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[Shadohz]

Let's face it, there are specific characters that are chosen higher challenge levels. In some cases, picking a niche character will get you kicked from a MP lobby (even with a high N7 level and appropiate gears).

I propose the creation of 'customizable class characters'. Here's how it would work:
1. You are given a 'blank' character.
2. You can select ANY race you want.
3. The character itself would be class-specific (engineer, soldier, etc).
4. You are allowed ANY of the existing power or skillsets from the given class (i.e. you can't make a soldier using engineering skills).
5. The character is still limited to 83 bonus points (however reducing the points to say 80 may be necessity, due to the potential of creating OP characters. Google "character balancing").
6. The characters should NOT be pack-driven but based on N7 rating. In other words, don't randomize its ability to be gained from store packs. Release a new character option once every, say, 500 N7 levels that's been obtained. This should encourage the continuned playing of ME3 MP, may attract back some former players, at the same time giving loyal players an additional benefit for their hard work.
7. The custom character MAY (emphasis on the word 'may') require its on unique (and weaker) base health, shield/barrier. Let's be honest, why customize with any race but a Krogran? This would encourage players to select their 'favorite' race not the 'favored' race. 
8. This custom character could be billed as 'Specialist' race. At the very least it would quiet naysayers who bring up "inconsistancies" such as an "adept/quarian".

For those of you who may ask or comment "Why not fully-customizable instead of class-specific". It is not fitting with original SPM or MP options with current or past ME games. I had considered that as an option at one point, though.

Leave your comments.

Thanks,

Shadohz

[Shadohz]

bump

[neoskeptic2]

I'd rather have a point system assigned for each power. Warp is worth a certain number of points so it's impossible to buy both warp and reave for example.

But really, I don't like the idea simply because of min-maxers who will just abuse the system and leave all the other existing classes gathering dust.

[Captain J. Sunshine]

I read it. I didn't understand it. Consider this a free bump.

[Shadohz]

neoskeptic2 wrote...

I'd rather have a point system assigned for each power. Warp is worth a certain number of points so it's impossible to buy both warp and reave for example.

But really, I don't like the idea simply because of min-maxers who will just abuse the system and leave all the other existing classes gathering dust.

A point system is a good idea, but there's something you must know about developers (or development in generally) is that adding adding a new system to an existing system increases the likelihood of bugs. Min-maxers wouldn't be a problem. As I suggested the custom classes could be scaled down a bit in comparison to existing character sets. Besides the items I've already mentioned, this could include taking say an overall 10% penalty to all tech, biotic and base powers. This would encourage players to still use the existing character sets while having fun with the customized ones.

[mikepaul]

If I can't have what I want, like a Destroyer with a decoy instead of the missile launcher, then I won't use it.

If it kills more enemies than somebody else's custom character, they'll demand it be nerfed...

[V_Davion]

I'd make an Asari with Reave, Throw and Annihilation Field

[Philosophy954]

Not a bad idea, OP. However, such a drastic change would probably be saved for another Mass Effect game that is, perhaps, exclusively multiplayer since the story is already finished.

[Shadohz]

Captain J. Sunshine wrote...

I read it. I didn't understand it. Consider this a free bump.

In simpler terms, you could get 6 new characters, one for each class. You can take this uncustomized character, say an engineer, and use any of the existing engineer powers (incin, ovrld, drone, cryo, sentry trrt, decoy, drain, huntmode, gethtrrt, scan, arc, hming grn, pylon). 

You essentially pick your own race and pick your own powers, but you are still limited to the classes (sent, engin, infilt, etc) 

[NOD-INFORMER37]

I support this idea, but it'd be a little weird for some powers.

Imagine having a human engi using geth hunter mode or a turian sentinel sporting the vorcha's bloodlust. :S

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 23 août 2012 - 01:53 .

[Shadohz]

Philosophy954 wrote...

Not a bad idea, OP. However, such a drastic change would probably be saved for another Mass Effect game that is, perhaps, exclusively multiplayer since the story is already finished.

Phil this enhancement is strictly for MP (as per the title). The characters wouldn't be OP, as they would be pre-nerfed (debuffed) from the get-go. I had already taken that into consideration before writing the thread. However alternate ideas to balancing the characters are always welcomed. thanks for your input.

[Heggy]

I think race specific powers should remain race specific, like geth turret/hunter mode. Also, you could then just build a demolisher who has the quarian male's arc grenades.

Using the suggested point system, what you could do is allow a certain amount of points to contribute to the base shields and health, say, a point per 100.

Also, I've been thinking about it, and I can't think of anyway to make the Geth Infiltrator stronger given any number of ability choices from the infiltrator class. If you could get Marksman onto an infiltrator, it would be the end of days for whatever gets in the way of that class, probably why people want the turian infiltrator.

[Lamiaaa]

it would be best balanced as such

1. unchangeable class or race-specific power (such as cloak, charge, adrenaline rush, hunter mode, etc)
2. pick between a few strong powers based on class aptitude (like warp, energy drain, carnage and the like)
3. pick a lesser power or grenade (concussive shot, cryo blast, pull, etc)

that is how I'd like to see it anyway

Modifié par Lamiaaa, 23 août 2012 - 02:04 .

[Shadohz]

Flog61 wrote...

You could make someone too powerful.

Like geth with hunter mode + tactical cloak + energy drain

There's that or you can look at it another way. It gives teams more expandable options against Cerb, Geth and Reap. Teams could sit down and strategize four different setups to take on U/U/P or U/U/G. Most players I see only farm Gold/Platinum.

Overall its intended to spur players creativity and having fun. That's why you bought the game.

[Shadohz]

Excellent feedback guys. Keep em coming. thanks.

[dysturbed0ne]

A lot of the powers are race specific and wouldn't make sense on other characters. I guess this is good just to have fun with and create discussion, but I don't see BW ever implementing anything like this, and definitely not in this MP.

[Shadohz]

dysturbed0ne wrote...

A lot of the powers are race specific and wouldn't make sense on other characters. I guess this is good just to have fun with and create discussion, but I don't see BW ever implementing anything like this, and definitely not in this MP.

True, but let's not forget things we learned and experienced from the game... assimilation. The Geth and Reapers often times assimilated technology from other races. Cerebus was all about assimilation. The races in the galaxy as a whole shared technology. Biotics used implants. Some things were naturally occuring, others artificially influenced.  It can be balanced on a 'race-specific' level at the same time there is room for argument that open-ended use is viable (and explainable).

[EvilGeth]

Missile Launcher + Tac Scan + Phase Disrupter, make it red and gold and name it Iron Man :B

[Pedactor]

Destroyer with Adrenaline rush instead of Missile Launcher.

Drellguard with Reave instead of Pull.

[Iezza]

 GETH SENTINEL NAO

[Heggy]

How about you have a separate lobby where the custom classes play and people can compete with their custom classes for reduced credits so that it's all about the fun.