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What shall I use for Platinum? *UPDATED WITH RESULTS*


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Ryumanjisen wrote...

And this is from the thread Cake Tasty linked. Looking at the bolded text, your words imply that you are a "good gold player". So, unless you are an schizophrenic with multiple personalities, I say this is a troll thread. A nice one, actually, I can tell some people here even believe your words. 

I give you a 8.5/10.


No, that is a friend of mine who sometimes use my account to play when I'm not here. You see I live with 2 roommates in a student apartment and we all share the same Xbox. Sometimes my friend "helps out" other players although I can honestly say that he believes he's a much better player than he actually is :lol:

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 Of course, the old  "someone else was using my account". Interesting you didn't mention this fact when you defended the "truth" of your manifest.

Then, I assume your friend posted this thread too, right?
http://social.biowar.../index/11886492 

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dumdum2 wrote...

You should read the whole thread! I have explained a couple of times now why I have what I have in my manifest!


you can't solo stupid bronze, which I can personally do with 1 level any class, but still you done challenge with full extraction gold?
miracle.
You lacks in basic knowledge, you have plenty of good weapons but still use some uncommon crap. 
You have indra VII but you prefer raptor which is just worse version of indra. 
That's why imo this thread is just waste time, you are trolling or I don't know

if you want build for platinum 
http://narida.pytalh...9@0@A@@O4N4@0@0 

+ cyclonic IV + shotgun gear amp + shotgun rail amp III + ap ammo IV.
best build for platinum and very easy to use. use TC->PM->shoot waiting for tc to be ready. learn how to cancell reload. best map for this build is glacier.

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Ryumanjisen wrote...

 Of course, the old  "someone else was using my account". Interesting you didn't mention this fact when you defended the "truth" of your manifest.

Then, I assume your friend posted this thread too, right?
http://social.biowar.../index/11886492 


Because I already had most of my manifest from the beginning since I used a lot of money (Microsoft points) to buy packs. That someone else uses my account from time to time doesn't mean that it gives me more than equipment cards. Never said anything else in my posts.

Yes, that would be him writing that, I have not done more than 6 waves solo on bronze (which I wrote in my first post) so you could easily tell that I'm not the one writing in that thread LOL :lol:

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dumdum2 wrote...

Because I already had most of my manifest from the beginning since I used a lot of money (Microsoft points) to buy packs. That someone else uses my account from time to time doesn't mean that it gives me more than equipment cards. Never said anything else in my posts.

Yes, that would be him writing that, I have not done more than 6 waves solo on bronze (which I wrote in my first post) so you could easily tell that I'm not the one writing in that thread LOL :lol:


I've make my case and presented the proofs. Let the jury decide if you are guilty of trolling...or innocent. :police:

Still, nice thread OP, kept me entertained for a while.

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yarpenthemad21 wrote...
you can't solo stupid bronze, which I can personally do with 1 level any class, but still you done challenge with full extraction gold?
miracle.
You lacks in basic knowledge, you have plenty of good weapons but still use some uncommon crap. 
You have indra VII but you prefer raptor which is just worse version of indra. 
That's why imo this thread is just waste time, you are trolling or I don't know


Another "elitist" huh? Thanks for making me look stupid, not everyone can be as good as you mate. :ph34r:

Challenge I have done, didn't go well and took a lot of tries, had good players around me when I finally completed them (those that were on gold) but I have to say I got carried which I don't want to get on platinum.

Tried the Indra but even with armor piercing it can't go through a Guardians shield (glitch?) but the Raptor can. Also the Raptor is good when I fire from the hip, doesn't seem to give me much damage pentalty when doing that. It is a beast on bronze and silver and it is light so I get a good cooldown. Enough said!

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dumdum2 wrote...

Bergraven wrote...

Might be an idea to start with the most durable class you feel comfortable with - aim for staying alive & being useful rather than topping the board. I've had best results on gold with either a defence spec geth engineer or a durability spec Kroguard FWIW.


As I said, I don't want to get carried so I would rather not be last in score. I do actually like the Krogan Vanguard but the glitch is really annoying (you know, the one when you fly up over the map or under it).

Any particular enemy or map that would be preferable when using the Krogan Vanguard?

Thanks for your advice btw! :)


You can be last in score but still have been the only one who did all of the objectives/drew aggro/revived everyone/never went down and inconvenienced someone who had to revive you.  I like to score well as much as the next man (who isn't being pious about score being irrelevant), but if you're doing the 'good team mate' stuff you're actively helping regardless of score, and higher scores will come as you get more & more used to how to get the best DPS with your chosen class.  One reason I like the Kroguard is because he's a team reviving monster just as much as he is a damage monster.

Best enemy for him is Geth - the only real problem for the class is insta-kills, and the Geth don't have any insta-kill units.  But try to make sure you're the host if you're playing the class - makes both the charge glitch and dying because of a lagged/missed charge much less likely.

I don't care if you're trolling or not - the more times useful information gets added to the forum, the more likely it is that people who need it will find it.  But generally, I'd like to credit the general public with enough imagination that the trolls can come up with something funnier/more aggravating than asking perfectly reasonable albeit newbie-ish questions about the game, lol.

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Ryumanjisen wrote...
I've make my case and presented the proofs. Let the jury decide if you are guilty of trolling...or innocent. :police:

Still, nice thread OP, kept me entertained for a while.


Well, the truth always prevails in the end, you do notice that I have fully valid arguments for every post in here saying I'm trolling?

I would say that is evidence enough that I am not trolling, if I were I wouldn't have been able to answer all posts that fast and easily with valid arguments would I?

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Bergraven wrote...
Best enemy for him is Geth - the only real problem for the class is insta-kills, and the Geth don't have any insta-kill units.  But try to make sure you're the host if you're playing the class - makes both the charge glitch and dying because of a lagged/missed charge much less likely.

 

This is platinum though, Banshees and Phantoms will be present. Still good to use the Krogan Vanguard? Don't want to get instakilled cause then I can't be an asset to the team at all :P

Bergraven wrote... 
But generally, I'd like to credit the general public with enough imagination that the trolls can come up with something funnier/more aggravating than asking perfectly reasonable albeit newbie-ish questions about the game, lol.


Precisely! Glad at least someone gets it :)

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dumdum2 wrote...

Another "elitist" huh? Thanks for making me look stupid, not everyone can be as good as you mate. :ph34r:

Challenge I have done, didn't go well and took a lot of tries, had good players around me when I finally completed them (those that were on gold) but I have to say I got carried which I don't want to get on platinum.

Tried the Indra but even with armor piercing it can't go through a Guardians shield (glitch?) but the Raptor can. Also the Raptor is good when I fire from the hip, doesn't seem to give me much damage pentalty when doing that. It is a beast on bronze and silver and it is light so I get a good cooldown. Enough said!


lack of knowledge at all.
tactical cloak has cooldown. but when you use tc and right after it you use you gun cd = 3s. always. even with -200% recharge time.
thats why so many infiltrator uses claymore, bw, and other heavy setups...

raptor is good on bronze. Have you tested harrier on bronze? It's just destroys everything. I don't get how it's possible to have all those guns and still use some stupid raptor. 
Build aren't problem at all. just use search button. You need practice on gold, you need to find your playstyle and weapons/classes/builds which fits you. Start with cerberus on gold on some random map. Learn how to deal with phantoms fast. Than geth. Learn how annoying they are, how to avoid turrets, hunters and those rockets. How to survive this range dps from geth. Than reapers, how to cqc, how to run around map, how to avoid banshee or how to kill her fast. 
After that you can go platinum. On platinum you have all factions, you need to kill bosses fast and deal with phantoms fast. And still you need to know the map, know how to move, how to avoid range damage etc.
Avoid farming games (moslty firebase white geth gold). Test all classes, find ones that fits your most.

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 I'm going to try platinum right now, will post results here afterwards :)

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dumdum2 wrote...

Bergraven wrote...
Best enemy for him is Geth - the only real problem for the class is insta-kills, and the Geth don't have any insta-kill units.  But try to make sure you're the host if you're playing the class - makes both the charge glitch and dying because of a lagged/missed charge much less likely.

 

This is platinum though, Banshees and Phantoms will be present. Still good to use the Krogan Vanguard? Don't want to get instakilled cause then I can't be an asset to the team at all :P


Well, my last twopenneth before I go and do what I should be doing instead is: don't play platinum yet.  I can understand the desire to do so, but if you're not well schooled in gold and know how to deal with pretty much everything without thinking, you're going to be a liability on platinum where you won't get time to think.  Bear in mind that silver tactics often won't work in the same way because of the higher DPS/resilience of the enemies.  I'm no ME3 god, but I'm pretty experienced, and I wouldn't consider playing platinum seriously without knowing the class like the back of my hand and making sure I was in a team I had considerable experience playing with.  Get at least to the point where you're sufficiently used to gold that you make full extraction (or at least wave 10 objective complete, if the rest of the team let themselves die after that) a good percentage of the time, then move up.

Of course, have a go at platinum if you like.  But I strongly suspect you'll see the wisdom of getting more gold under your belt first within the first couple of rounds.  Either way, happy hunting.

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Why you type all this amount of text just to troll some poor guys? If you put such amount of efforts to troll peoples hire, i  can,t even  imagine what efforts you invest to troll peoples ingame.

So , what is your purpose ?

Modifié par ToughReason, 22 août 2012 - 01:08 .


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Here's the results from my first match that I just did. Man we got slaughtered! You can see the results below and also my loadout, one guy left at the first wave after he bleed out and I was the only one alive in the end, had to use all my rockets just to try and get us to wave 2!

Seriously, that was crazy :(

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dumdum2 wrote...
Well, the truth always prevails in the end, you do notice that I have fully valid arguments for every post in here saying I'm trolling?

I would say that is evidence enough that I am not trolling, if I were I wouldn't have been able to answer all posts that fast and easily with valid arguments would I?


All arguments posted here are, in fact,  invalid. In the internet, there is no absolute way to proof the validity of someone's statements.

However, there are two facts that are really suspicious:
1) Your manifest. Theorically, one can have all his weapongs/gears/etc maxed without even played one single bronze match, just by buying packs with real money. However, I find higly unprobable that an inexperienced player will spend so much money like you claim.
2) When presented an interesting evidence in a thread you posted, you used instantly the old "someone else is using my account" card. As I said, we have literally no way to make that statement invalid. But the fact you didn't mention this before is highly suspicious. In other words, I don't believe it.

Adding together this two facts, and the way you write your posts (your "noobish" statements are too...typical, to put it bluntly), my assumption is that you are indeed "trolling". But, cause we will never be able to verify it, it's just a matter of beliefs.

On a side note, I must say that I don't really care if you're "trolling" or not. As it been said, there are some good advice for players in this thread, so I don't see any wrong here.

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This is a troll scene! All of you move along!

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yarpenthemad21 wrote...
I don't get how it's possible to have all those guns and still use some stupid raptor. 


Well, I mostly play for fun and I like that weapon, don't need elitist comments like that.

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Ryumanjisen wrote...

Adding together this two facts, and the way you write your posts (your "noobish" statements are too...typical, to put it bluntly), my assumption is that you are indeed "trolling". But, cause we will never be able to verify it, it's just a matter of beliefs


Well, I just tried platinum and as you can see from my posted pics I didn't do that well on it. I did play against Geth since someone here said that they where easiest to play against since they had no instakills, but I still died almost instantly when playing my Geth Infiltrator against them.

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Human engineer is actually my preferred class for platinum. S/he's a tech bursting machine.

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dumdum2 wrote...

Here's the results from my first match that I just did. Man we got slaughtered! You can see the results below and also my loadout, one guy left at the first wave after he bleed out and I was the only one alive in the end, had to use all my rockets just to try and get us to wave 2!

Seriously, that was crazy :(



many many many mistakes.
first this stupid raptor. change it to indra. use extended barrel + shredder mod. always
second ULM on smg doesn't work. also locust is just worst gun in game. play with one gun instead or use scorpion with ULM + barrel. good weapon against phantoms.
second why on earth you stack cooldown gear and consumables? on infiltrator? 
targiting vi consumables...omg. not on platinum. most guys on platinum doesn't have head at all. use sniper amp.

really go first on gold. but before going on gold you need to at least solo bronze and carry guys on silver. get some build, watch some videos on youtube. than start learning.


Well, I mostly play for fun and I like that weapon, don't need elitist comments like that. 

If you don't want advise, don't make threads about it. That simple.

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Gwyphon wrote...

Human engineer is actually my preferred class for platinum. S/he's a tech bursting machine.


Going to try that one in my next match :) Any suggestions how I could use it efficiently on platinum?

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dumdum2 wrote...
Well, I just tried platinum and as you can see from my posted pics I didn't do that well on it. I did play against Geth since someone here said that they where easiest to play against since they had no instakills, but I still died almost instantly when playing my Geth Infiltrator against them.


So? Those pics doesn't prove anything. If you want to maintain your façade, you only need to make a private room, invite three friend and just let you and your companions die in wave 2. Besides, we don't know when that pics were taken, or in what circumstances.

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dumdum2 wrote...

Allright, so I have now played this game for a little while and done a lot of bronze and a medium amount of silver as well. Haven't really tried gold yet but I've heard people say that gold and platinum are similar to each other only that platinum's got a few more bosses and such.

I haven't really solo'd bronze yet but I have managed to get past wave 6 on bronze by myself, so I guess that's pretty good right? So now I want to try platinum and I don't want to make a fool of myself so any advice you guys (or girls) can give me would be much appreciated ^_^

classes:

My favorite class on bronze and silver is the Human Engineer but I don't know if he is platinum valid? I don't have any points in fitness cause I very seldom die anyway, would it be wise to put points in fitness if I would use this class on platinum?

I do believe however that I will go with the Geth Infiltrator the first time on platinum since I've seen that a lot of guys prefer to use this class (speedruns and such). As of now my build is 6/0/6/6/6, so I have no points in proxy mines, could this be a good build to use?

Weapons:

I prefer to use something light so I maximize my cooldown. If I go with the Geth Infiltrator, what weapons would you recommend that is light and effective? I would probably go for Locust or Raptor, but maybe I could use a heavier assault rifle like the Striker instead? Haven't really tried the Striker that much but it really kicks ass on bronze!

Equipment:

Here is where I have a hard time choosing what to use. Obviously I want to have the Structural Ergonomics as Gear and Power Efficiency Module since it reduces cooldown on my GI (meaning I can use cloak more often). But what about the other equipment cards? I was thinking Cryo Rounds to weaken armor and slow enemies down on platinum would be very effective? Also the Targeting VI can make the Locust and Raptor even more deadly if I score headshots (which I am very good at!)?

Summary:

Well, there you have it. I really don't want to get carried or anything in my first platinum match so I really would like some suggestions about the classes, powers, weapons and equipment that I'm thinking of using.

I also hear a lot about "reload canceling" and how effective that is on platinum but I don't know how to do it. Would it really improve my DPS on the Raptor and Locust that much? And by the way, should I even bring two weapons or should I only bring one weapon because of the cooldown? :blink:


Kind regards,

Mr. Confused


If you have friends to play, then try it out simply with them. I think you should try out gold first and if you can deal with it then try platinum.

If you haven't friends to play (you can play just with randoms) then do not ruin the game of the others by muddling. Try to solo silver with a non-infiltrator class (I suggest you the human soldier, the geth engineer or an adept). If you can do that then you can handle the gold matches with a random team (maybe).

Anyway, the platinum level is about massive DPS (damage per second) and AoE (area of effect) attacks (grenades, biotic explosions, tech bursts, etc.).
You need power combos, grenades or weapons with heavy DPS to be able to kill enemies fast enough. If you can't do this then  you will be swarmed by banshees, ravagers, brutes, phantoms, hunters, pyros and geth primes in one wave.

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yarpenthemad21 wrote...
many many many mistakes.
first this stupid raptor. change it to indra. use extended barrel + shredder mod. always
second ULM on smg doesn't work. also locust is just worst gun in game. play with one gun instead or use scorpion with ULM + barrel. good weapon against phantoms.
second why on earth you stack cooldown gear and consumables? on infiltrator? 
targiting vi consumables...omg. not on platinum. most guys on platinum doesn't have head at all. use sniper amp.


As I told you before my dear friend, I used the shredder mod on the Indra before and still couldn't shoot through a Guardian's shield, so it is glitched hence why I use it on the Raptor instead!

Second, ULM does work, when I equip it in the weapon menu the cooldown is effected, that is all the evidence I need (Burned!).

Ehh, why wouldn't I go for cooldown gear on Infiltrator? Makes my cloak recharge faster.

Targeting VI gives a lot of extra damage when scoring headshots, and since platinum is full of bosses I want to be able to kill them as fast as possible and I get more damage when shooting headshots against enemies.

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I've played gold with dumdum2. A few months ago he and his team carried a Bronzie (me) through a FBJ/R/G match. He is a very good to elite Gold player, and is trolling you guys.

+1000 Robert!!