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[LiarasShield]

AbnormalJoe wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...


But forcing your believes onto others and trying to alter people from who they're as people isn't right

but what if that's one of the deeper, underlying meanings of Mass Effect 3? whatever choice you make, it isn't the "right" choice, no matter what?

Then I die a little on the inside because we can't make the right choice

[AresKeith]

LiarasShield wrote...

AbnormalJoe wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...


But forcing your believes onto others and trying to alter people from who they're as people isn't right

but what if that's one of the deeper, underlying meanings of Mass Effect 3? whatever choice you make, it isn't the "right" choice, no matter what?

Then I die a little on the inside because we can't make the right choice

but there is one, its this lol http://social.biowar.../index/13721326

[DaBigDragon]

The "right" choice is what you make it. It depends on your views. I've seen support for all 3 endings, even the "refuse" ending. It all boils down to what you believe is right personally.

Not everyone is going to have the same point of view as someone else. You can say "X" is the only right ending, someone else will say no "Y" is the only right ending.

Once the EC came out, the endings have made for some thought-provoking arguments from all sides of the fence. Not just here but in other online forums as well. The discussions that stayed civil were VERY interesting. If there's one thing positive I can say about the endings, is that they definitely opened up discussion on some interesting topics depending on which one you chose and why.

Modifié par DaBigDragon, 22 août 2012 - 04:54 .

[LiarasShield]

AresKeith wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

AbnormalJoe wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...


But forcing your believes onto others and trying to alter people from who they're as people isn't right

but what if that's one of the deeper, underlying meanings of Mass Effect 3? whatever choice you make, it isn't the "right" choice, no matter what?

Then I die a little on the inside because we can't make the right choice

but there is one, its this lol http://social.biowar.../index/13721326

I wish the crucible could've been used only to weaken the reapers so we could beat them unfortunately that isn't how things went

[AbnormalJoe]

LiarasShield wrote...

AbnormalJoe wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...


But forcing your believes onto others and trying to alter people from who they're as people isn't right

but what if that's one of the deeper, underlying meanings of Mass Effect 3? whatever choice you make, it isn't the "right" choice, no matter what?

Then I die a little on the inside because we can't make the right choice

well, think about it, it's a war in which survival is the only paramount thing to go by. like Garrus says: 10 billion die so 20 billion can live. it's not right and it's not ideal but it's survival. By Destorying the reapers, you Genocide the Geth and kill off Edi, By Controling (and to some extent Synthesyzing with) the reapers ends the reaper threat, but doesn't end the fact that there are still Reapers out there. and by refusal, you are wasting the lives of Trillions just because of the refusal of action of one man/woman.

None of the endings are Right or Ideal, but they make the galaxy survive.

[Jadebaby]

LiarasShield wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Just don't let it eat you alive. The world has a bad tendancy to eat people up who try to fix it, and spit them out as cynical, pessimistic douches.

Fixing the internet on the other hand, ney impossible.

Who says we can't bring balance to the internet I shall take on that challange lol but yeah the only reason I've been having issues with pitznik is he keeps trying to force his beleives onto me lol

because the internet is a big place to try to bring balance

So is the universe ares but if commander shepard can do it so can we!

Shepard didn't save the universe. Hell she couldn't even save the galaxy. Damn Reaper compromises

Also, Liara's mine, don't even try it!

Why do you have no chance? Because you're just an ordinary shield. Whereas I'm her KaiLeng Reaper IFF plotshield.

unbreakable

Just like our bond

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 22 août 2012 - 04:53 .

[AresKeith]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

So is the universe ares but if commander shepard can do it so can we!

Shepard didn't save the universe. Hell she couldn't even save the galaxy. Damn Reaper compromises

Also, Liara's mine, don't even try it!

Why do you have no chance? Because you're just an ordinary shield. Whereas I'm her KaiLeng Reaper IFF plotshield.

unbreakable

Just like our bond

no Liara's mines

[LiarasShield]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Just don't let it eat you alive. The world has a bad tendancy to eat people up who try to fix it, and spit them out as cynical, pessimistic douches.

Fixing the internet on the other hand, ney impossible.

Who says we can't bring balance to the internet I shall take on that challange lol but yeah the only reason I've been having issues with pitznik is he keeps trying to force his beleives onto me lol

because the internet is a big place to try to bring balance

So is the universe ares but if commander shepard can do it so can we!

Shepard didn't save the universe. Hell she couldn't even save the galaxy. Damn Reaper compromises

Also, Liara's mine, don't even try it!

Why do you have no chance? Because you're just an ordinary shield. Whereas I'm her KaiLeng Reaper IFF plotshield.

unbreakable

Just like our bond

Guess we'd being going to war over liara then trust me my heavy plot armour shielding is the best in the galaxy no way you can take me lol ^_-

[alsonamedbort]

Pitznik wrote...

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

If someone's belief is against everything I value, I can't agree to disagree. But why would you care?

Why would you? It's a game.

Ideals that stand behind ingame choices are as real as ideals can be. I find the choice to sacrifice the whole galaxy in the name of one person's principles abhorrent, just like in real life. That is what discussion forum is for, isn't it?

LOL, they most certainly are not.  I suppose people who play as Sith in KOTOR are all inherently evil, then?

[Richthestampede]

I think this is what we're getting at here.



Interesting to note the colors of each occasion of "We are different" during the first chorus.

Modifié par Richthestampede, 22 août 2012 - 05:16 .

[Tritium315]

LiarasShield wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

IRL, yes.

On the internet, no.

Why is that though?

Because...

maaaze wrote...

I thought this was a given...

 

People like to be smug and elitist on the internet.

[AbnormalJoe]

Richthestampede wrote...

I think this is what we're getting at here.



Interesting to note the colors of each occasion of "We are different" during the first chorus.

IT PROVES IT.

but really, I do agree with you and with that statment. I just wish I could debate some of people where without getting into a hissyfit of the endings.

(and sadly enough, I don't want to bring hissyfitting here now... but isn't this is exactly what Mr. Hudson wanted us to do?)

*goes away to hide from hissyfit*

[byarru]

I agree. All the fights are pointless
I choose Control, but I accept Synthesis, Destroy and Refuse. Because no matter what there is still hope. In all four endings...

[Jadebaby]

LiarasShield wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

So is the universe ares but if commander shepard can do it so can we!

Shepard didn't save the universe. Hell she couldn't even save the galaxy. Damn Reaper compromises

Also, Liara's mine, don't even try it!

Why do you have no chance? Because you're just an ordinary shield. Whereas I'm her KaiLeng Reaper IFF plotshield.

unbreakable

Just like our bond

Guess we'd being going to war over liara then trust me my heavy plot armour shielding is the best in the galaxy no way you can take me lol ^_-

Well since I'm a lover and not a fighter.

Maybe I will seduce you, hence proving to Liara that your love in only skin-deep.

Liara (as an information broker) will honour me for my tactics to get the "truth" out of you....

flame on

[lillitheris]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

So, in short, no.

[AresKeith]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

So is the universe ares but if commander shepard can do it so can we!

Shepard didn't save the universe. Hell she couldn't even save the galaxy. Damn Reaper compromises

Also, Liara's mine, don't even try it!

Why do you have no chance? Because you're just an ordinary shield. Whereas I'm her KaiLeng Reaper IFF plotshield.

unbreakable

Just like our bond

Guess we'd being going to war over liara then trust me my heavy plot armour shielding is the best in the galaxy no way you can take me lol ^_-

Well since I'm a lover and not a fighter.

Maybe I will seduce you, hence proving to Liara that your love in only skin-deep.

Liara (as an information broker) will honour me for my tactics to get the "truth" out of you....

flame on

there's no need, I already have Liara, and Ashley, Tali, and Miranda haha

[Batnat]

Hehe...there I was, reading this thread, thinking of how to verbalize my support of the OP, but THEN you guys had to declare your claims over MY LI!!!...unacceptable!!!
But being the harmonic human I am...aaahh...f*** it!!!...HANDS OF MY GIRL!!!! BatNat has spoken!!!

Ok...I don´t see this ending well...let´s just hope alternate universes exist so we can all have our own Liara...

[Pitznik]

alsonamedbort wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

If someone's belief is against everything I value, I can't agree to disagree. But why would you care?

Why would you? It's a game.

Ideals that stand behind ingame choices are as real as ideals can be. I find the choice to sacrifice the whole galaxy in the name of one person's principles abhorrent, just like in real life. That is what discussion forum is for, isn't it?

LOL, they most certainly are not.  I suppose people who play as Sith in KOTOR are all inherently evil, then?

If they roleplay evil, it is ok.

If they are willing to defend their view point as logical and right, they are evil.

[alsonamedbort]

Pitznik wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

If someone's belief is against everything I value, I can't agree to disagree. But why would you care?

Why would you? It's a game.

Ideals that stand behind ingame choices are as real as ideals can be. I find the choice to sacrifice the whole galaxy in the name of one person's principles abhorrent, just like in real life. That is what discussion forum is for, isn't it?

LOL, they most certainly are not.  I suppose people who play as Sith in KOTOR are all inherently evil, then?

If they roleplay evil, it is ok.

If they are willing to defend their view point as logical and right, they are evil.

On one hand, this kind of nonsense is what this thread was designed to discuss and stop.

On the other, I at least now know that I don't have to take your posts seriously.

[Pitznik]

alsonamedbort wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

If someone's belief is against everything I value, I can't agree to disagree. But why would you care?

Why would you? It's a game.

Ideals that stand behind ingame choices are as real as ideals can be. I find the choice to sacrifice the whole galaxy in the name of one person's principles abhorrent, just like in real life. That is what discussion forum is for, isn't it?

LOL, they most certainly are not.  I suppose people who play as Sith in KOTOR are all inherently evil, then?

If they roleplay evil, it is ok.

If they are willing to defend their view point as logical and right, they are evil.

On one hand, this kind of nonsense is what this thread was designed to discuss and stop.

On the other, I at least now know that I don't have to take your posts seriously.

Why bother to quote my post if you don't even answer to it?

[xsdob]

I agree with this and try to say thing in all the ending fights, it doesn't work well in electronic text formats.

[BDelacroix]

It would be nice if we could disagree without being disagreeable, but that's a rare occurence.

[alsonamedbort]

Pitznik wrote...

Why bother to quote my post if you don't even answer to it?

Because it's a point that this entire thread was created to address, and one that I have already addressed in this thread.  You attach personal labels of good/evil based on choices someone makes in a game, which is completely different from real life.  You don't feel the true weight of decisions in a vacuum.  There is (hopefully) a level of detachment in a video game.  Calling someone evil because they try to defend their choice in a video game is beyond silly.

[DirtyPhoenix]

D24O wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

D24O wrote...

I agree with Liara. IMO the endings really aren't worth getting as worked up as some people do. I'd rather post Gooby pls 10 times than fight over how bad one ending is over another.

Gooby plz, u kno iz fun to post diz.

Exactly, I get more fun from posting that s*** than by fighting with someone on the internet about Dinosaur DLC.

This is unacceptable.

[Conniving_Eagle]