's not wrong to me. I would gladly welcome Synthesis over being turned into goop. I would welcome it because then we would all be on the same wave length, no figthing, no stupid bs so someone can get rich of off someone else. We're a peace. Is Utopia in a Universe like ME so bad? or is it because there can only be one Utopia and you have to die to get there.:innocent:

Peace between organics and synthetics? Maybe. Peace between hybrids and other hybrids? I wouldn't be so sure. The fact that all of us are human hasn't stopped us from making war with each other.

[LadieGamer]

Hrothdane wrote...

LadieGamer wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Sorry LadieGamer, but painkillers already exist.

You do raise an interesting point though lol. But still, it's not the idea that there wouldn't be benefits of synthesis, but at the end of the day, to unknowingly force such a irreversable decision on the entire galaxy, that's just wrong.

Well of course there are but you gotta take them and wait for them to kick in, that could take up to 20 mins and I'm not sure if you're male of female but sometimes they're so bad we throw up, we can't walk (Yep, I wen there). Synthesis would be instant reliefe.  Oh yeah I went there.

It may be wrong to you but it's not wrong to me. I would gladly welcome Synthesis over being turned into goop. I would welcome it because then we would all be on the same wave length, no figthing, no stupid bs so someone can get rich of off someone else. We're a peace. Is Utopia in a Universe like ME so bad? or is it because there can only be one Utopia and you have to die to get there.:innocent:

Peace between organics and synthetics? Maybe. Peace between hybrids and other hybrids? I wouldn't be so sure. The fact that all of us are human hasn't stopped us from making war with each other.

What does that have to do with anything? There are more than just humans in the ME universe and if I understand it right, we understand them and what they are about as well. "With understanding comes knowledge."  We have wars now because humanity is greedy and selfish, plus half are VERY closed minded. The human's are still all Hoorah in ME but they're not what we are today. So you can't use our humanity as an example against Synthesis.

:happy:

Modifié par LadieGamer, 22 août 2012 - 08:58 .

[dorktainian]

Synthesis.

I would so like to be merged with my fridge and toaster. just think Toast on the go - and always somewhere to put the butter.

Seriously tho. The only thing synthesis would result in is stagnation. The reapers deserve to be blown to hell - as does star kid. It's been the point of the game right up till the bizarre ending.

[Rustedness]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Maybe she meant it was inevitable that they had to tackle the age-old sci-fi theme of synthetic vs organic. So to put it to rest they make synthesis. Then for future games they will never EVER have to tackle synthetic vs organic themes again.

I might just be weird here, but I never really saw a synthesis vs organic theme in the series until Starchild said it was so. I just saw different species *shrug*

[Eterna]

I don't know how you can disagree and say the writers who write the series are wrong.

If they say it's inevitable then it's inevitable. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 22 août 2012 - 09:19 .

[jstme]

If we survive long enough we will become machines,with no biological trace left. This is indeed inevitable.
However the only reasons for declaration that synthesis is inevitable for future of ME universe are deep desire to not make any more games connected to it or deep desire to allow for more upgradable slots in future MMO characters.
No other reason.

[SnakeSNMF]

Look, if every civillization based itself off of it's technology and then having it lead to a singularity, then civillizations like it would be at the apex and touch every part of the galaxy as we know it, and be near it. We would have much more evidence to prove for life itself, and we've seen no traces of it. It's very possible that civllizations that reach into space, never become true AI, but it is a necessary tool in their daily lives and how they handle things.

Synthesis is inevitable in arged technological singularities due to mathematics that may apply to reality and based on the assumption that we will all conform to one major system.

Humanity has been presented with ethics and personal morality to intrude onto the preventation of a possible singularity itself. Even if it was possible-- Which, y'know-- It is. It won't happen due so many prevailing point of views on how things work, overall paranoia, and general thinking. I would love for it to work, but it doesn't make sense as it appears in reality.

A synthesis is not the logical point of life, it is not the proper conclusion, it does not settle things. Synthesis ending for ME3 itself contradicts what we've been attempting to do the entire game. Bioware forgot that.

But, okay.

[IElitePredatorI]

Hrothdane wrote...

LadieGamer wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Sorry LadieGamer, but painkillers already exist.

You do raise an interesting point though lol. But still, it's not the idea that there wouldn't be benefits of synthesis, but at the end of the day, to unknowingly force such a irreversable decision on the entire galaxy, that's just wrong.

Well of course there are but you gotta take them and wait for them to kick in, that could take up to 20 mins and I'm not sure if you're male of female but sometimes they're so bad we throw up, we can't walk (Yep, I wen there). Synthesis would be instant reliefe.  Oh yeah I went there.

It may be wrong to you but it's not wrong to me. I would gladly welcome Synthesis over being turned into goop. I would welcome it because then we would all be on the same wave length, no figthing, no stupid bs so someone can get rich of off someone else. We're a peace. Is Utopia in a Universe like ME so bad? or is it because there can only be one Utopia and you have to die to get there.:innocent:

Peace between organics and synthetics? Maybe. Peace between hybrids and other hybrids? I wouldn't be so sure. The fact that all of us are human hasn't stopped us from making war with each other.

Very true indeed. Just because the Catalyst promises peace between Organics and Synthetics doesn't mean it would happen just because everyone is 'merged' to make a new form of life.

[The Heretic of Time]

I disagree OP. After having played Deus Ex: Human Revolution and after having seen a couple of documentaries about real-life "synthesis" (humans augmented with synthetic components), I believe that synthesis indeed is inevitable.

Don't get me wrong, I hate the synthesis ending for many reasons, but the idea that we eventually will use our advanced technology to enhance, upgrade and/or fix our body is inevitable.

The idea however, that this "synthesis" will stop war between organics and synthetics (and war among organics themselves) is completely silly though. One does only have to look at Deus Ex (1 & 2) to see that the augmented humans still fight amongst each other.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 22 août 2012 - 09:59 .

[Rustedness]

Wonder what the Amish would make of Synthesis.

[EnvyTB075]

So i guess this really does confirm that BioWare also copied Deus Ex's thematics as well as the ending? I'm sorry, but after ME1 and ME2, i simply don't believe the entire development team at BioWare had an epiphany all at the same time and thought they were doing something "fresh" with this whole synthesis crap.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 22 août 2012 - 09:50 .

[BigBadMammogram]

We've all known that for a while