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[Fiery Knight]

As the topic states, I'm wondering if the novel 'Asunder' is worht buying?

I did enjoy reading The Stolen Throne and The Calling, but that was mostly b/c it featured Maric and Loghain. Not sure I would have bothered with them otherwise. So I'm just curios, does the novel feature any interesting characters, and does the novel delve into the Mage / Templar war in a very political manner? The war interest me very much, but if it's all just "Booo, mages are evil! No, templars are evil" and nothing more complicated than that, I won't bother with it.

So, is it worth the money?

[Reznore57]

Well if you enjoyed The Stolen Throne and The Calling , yeah sure.

There's some interesting characters for sure , and a lot of stuff happen behind the scene and cause stuff to blow up at the end.
I'm not sure it's a very complicated political plot ...but you can see that the chantry and the mages are divided as a group and everyone has his own little agenda .

[King Cousland]

Wynne and Shale feature in it if you didn't know. Wynne has quite a vital role in fact.

[Fiery Knight]

Reznore57 wrote...
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I'm not sure it's a very complicated political plot ...but you can see that the chantry and the mages are divided as a group and everyone has his own little agenda .

I see. How much is it centered on? Does the plot concern around this event, or something else?

[syllogi]

The plot is very much centered on the mage/templar conflict, and it gives you a little more information on the Divine, how the Circles of Magi are run from the point of view of the mages, more backstory on Wynne, and a new character named Cole who is pretty mysterious and interesting.

[Renmiri1]

Hawke_12 wrote...

Reznore57 wrote...
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I'm not sure it's a very complicated political plot ...but you can see that the chantry and the mages are divided as a group and everyone has his own little agenda .

I see. How much is it centered on? Does the plot concern around this event, or something else?

It is a major part of the plot but supposedly the story is about a mage (Rhys) being framed for murder, and being taken on a mission with Wynne (his mother) to avoid being executed. The mission and the crime later get tangled with the mage / templar conflict

Is worth buying IMHO.

Modifié par Renmiri1, 22 août 2012 - 04:36 .

[Jerrybnsn]

Yes. Great story.

I'll grant you that the mage/templar conflict falls flat as a video game, but as a written novel, David Gaider is able to bring out a deeper and more interesting storyline.  The whole mage/templar conflict is more of just the backdrop to what the story is all about.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 22 août 2012 - 04:42 .

[Reznore57]

Well , you see why the chantry and mages kind of divorce.And how the chantry became divided , and you can see that mages have different idea about their "freedom".
You follow the event that set eveything in motion.
There's a big part about a quest ...that will somehow lead to a disaster.

IMHO , the books isn't all over the place .It 's pretty focused on telling about a particular event.
But i'm not sure what you're looking for when you talk about very complicated political plot.

[meanieweenie]

I enjoyed it. Plus, it may help you flesh out the reasons behind some of the conflicts as the others here have pointed out.

[thats1evildude]

The book does take a pro-mage slant, but its opinion on templars isn't so much "Templars are bad, yo" as it is "The templar order has lost its way". If anything, Evangeline presents a good case for the necessity of templars to safeguard mages against corruption.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 22 août 2012 - 04:51 .

[Kidd]

Best book of the three so far. Really, really enjoyed it. Easily worth every penny =)

[Fiery Knight]

Reznore57 wrote...

(...) IMHO , the books isn't all over the place .It 's pretty focused on telling about a particular event.
But i'm not sure what you're looking for when you talk about very complicated political plot.

Ah sorry, should have explained myself better

War is a very complicated conflict, which concerns many different aspects (geo-politics, nationalism, rascism, aggresion, etc.). I'm just curios how much it delves into these aspects. I'm afraid it will only be told from a mage point of view, which really doesn't sound that interesting, and is a very horrible way in telling a story when war is concerned (though it depends on the execution). 

Though what people have posted here, it sounds to be executed well enough. I'll go ahead an buy it then! 

[nightscrawl]

I'll add my vote to read it. Others have already stated various aspects that I agree with, so I won't repeat them.

I don't understand though... if you enjoyed the first two novels, despite your main reason for reading them, why would you think you might not enjoy this latest one (especially since it's written by the same person)?

[bzombo]

Hawke_12 wrote...

As the topic states, I'm wondering if the novel 'Asunder' is worht buying?

I did enjoy reading The Stolen Throne and The Calling, but that was mostly b/c it featured Maric and Loghain. Not sure I would have bothered with them otherwise. So I'm just curios, does the novel feature any interesting characters, and does the novel delve into the Mage / Templar war in a very political manner? The war interest me very much, but if it's all just "Booo, mages are evil! No, templars are evil" and nothing more complicated than that, I won't bother with it.

So, is it worth the money?

I enjoyed the novel. Gaider's writing gets better in each book, so in Asunder it's at its best so far. It's nice seeing familiar characters.

[Fiery Knight]

@nightscrawl Heh, well there's truth in that, but I'm a cautios fellow, and wanted to hear opinions first

Modifié par Hawke_12, 22 août 2012 - 06:19 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

Asunder is, I think, David's best novel so far. I recommend it.

[Rawgrim]

Its worth buying for any DA fan.

[Kidd]

Hawke_12 wrote...

War is a very complicated conflict, which concerns many different aspects (geo-politics, nationalism, rascism, aggresion, etc.). I'm just curios how much it delves into these aspects. I'm afraid it will only be told from a mage point of view, which really doesn't sound that interesting, and is a very horrible way in telling a story when war is concerned (though it depends on the execution). 

The novel isn't really focused on the war in the manner you seem to be thinking. It doesn't go into details about what is happening, where exactly and what effects it's having (in fact, there's multiple parts where the characters themselves don't really follow the events at large very well - nor does the reader). It's the story of a few people in the midst of lots of events that happen to play out at the same time there's lots of chaos in the world, and this story ties into the greater plot though it by no means defines it.

Any ways you've already bought it, so just start reading and you'll lurve in no time =)

[Sejborg]

I would say no.

I read Stolen Throne and found that to be acceptable. But only because I liked the character of Loghain.

Calling was really bad. It had no interesting characters and the story was really easy to predict.

I read the first chapter of Asunder, and found it to be so incredibly melodramatic that I stopped reading.

[nightscrawl]

Sejborg wrote...

I read the first chapter of Asunder, and found it to be so incredibly melodramatic that I stopped reading.

The first chapter is hardly representative of the entire novel, especially since it's about a single character whose entire existence is well... dramatic. You never even got to the good stuff about mages and templars and all that. =/

The main problem I had with The Calling was that Maric seemed rather morose most of the time, which was understandable, but sometimes tiresome. I still like him however. Seeing a young Duncan was the main highlight for me though.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 22 août 2012 - 11:02 .

[Sejborg]

nightscrawl wrote...

Sejborg wrote...

I read the first chapter of Asunder, and found it to be so incredibly melodramatic that I stopped reading.

The first chapter is hardly representative of the entire novel, especially since it's about a single character whose entire existence is well... dramatic. You never even got to the good stuff about mages and templars and all that. =/

I don't mind dramatic. Melodramatic is not my thing though. I think it was incredibly melodramatic.

As for the templar vs. mage conflict. I find that horse to be beaten to death at least twice now. I'd wish some other conflict would make it into the spotlight. I just really don't find it all that exciting anymore.  The Dragon Age universe must have other conflicts to explore. Or at least it should have. 

Modifié par Sejborg, 22 août 2012 - 11:12 .

[JasonPogo]

Asunder was a great read, Gaider has come SO far as a writer for novels. The Stolen Throne though I liked it was rather hard to get through. But Asunder was great and had a nice twist that you kinda know is coming but you are still left wondering what it is going to be.

[Cutlass Jack]

I broke my usual rule against never buying game based fiction and picked it up, since it did look interesting. That said, I have yet to fit it into my reading schedule.

[Renmiri1]

I liked the Calling. Grey Wardens got a lot more real to me after reading it