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[Bullets McDeath]

I just beat the game on my second playthrough, got the killing blow on the Archdemon, got saved by my loose morals from the previous evening, and checked my heroic statistics or whatever at the post-coronation and it lists my most powerful foe slain as Gaxkang the Unbound! I have one other character with a post coronation save and his says Archdemon (granted Alistair got the killshot on Gaxkang on his playthrough). I also noticed the Archdemon is only worth like 210xp or something. Not that it matters at all since there's nothing to do after that, and it is pretty high for this game but is Gaxkang worth more? Please solve me this mystery somebody!

[Timortis]

"Most powerful foe slain" shows weird things like that sometimes. On one of my runs, it showed Kholgrim, or whatever his name is the Cultist leader, after I killed the High Dragon. Another time it showed Piotin when I had killed Jarvia etc.

[sinosleep]

Gaxkang is most certainly the tougher fight, Archdemon is a cakewalk.

[Ponce de Leon]

It's like comparing Kangaxx with Jon Irenicus. The first will destroy your entire party in less than 10 seconds if without preparation, the second will still be able to do so, but with the help of many demons.

Gaxkang is much stronger.

[I ReVaNChisT I]

Gaxkang is much stronger.

not when you have mana clash and three warriors that cant be knocked down

[sinosleep]

I ReVaNChisT I wrote...

Gaxkang is much stronger.

not when you have mana clash and three warriors that cant be knocked down

Even with all that, at least you have to face him man to man. The archdemon can be taken down using the ballistas almost exclusively. Summon an army, send each of your companions to a different ballista, go to town till they break, send your rogue out to fix them as they do, and continue shooting. I think I needed all of 2 heals for the entirety of the battle.

[Tonya777]

I think so , on some playthroughs I simply cannot beat Gaxkang on nightmare mode , but I can beat the final boss on any playthrough on nightmare as long as I have a bow or staff and like 100 potions lol

[YohkoOhno]

I think most powerful foe slain only shows up who did the Killing Blow. So if you had the final blow on Gaxkang, and one of your companions show the Archdemon, that means the person who did the killing blow gets the credit. AFAIK, Archdemon is still the most powerful.

[fantasypisces]

Gaxxkang is more powerful, I have wiped many a time on different difficulties fighting him. Have never once wiped on the Archdemon on different difficulties.

[Ponce de Leon]

I ReVaNChisT I wrote...
not when you have mana clash and three warriors that cant be knocked down

Yes, I agree on this point. But considering I never used mana clash against him yet...

[Dasim4]

Never had any issues with him in either playthrough. He just seemed like any of the other horrors to me. Not sure why he's so hard for people but I don't remember it being a particularly difficult fight. 1st playthrough was 2 mages, warrior, rogue archer. 2nd playthrough was 2 rogues both dw daggers, 1 healer mage, and a warrior. There are several fights in the game that I felt were much harder than this one. In fact when I looked at the thread title I couldn't even remember who Gaxkang was exactly and had to look him up on the Wiki to be certain. Maybe I was just lucky on my gear and abilities that he never gave my groups any trouble.

[DarkNeoCloud]

i really never have an issue with him before, even before i discovered mana clash is a real killer on him. i normally just face him with three people and i have no issue with him

[DragoonKain3]

My DEX tank Alistair pretty much solos Gaxkang even in nightmare. Dunno, every time he melees Gaxkang, Gaxkang switches to Revenant mode and tries to fruitlessly melee him every time apart from the occasional cone of cold. I just heal the damage CoC all back up, while Alistair is in no danger whatsoever at any point in time, all the while keeping aggro through threaten and taunt. Was actually surprised that he 'ranks' higher than High Dragon, considering Gaxkang could not possibly kill my tank at all.

I find Archdemon to be the tougher of the two fights, mainly because of dragon grabs which instagibs you. But its not as if that can't be prevented anyhow, so its still relatively easy... practically trivial if you use mage army in the final battle. 

[sinosleep]

What level have you guys been when fighting Gaxkhang? I have to ask because every playthrough he's easily the hardest 1 on 1 fight in the game for me whereas most other battles aren't particularly hard. He's always been harder than the other fights people complain about (Jarvia, Branka, High Dragon if I have a mage in the party, Flemeth) due to the fact I never take mana clash and as such the bastard can heal. About the only other fight that is comparitively difficult for me is beating Ser Carthurien the first time around when she has all the archers.

[Ambaryerno]

I used Shale to keep his attention with Stone Heart while Leliana, my P/C and Alistair just pelted him with arrows from the opposite side of the room. Leliana dropped a few Acid Flasks and Soulrot Bombs on him, while I had my P/C and Alistair using Cleansing Aura whenever Shale got Frozen/Horror'ed/etc.



What sucks about fighting him is that he's completely immune to almost EVERY magical attack and CC or debuff talent you can throw at him. You can't stun him, can't knock him down, can't freeze him.

[Badger8126]

I died 15 times before I killed Gaxkhang, I killed the the arch demon first try.

[Baiolit]

I've done Gaxxkang on Nightmare and he wasn't too difficult, but yes I do agree, he is a much harder fight than the archdemon.

[congokurtz]

What exactly do people find that tough about Gaxkang? He stands in one place, you have your melee beat on him, and he is dead in 30 secs. It is an extremely easy fight. The Archdemon fight isn't hard but at least it is a more dynamic fight in that he moves around, fly's to a "ranged only" position, and calls in a bunch of adds. All these things make the fight far more interesting than Gaxkang.



Are the people having trouble with Gaxkang taking a poorly suited party to fight him? I have beaten him with 4 different main characters (three on nightmare) with several combination of NPC's and never had trouble.

[sinosleep]

What level are you fighting him at? Cause I flat out do not believe you if it's low to mid (10 - 14). I had to hit him with more than 15 grenades to kill him (which hit a hell of a whole lot harder than ANYTHING your party can do at that level) and you're seriously going to try and tell me he's a cake walk? Again, the arch demon can be beaten using nothing but ballistas and calling your army. It doesn't matter one bit that he moves around because the ballistas turn to follow him. One companion per ballista, bring a rogue to repair, and you don't even have to down a potion to kill it. It's a complete and utter joke. Gaxkang on the other hand heals, spams aoe knockdowns, actually has to be fought man to man, etc, etc, etc. I seriously have no idea what on earth you guys are talking about.

Modifié par sinosleep, 23 décembre 2009 - 05:52 .

[Bibdy]

I thought the AD was more fun, since you could go off and smash in some Darkspawn for a bit, the fight lasted longer and you needed to run around a lot. Gaxkang was just a matter of positioning and spamming heals until he dropped.

[Cuthlan]

I found Gaxkang to be an easier fight than the archdemon.

[Jman5]

I think it depends on your set up. With my main being a rogue archer, I had a terrible time fighting Gaxkang. It was the only time I had to switch it down to easy. The Archdemon was a breeze on the other hand and I didn't even need ballistas or armies.



My second play through, I had 3 2-handers + Wynee and Gaxkang was an easy boss.

[congokurtz]

sinosleep wrote...

What level are you fighting him at? Cause I flat out do not believe you if it's low to mid (10 - 14). I had to hit him with more than 15 grenades to kill him (which hit a hell of a whole lot harder than ANYTHING your party can do at that level) and you're seriously going to try and tell me he's a cake walk? Again, the arch demon can be beaten using nothing but ballistas and calling your army. It doesn't matter one bit that he moves around because the ballistas turn to follow him. One companion per ballista, bring a rogue to repair, and you don't even have to down a potion to kill it. It's a complete and utter joke. Gaxkang on the other hand heals, spams aoe knockdowns, actually has to be fought man to man, etc, etc, etc. I seriously have no idea what on earth you guys are talking about.

This is the first time I have heard of gernades being used as a tactic on the Gaxkang fight (or any fight really).  But, if it works I guess you should do it.  I generally didn't fight Gaxkang until I was in the late teen levels.  Maybe that was a big diffrence.  But there is really no danger in that fight.  His caster form is the only real danger and he is only in it for half the fight, and since the fight only lasts about 30secs that means only about 15 secs of caster form.  My last battle with him was with my PC arcane warrior and a respeced Alister and Liliana both to DW with Wynn healing. I think that fight actually lasted longer than my previous play through as a DW warrior with a stock Zev, Ogrehn, and Morrigan.  The fight is so easy, stand and kill, I think my last playthrough was the only time I had dispell magic which means the previous two nighmare attempts (DW warrior and cunning rouge) were done with no dispells other than the templar's.

My feeling on the Archdemon is that the adds phase is the real danger if your healer gets swarmed.  You can still finish the fight without a healer, but I really dislike the constant health potion spam.  I never use the ballistas, I just put someone up on the platform with a bow or xbow, pop a spirit potion and pew pew.  This makes the adds phase a little more challenging, and I loves me some fireball action.  My arcane warrior playthrough I killed the archdemon with no army help, although the named NPC's show up anyway.  This also slows down the adds/platform phase.  I just feel that the Archdemon is a more interesting and challenging fight, it is certainly a longer fight.

[JaegerBane]

outlaworacle wrote...

I just beat the game on my second playthrough, got the killing blow on the Archdemon, got saved by my loose morals from the previous evening, and checked my heroic statistics or whatever at the post-coronation and it lists my most powerful foe slain as Gaxkang the Unbound! I have one other character with a post coronation save and his says Archdemon (granted Alistair got the killshot on Gaxkang on his playthrough). I also noticed the Archdemon is only worth like 210xp or something. Not that it matters at all since there's nothing to do after that, and it is pretty high for this game but is Gaxkang worth more? Please solve me this mystery somebody!

Frankly, Gaxkang was one of the most overrated boos in the game. He was hard as nails, true, but the way he's spoken of you'd think he was end boss of Tomb Raider III. At the end of the day, hitting him with Cone of Cold with a tank and a 2H and a mage hammering him for a few minutes pretty much squashed him in short order.

The Archedemon had help and was significantly more mobile.

[Vae_Victis]

Frankly, Gaxkang was one of the most overrated boos in the game.

Meh...I was dissapointed in both as well. Neither required the strategy of the original Kangaxx (especially w/ pre-ToB chars), Balthazar, the Ravager, et al. And they certainly didn't have the depth of Irenicus.

As far as the OP though I'd call Gaxxkang harder since he can be difficult for certain characters (a high Defense and/or magical resist rapes him) while I've never had a character that found the Archdemon to be a challenge.