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[AbhijitSM]

Ok...here is the video with a Typhoon X :

My setup is as follows :
Devastator mode is specced for 30% weapon damage , ROF & accuracy bonuses
T5-V battlesuit all specced for weapon damage - 27.50%
Consumbles/Gear used : AP ammo 3 , Assault rifle rail amp 3 , Assault rifle amp gear V

Edit : looks like there is some issue with the enhancements. Let me fix it.

Edit 2 : I will have to re-upload it seems. Looks like the video is out of focus.

Modifié par AbhijitSM, 23 août 2012 - 07:15 .

[AbhijitSM]

Rokayt wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

I am not too good at numbers but the typhoon can still kill a gold atlas atleast in a single clip. I have a video with that. I dunno about platinum though.

edit : this only works with AP ammo for some weird reason. With other ammo it just doesn't work.

Could you link it?  I have been trying to get a video myself.  Also AP ammo is not supposed to work with Typhoon?????

Edit: please include your set-up.

I am uploading it now as i just played the match. Will be up in 20-30 mins. I will include my setup with it. Sorry i dont have a good connection

Thanks, I know its a lot of work to capture, edit, upload.  I'm interested because I have not been able to take out a Gold atlas in one clip so far ( tried twice this weekend and one match last night ).  Its hard to get an example where your are the only one shooting at it, lol.

Yep...i had to make multiple attempts to get a atlas all for myself:P. I actually had success capturing 2-3 clips where i managed to kill it all by myself. Uploading the best possible one.

Do you mind letting me make a thread over this video clip?

Err...what are you going to say thru this thread ? Just asking

[Rokayt]

AbhijitSM wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

I am not too good at numbers but the typhoon can still kill a gold atlas atleast in a single clip. I have a video with that. I dunno about platinum though.

edit : this only works with AP ammo for some weird reason. With other ammo it just doesn't work.

Could you link it?  I have been trying to get a video myself.  Also AP ammo is not supposed to work with Typhoon?????

Edit: please include your set-up.

I am uploading it now as i just played the match. Will be up in 20-30 mins. I will include my setup with it. Sorry i dont have a good connection

Thanks, I know its a lot of work to capture, edit, upload.  I'm interested because I have not been able to take out a Gold atlas in one clip so far ( tried twice this weekend and one match last night ).  Its hard to get an example where your are the only one shooting at it, lol.

Yep...i had to make multiple attempts to get a atlas all for myself:P. I actually had success capturing 2-3 clips where i managed to kill it all by myself. Uploading the best possible one.

Do you mind letting me make a thread over this video clip?

Err...what are you going to say thru this thread ? Just asking

Say that the Typhoon can 1 mag an atlas.


Also: A miscellainious fact: Apparantly the Atlasses hull is hollow, which causes AP rounds to cause shots to hit the atlas twice when fired at the window on it.

This news was all the heat back when I used the Raptor.

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 07:09 .

[AbhijitSM]

Rokayt wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

I am not too good at numbers but the typhoon can still kill a gold atlas atleast in a single clip. I have a video with that. I dunno about platinum though.

edit : this only works with AP ammo for some weird reason. With other ammo it just doesn't work.

Could you link it?  I have been trying to get a video myself.  Also AP ammo is not supposed to work with Typhoon?????

Edit: please include your set-up.

I am uploading it now as i just played the match. Will be up in 20-30 mins. I will include my setup with it. Sorry i dont have a good connection

Thanks, I know its a lot of work to capture, edit, upload.  I'm interested because I have not been able to take out a Gold atlas in one clip so far ( tried twice this weekend and one match last night ).  Its hard to get an example where your are the only one shooting at it, lol.

Yep...i had to make multiple attempts to get a atlas all for myself:P. I actually had success capturing 2-3 clips where i managed to kill it all by myself. Uploading the best possible one.

Do you mind letting me make a thread over this video clip?

Err...what are you going to say thru this thread ? Just asking

Say that the Typhoon can 1 mag an atlas.


Also: A miscellainious fact: Apparantly the Atlasses hull is hollow, which causes AP rounds to cause shots to hit the atlas twice when fired at the window on it.

This news was all the heat back when I used the Raptor.

Ok...i think i need to fix that video first.

[ryoldschool]

AbhijitSM wrote...

Ok...here is the video with a Typhoon X :  

My setup is as follows :
Devastator mode is specced for 30% weapon damage , ROF & accuracy bonuses
T5-V battlesuit all specced for weapon damage - 27.50%
Consumbles/Gear used : AP ammo 3 , Assault rifle rail amp 3 , Assault rifle amp gear V

Edit : looks like there is some issue with the enhancements. Let me fix it.

What on the gun itself, we can't see the ammo count.  AP + Magazine Size?

[Rokayt]

ryoldschool wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

Ok...here is the video with a Typhoon X :  

My setup is as follows :
Devastator mode is specced for 30% weapon damage , ROF & accuracy bonuses
T5-V battlesuit all specced for weapon damage - 27.50%
Consumbles/Gear used : AP ammo 3 , Assault rifle rail amp 3 , Assault rifle amp gear V

Edit : looks like there is some issue with the enhancements. Let me fix it.

What on the gun itself, we can't see the ammo count.  AP + Magazine Size?

With the on gun magazine upgrade, and the destroyers ammo perk from devestator, as he has stated it...

He is getting  +115% mag size....

So 214 rounds.

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 07:13 .

[Pedactor]

Geth Platforms wrote...

and bioware say it still a very powerful gun, so they are saying 'this glitch gun still are great on bronze"

This is stupid because the PPR shares the same niche, is lighter, and of course, infinite ammo.

The Typhoon, pre-nerf, shredded mooks better than the Revenant X, even at I.  It no longer shreds mooks acceptably.

At least on the Cooldownless Krogan or Destroyer you would use the Typhoon on.

Harrier is more useful on the Krogan, Revenant on the Destroyer, as mook killers.

[TMB903]

Thanks to those taking the time to research the numbers on this gun and test it...Its too bad this gun has so many issues because it is indeed a very fun(and cool) weapon

[AbhijitSM]

ryoldschool wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

Ok...here is the video with a Typhoon X :  

My setup is as follows :
Devastator mode is specced for 30% weapon damage , ROF & accuracy bonuses
T5-V battlesuit all specced for weapon damage - 27.50%
Consumbles/Gear used : AP ammo 3 , Assault rifle rail amp 3 , Assault rifle amp gear V

Edit : looks like there is some issue with the enhancements. Let me fix it.

What on the gun itself, we can't see the ammo count.  AP + Magazine Size?

Yes...theres an issue with the upload:(. I am re-uploading now.

[Rokayt]

Should I take note that the fastest atlas slaying I have ever seen a GI pull off on video was 10 seconds, and this destroyer footage shows one going down in a little over 8 seconds?

AbhijitSM wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

Ok...here is the video with a Typhoon X :  

My setup is as follows :
Devastator mode is specced for 30% weapon damage , ROF & accuracy bonuses
T5-V battlesuit all specced for weapon damage - 27.50%
Consumbles/Gear used : AP ammo 3 , Assault rifle rail amp 3 , Assault rifle amp gear V

Edit : looks like there is some issue with the enhancements. Let me fix it.

What on the gun itself, we can't see the ammo count.  AP + Magazine Size?

Yes...theres an issue with the upload[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]. I am re-uploading now.

No biggie.
I will be patient.

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 07:19 .

[Gamemako]

The video I saw was 134 rounds. Must be barrel+AP? Maybe barrel+stability? Certainly not ammo mod.

Definitely have to run the math on this...

[Arppis]

I knew I was right to use the AP mod.

[AbhijitSM]

Rokayt wrote...

Should I take note that the fastest atlas slaying I have ever seen a GI pull off on video was 10 seconds, and this destroyer footage shows one going down in a little over 8 seconds?

It might not be even 8 secs. And the clip size is 134 as i am using stability mod + Extended barrel.

[Rokayt]

AbhijitSM wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Should I take note that the fastest atlas slaying I have ever seen a GI pull off on video was 10 seconds, and this destroyer footage shows one going down in a little over 8 seconds?

It might not be even 8 secs. And the clip size is 134 as i am using stability mod + Extended barrel.

No. I just re timed it.

That was 6 seconds.

Which, is naturally,  super badass.

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 07:21 .

[ryoldschool]

AbhijitSM wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Should I take note that the fastest atlas slaying I have ever seen a GI pull off on video was 10 seconds, and this destroyer footage shows one going down in a little over 8 seconds?

It might not be even 8 secs. And the clip size is 134 as i am using stability mod + Extended barrel.

This kind of says that increasing the damage is more important than DR.   It known that AP ammo does not work with the Typhoon, so this performance is done by the EB and the AR Rail 3 and AR gear?

[Gamemako]

1.575 core
0.25 barrel
0.3 amp
0.15 gear
0.3 ammo power

2.275 additive

unbuffed shield damage: 189.39375 (190 rounded up)
first 5: ~950
buffed shield damage: 284.090625 (285 rounded up)
double-hit rounds to break: 40.350877192982456140350877192982

25 shots remaining, ignore armor DR entirely

per-shot damage: 2.275*1.5*55.5*1.5 + 0.3*1.5*55.5 = 309.065625
total damage (double hits): 15453.28125
armor: 21094

Not enough to kill? Did I make a math error somewhere? Triple-hits, maybe? Shield damage being rounded up multiple times?

//EDIT:

ryoldschool wrote...

This kind of says that increasing the damage is more important than DR. It known that AP ammo does not work with the Typhoon, so this performance is done by the EB and the AR Rail 3 and AR gear?

The armor DR reduction may not work, at least on AP ammo IV. The bonus damage does work.

Modifié par Gamemako, 23 août 2012 - 07:27 .

[Rokayt]

ryoldschool wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Should I take note that the fastest atlas slaying I have ever seen a GI pull off on video was 10 seconds, and this destroyer footage shows one going down in a little over 8 seconds?

It might not be even 8 secs. And the clip size is 134 as i am using stability mod + Extended barrel.

This kind of says that increasing the damage is more important than DR.   It known that AP ammo does not work with the Typhoon, so this performance is done by the EB and the AR Rail 3 and AR gear?

I told you in our PM converstation that EB would give a larger bonus then the AP mod anyhow.
That is, Without the glitch you told me about.

[Gamemako]

Rokayt wrote...

I told you in our PM converstation that EB would give a larger bonus then the AP mod anyhow.
That is, Without the glitch you told me about.

Uh... no? EB after ramp-up is worth 20.8125 damage. AP reduces armor reduction by 32.5. Both are then multiplied by 1.5x protection bonus (post-DR).

[Rokayt]

Gamemako wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

I told you in our PM converstation that EB would give a larger bonus then the AP mod anyhow.
That is, Without the glitch you told me about.

Uh... no? EB after ramp-up is worth 20.8125 damage. AP reduces armor reduction by 32.5. Both are then multiplied by 1.5x protection bonus (post-DR).

Half of what you are shooting is shields.
20 damage for every shot, or 32.5 damage for HALF of them?

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 07:34 .

[peddroelm]

Rokayt wrote...

t EB would give a larger bonus then the AP mod anyhow.
That is, Without the glitch you told me about.

Wrong ..

Even for fully charged typhoon X 55.5 * 1.5 * 0.25 < 50*0.65

55.5 * 1.5 * 0.25 = 20.8125
50 * 0.65 = 32.5

Typhoon's base damage is so low that AP mod will give better damage vs armor than EB 25% extra damage (assuming no other armor weakening//piercing are in use ) ..

[Gamemako]

Rokayt wrote...

Half of what you are shooting is shields.
20 damage for every shot, or 32.5 damage for HALF of them?

Devil's bargin. Hardest thing to break is armor, and armor will take more than half of your time, especially on Platinum. Too many tools good for ripping up shields and barriers.

Hardly matters, anyway. I'm still not volunteering for the AP mod unless it turns out it's bugged and giving triple or quadruple hits.

[Rokayt]

I calculated bullets to kill, not damage per bullet against armor.
Both the shields, and the armor got their own calculations.

In the end EB gave a better total bonus then the AP mod, due to the enemy not being a brute.

Gamemako wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Half of what you are shooting is shields. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]
20 damage for every shot, or 32.5 damage for HALF of them?

Devil's
bargin. Hardest thing to break is armor, and armor will take more than
half of your time, especially on Platinum. Too many tools good for
ripping up shields and barriers.

Hardly matters, anyway. I'm
still not volunteering for the AP mod unless it turns out it's bugged
and giving triple or quadruple hits. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Armor will still take the majority of your bullets, yes.

However, obsessing over the armor half of its health is actually penalizing you.
Due to the fact that 12 damage per bullet on armor is not enough to outweigh the 20 damage per bullet you got stipping the shields.

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 07:39 .

[Gamemako]

Rokayt wrote...

However, obsessing over the armor half of its health is actually penalizing you.

You could be right for a solo Atlas, assuming you did your TTK calculations correctly. Still, it depends on your team as well. Kroguard with Reegar makes AP a better choice because the shield will last less than a second. Still hardly matters because of Warp Ammo making AP redunant (again, barring funny double-hit mechanics).

Modifié par Gamemako, 23 août 2012 - 07:42 .

[Rokayt]

Gamemako wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

However, obsessing over the armor half of its health is actually penalizing you.

You could be right for a solo Atlas, assuming you did your TTK calculations correctly. Still, it depends on your team as well. Kroguard with Reegar makes AP a better choice because the shield will last less than a second. Still hardly matters because of Warp Ammo.

Incindiary ammo actually has a wonderous reaction with hitting shielded enemies with the Reegar:

When stipping the enemies shields, your incindiary ammo is applying stacking DOT based on the post shield multiplier damage... However, the DOT isn't ajusted back down when the shields break...
This leads to massive damge.

Especially when you rock the shredder mod with EB.
(Do note, the Reegar does 50% damage against armor anyhow, so you need to get a really good setup for the any anti-armor bonuses to matter much, beyond a humble shredder mod.)

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 07:47 .

[AbhijitSM]

Ok...i have the video re-uploaded :

Setup is as follows :
Devastator mode is specced for 30% weapon damage , ROF & accuracy bonuses
T5-V battlesuit all specced for weapon damage - 27.50%
Consumables/Gear used : AP ammo 3, Assault rifle rail amp 3, Assault rifle amp gear V
Weapon mods used : Stability mod V + Extended barrel V

If i swap the AP ammo above with Incendiary/Warp ammo lvl 3 or 4 it leaves the atlas with 4-6 bars of armor i guess. Don't have a video for that though. Just experienced in-game.