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Can We All Agree That We Have Different Believes And Different Reasons For Why We Pick A Particular Ending?


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Darth Asriel wrote...

My Sheps only get 2 choices. Destroy or Refuse.

I can't pick control because 25-30 hrs of telling TIM its wrong, has a way of coloring my thinking about it. Plus glowboy is all like "yeah you can totally do it. Even though no one else has. You're just that awesome."

And Synthesis makes my brain puke. I get it's a game and I get it's not real life. But when glowboy says it forms a new DNA I really almost lose it every time, and stop listening to him. I need a paragon/renegade interrupt right there.

But I respect everyone else's choices. It's your story you end it how you want. To each his own I say.


Two things. First, you can control not because you're "just that awesome" but because you're not indoctrinated. If Anderson had made it to the Catalyst, he could control.

Second, the DNA could have been metaphorical. Or perhaps a change in the DNA that incorporates some new, synthetic molecular machinery. The "new DNA" reference is not that out there, considering it's science fiction. However, how the Crucible accomplishes this new DNA is a good question.

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We need synthesis in the BSN forum to merge all the ending fans so we can truly understand each other and live in a idealistic peaceful forum.


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I would love to see a united bsn forum or at least one that doesn't try to belittle others because they picked something different from everybody else lol

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LiarasShield wrote...

I would love to see a united bsn forum or at least one that doesn't try to belittle others because they picked something different from everybody else lol


Nah, disagreement is fine. Mudslinging isn't.

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They are all options that can be justified in some fashion. People just want to feel like their choices is right and validate themselves in the process.

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InvincibleHero wrote...

They are all options that can be justified in some fashion. People just want to feel like their choices is right and validate themselves in the process.


But forcing ones views onto others or start insulting and labeling a entire group because they chose something different is where we cross the line between what is ok and what is acceptable

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If all of them were hard choices with good reasons behind them the debate would be mostly positive. Debate over rachni queen, collector base, sidonis, the genophage, etc isn't nearly as insidious as debate about endings. Since every possible reason to pick any of the endings is terrible because all the choices involve an atrocity, all the ending threads are mostly negative, basically people telling each other that I am less of a monster than you are.

Well and then there are the ones who think synthesis has no downsides, of course... but I like to imagine they're the fringe.

Modifié par Nyoka, 23 août 2012 - 01:51 .


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Sure, OP, we all have different believes. Some of us belief in winning the game. Any ending that leaves the Reapers alive (or their offspring: Geth and EDI) is Game Over.

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hoodaticus wrote...

Sure, OP, we all have different believes. Some of us belief in winning the game. Any ending that leaves the Reapers alive (or their offspring: Geth and EDI) is Game Over.



Well obviously it is your believe and your decision to feel that way though I am somewhat curious why you hate the geth when the quarians attacked them first and they only defended themselves?

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LiarasShield wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Sure, OP, we all have different believes. Some of us belief in winning the game. Any ending that leaves the Reapers alive (or their offspring: Geth and EDI) is Game Over.



Well obviously it is your believe and your decision to feel that way though I am somewhat curious why you hate the geth when the quarians attacked them first and they only defended themselves?

Geth and EDI are who they are because they have Reaper code inside them.  Geth owe their very life - their very existence as living beings - to the Reaper code.  Both Geth and EDI have souls - and those souls are Reaper.

I have played too many Bioware games to believe that the Great Evil did not arrange for a path to return through its children.

Destroy is the only ending in which you truly beat the game.  All other endings leave the Reapers alive.

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Nyoka wrote...

If all of them were hard choices with good reasons behind them the debate would be mostly positive. Debate over rachni queen, collector base, sidonis, the genophage, etc isn't nearly as insidious as debate about endings. Since every possible reason to pick any of the endings is terrible because all the choices involve an atrocity, all the ending threads are mostly negative, basically people telling each other that I am less of a monster than you are.

Well and then there are the ones who think synthesis has no downsides, of course... but I like to imagine they're the fringe.


QFT, which is why I generally don't care to discuss the endings. Not that fun to do.

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^ It is funny to poke fun at synthesis... but actually discussing the endings always ends badly if the discussion involves supporters of any of them because of that.

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hoodaticus wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Sure, OP, we all have different believes. Some of us belief in winning the game. Any ending that leaves the Reapers alive (or their offspring: Geth and EDI) is Game Over.



Well obviously it is your believe and your decision to feel that way though I am somewhat curious why you hate the geth when the quarians attacked them first and they only defended themselves?

Geth and EDI are who they are because they have Reaper code inside them.  Geth owe their very life - their very existence as living beings - to the Reaper code.  Both Geth and EDI have souls - and those souls are Reaper.

I have played too many Bioware games to believe that the Great Evil did not arrange for a path to return through its children.

Destroy is the only ending in which you truly beat the game.  All other endings leave the Reapers alive.



Well the geth and edi do not want to be like the reapers and if you get the quarians to calm down the geth even want to make peace with them they diffently don't seem nearly as evil as they were portrayed to be or as destructive as the reapers have been during all three games

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hoodaticus wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Sure, OP, we all have different believes. Some of us belief in winning the game. Any ending that leaves the Reapers alive (or their offspring: Geth and EDI) is Game Over.



Well obviously it is your believe and your decision to feel that way though I am somewhat curious why you hate the geth when the quarians attacked them first and they only defended themselves?

Geth and EDI are who they are because they have Reaper code inside them.  Geth owe their very life - their very existence as living beings - to the Reaper code.  Both Geth and EDI have souls - and those souls are Reaper.

I have played too many Bioware games to believe that the Great Evil did not arrange for a path to return through its children.

Destroy is the only ending in which you truly beat the game.  All other endings leave the Reapers alive.


but the Geth and EDI both hate the Reapers and what they do, the Reaper code helped them become what they are but that doesn't define them are evil. The Geth was even preparing to fight the Reapers before the Quarians attacked again

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LiarasShield wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

They are all options that can be justified in some fashion. People just want to feel like their choices is right and validate themselves in the process.


But forcing ones views onto others or start insulting and labeling a entire group because they chose something different is where we cross the line between what is ok and what is acceptable

Oh I agree with you on that. The people doing it will not listen anyway. Just recognize when it is a waste of time to argue back and forth. Many seem to bind their ego and slef-esteem into everything.

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I agree with TC. I've learned in my short time here on BSN that arguing with people over the endings is like bashing your head against a brick wall. You won't move the wall and the only thing you gain is a headache.

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LiarasShield wrote...

So what I'm asking is could we all agree that we have different believes and views for why we choose a particular choice.


I can agree with that obviously, but BSN will never agree on anything collectively.

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Zjarcal wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

So what I'm asking is could we all agree that we have different believes and views for why we choose a particular choice.


I can agree with that obviously, but BSN will never agree on anything collectively.

I disagree that the BSN will never agree on anything. 

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well it is all up to you my friends if you want peace to exist in bsn ^^

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hoodaticus wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Sure, OP, we all have different believes. Some of us belief in winning the game. Any ending that leaves the Reapers alive (or their offspring: Geth and EDI) is Game Over.



Well obviously it is your believe and your decision to feel that way though I am somewhat curious why you hate the geth when the quarians attacked them first and they only defended themselves?

Geth and EDI are who they are because they have Reaper code inside them.  Geth owe their very life - their very existence as living beings - to the Reaper code.  Both Geth and EDI have souls - and those souls are Reaper.

I have played too many Bioware games to believe that the Great Evil did not arrange for a path to return through its children.

Destroy is the only ending in which you truly beat the game.  All other endings leave the Reapers alive.


100% in agreement with hoodaticus here - I've always maintained that in my opinion, any solution in which the Reapers are still around in any form is not the right decision

Re the OP - it should go without saying that we all have different beliefs and opinions, and that we should respect those. As far as Bioware - and EA - as companies, they have to market the game to customers. If they alienate a large portion of those customers, then ... well, I'm not going to buy ME3 DLC, regardless of other people's opinions.

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Stornskar wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Sure, OP, we all have different believes. Some of us belief in winning the game. Any ending that leaves the Reapers alive (or their offspring: Geth and EDI) is Game Over.



Well obviously it is your believe and your decision to feel that way though I am somewhat curious why you hate the geth when the quarians attacked them first and they only defended themselves?

Geth and EDI are who they are because they have Reaper code inside them.  Geth owe their very life - their very existence as living beings - to the Reaper code.  Both Geth and EDI have souls - and those souls are Reaper.

I have played too many Bioware games to believe that the Great Evil did not arrange for a path to return through its children.

Destroy is the only ending in which you truly beat the game.  All other endings leave the Reapers alive.


100% in agreement with hoodaticus here - I've always maintained that in my opinion, any solution in which the Reapers are still around in any form is not the right decision

Re the OP - it should go without saying that we all have different beliefs and opinions, and that we should respect those. As far as Bioware - and EA - as companies, they have to market the game to customers. If they alienate a large portion of those customers, then ... well, I'm not going to buy ME3 DLC, regardless of other people's opinions.


Just don't try force your believes onto others and just enjoy the game and pick the ending that is right for you and your shepard and everything could be great ^_^.