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[D24O]

ATiBotka wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Knock off the personal attacks.

I'm sorry.

I.....surry Spoderman.

[Ravensword]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

My reaction to this thread:

Oh my God who the **** cares?

Amirite?

Right

Double Right.

You guys care. 

PROVE IT.

You posted in this thread, therefore you cared. You cared enough to post.

[RadicalDisconnect]

fchopin wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

fchopin wrote...


There are people you like and there other people you do not like is that correct?
 
If i change you and you like everyone then you are no longer the person you was, before you used reason and feelings to decide if you liked someone but i took that away from you and you are now a slave without realising it.
 
You have become a person who likes everyone without having the experience what it is like to discuss things with people and change yourself with experience.
 
Experience is what teaches us and not by becoming a zombie, zombiedom is not learning with experience.

Proof is inside your own mind, don't look for it outside.

Last time I checked, turians are still turians, krogans are still krogan. Hell, the structures the krogans build in synthesis looks exactly the same as the ones in destroy. So much for homogenization eh?

Oh, and after getting hit by the green space magic, people weren't instantly happy. They were checking themselves out, wondering what happened. Doesn't sound like a zombie to me.

First you are talking about bodies which has nothing to do with what i said, and they do look different as there eyes look green as far as i can tell, if all the different species have green eyes don't you think that spells sameness in some way?
 
If they are not zombies or brainwashed why is there no fights between individuals or some sort of argument, personally i would rather die that become what i see in the synthesis ending.
 
If shepard was going t select the synthesis ending and i was there i would have killed him to stop him.

Really? You're going to use the eyes as evidence? Everyone's eyes glow green therefore everyone's the same? Yeah, that does not follow.

Why don't you see fights in Control? If Wrex is the leader, why don't you see fights in Destroy? Is "zombies" and "brainwashing" the only answer you can come up with, even at the expense of using double standards?

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 22 août 2012 - 10:49 .

[ATiBotka]

MegaSovereign wrote...

PROVE IT.

Does this prove IT?

[MegaSovereign]

Ravensword wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

My reaction to this thread:

Oh my God who the **** cares?

Amirite?

Right

Double Right.

You guys care. 

PROVE IT.

You posted in this thread, therefore you cared. You cared enough to post.

I CRYD EVERYTIEM.

[Jadebaby]

shepdog77 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

@ The Angry One

Since you blocked me I'll have to reply to your message here. It's impossible to argue with you civilly because you believe your opinions to be cold hard facts. It would be more productive to discuss the endings with a boiling tea kettle.

lol as opposed to these other pro-enders debating her?

Everyone has their own opinion about the endings.  Discussing and arguing over opinions is what this forum is for.  

I understand if someone hates it, but going around saying that it being bad is a fact is asinine.

Saying they're bad? Maybe...

Saying they're mediocre? Definitely not, I'd call that a fact.

[ATiBotka]

D24O wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Knock off the personal attacks.

I'm sorry.

I.....surry Spoderman.

Here I am.

[D24O]

Proves IT.

[fchopin]

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Really? You're going to use the eyes as evidence? Everyone's eyes glow green therefore everyone's the same? Yeah, that does not follow.

Why don't you see fights in Control? If Wrex is the leader, why don't you see fights in Destroy? Is "zombies" and "brainwashing" the only answer you can come up with, even at the expense of using double standards?

I have posted different ideas as proof to you and you have not answered any of them, you keep giving me excuses that have nothing to do with my replies so i will take it that you are not interested in an answer.

[Versus Omnibus]

Ravensword wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

My reaction to this thread:

Oh my God who the **** cares?

Amirite?

Right

Double Right.

You guys care. 

PROVE IT.

You posted in this thread, therefore you cared. You cared enough to post.

If people keep belittle me because their headcanon says I'm a monster my care will soon disappear.

[MegaSovereign]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

@ The Angry One

Since you blocked me I'll have to reply to your message here. It's impossible to argue with you civilly because you believe your opinions to be cold hard facts. It would be more productive to discuss the endings with a boiling tea kettle.

lol as opposed to these other pro-enders debating her?

Everyone has their own opinion about the endings.  Discussing and arguing over opinions is what this forum is for.  

I understand if someone hates it, but going around saying that it being bad is a fact is asinine.

Saying they're bad? Maybe...

Saying they're mediocre? Definitely not, I'd call that a fact.

That's still subjective because other people have different tastes on what is mediocre and what isn't.

The only fact here is that nothing is perfect.

[RadicalDisconnect]

fchopin wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Really? You're going to use the eyes as evidence? Everyone's eyes glow green therefore everyone's the same? Yeah, that does not follow.

Why don't you see fights in Control? If Wrex is the leader, why don't you see fights in Destroy? Is "zombies" and "brainwashing" the only answer you can come up with, even at the expense of using double standards?

I have posted different ideas as proof to you and you have not answered any of them, you keep giving me excuses that have nothing to do with my replies so i will take it that you are not interested in an answer.

Oh I'm listening.

Clearly list out your reasons.

You are claiming that everyone in synthesis suddenly likes each other. Want to prove it? If your proof is that you don't see fights and arguments in synthesis slides, then you're just affirming the consequent.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 22 août 2012 - 10:58 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

wow I was sure this would have been locked at page 2.

perhaps I should make a Dear Control one tomorrow.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Yep no one has the right to take away another person right to do anything they want.Besides enacting Martial law and forcing an irrevocable genetic change in someone are two different things.

No, I'm going to press you on this issue. You are claiming that synthesis violates free will by forcing galactic-wide change on everyone. I agree. However, you are also claiming that it removes free will. That is only an interpretation, not fact. This is where I draw the martial law analogy. In addition, there are many things in the synthesis slideshows that don't align with the notion of slavery.

As for genetic change, what is changed? DNA sequence? Gene expression? Nucleotide chemical structure? Without knowing these details, you can't make the absolute claim of slavery, brainwashing, etc.

Yes by the simple fact of Shepard not asking anyone what they would like and doing what he thinks is best you take away there choice in in the process their free will.

It doesn't matter if its a good or bad thing, all that matters is you take away there right to choose and if you don't have the right to choose you are a slave and might as well be dead.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 22 août 2012 - 11:13 .

[saracen16]

AresKeith wrote...

*closes the doors to this thread and wields it shut*

Funny. I thought this was a thread where anti-synthesis trolls could bash synthesis, and now it has turned against you.. and you can't respond. Isn't that ironic?

Modifié par saracen16, 22 août 2012 - 11:14 .

[AresKeith]

saracen16 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

*closes the doors to this thread and wields it shut*

Funny. I thought this was a thread where anti-synthesis trolls could bash synthesis, and now it has turned against you.. and you can't respond. Isn't that ironic?

wow someone's alittle butthurt at the moment

[Versus Omnibus]

DinoSteve wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Yep no one has the right to take away another person right to do anything they want.Besides enacting Martial law and forcing an irrevocable genetic change in someone are two different things.

No, I'm going to press you on this issue. You are claiming that synthesis violates free will by forcing galactic-wide change on everyone. I agree. However, you are also claiming that it removes free will. That is only an interpretation, not fact. This is where I draw the martial law analogy. In addition, there are many things in the synthesis slideshows that don't align with the notion of slavery.

As for genetic change, what is changed? DNA sequence? Gene expression? Nucleotide chemical structure? Without knowing these details, you can't make the absolute claim of slavery, brainwashing, etc.

Yes by the simple fact of Shepard not asking anyone what they would like and doing what he thinks is best you take away there choice in in the process their free will.

It doesn't matter if its a good or bad thing, all that matters is you take away there right to choose and if you don't have the right to choose you are a slave and might as well be dead.

That doesn't take away free-will. What people do with Synthesis after it's been performed is still up to them. Synthesis takes away their choice in that decision, nothing else.

[RadicalDisconnect]

AresKeith wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

*closes the doors to this thread and wields it shut*

Funny. I thought this was a thread where anti-synthesis trolls could bash synthesis, and now it has turned against you.. and you can't respond. Isn't that ironic?

wow someone's alittle butthurt at the moment

How about everyone knock off the personal attacks? It's more than a little aggravating right now.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 22 août 2012 - 11:17 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Yep no one has the right to take away another person right to do anything they want.Besides enacting Martial law and forcing an irrevocable genetic change in someone are two different things.

No, I'm going to press you on this issue. You are claiming that synthesis violates free will by forcing galactic-wide change on everyone. I agree. However, you are also claiming that it removes free will. That is only an interpretation, not fact. This is where I draw the martial law analogy. In addition, there are many things in the synthesis slideshows that don't align with the notion of slavery.

As for genetic change, what is changed? DNA sequence? Gene expression? Nucleotide chemical structure? Without knowing these details, you can't make the absolute claim of slavery, brainwashing, etc.

Yes by the simple fact of Shepard not asking anyone what they would like and doing what he thinks is best you take away there choice in in the process their free will.

It doesn't matter if its a good or bad thing, all that matters is you take away there right to choose and if you don't have the right to choose you are a slave and might as well be dead.

That doesn't take away free-will. What people do with Synthesis after it's been performed is still up to them. Synthesis takes away their choice in that decision, nothing else.

it does because they will never be able to choose again.

[Reorte]

DinoSteve wrote...

Yes by the simple fact of Shepard not asking anyone what they would like and doing what he thinks is best you take away there choice in in the process their free will.

It doesn't matter if its a good or bad thing, all that matters is you take away there right to choose and if you don't have the right to choose you are a slave and might as well be dead.

Er, no. By that argument anyone who's had surgery as an infant has lost their free will. As an adult they may either appreciate that or be left with problems from it but they're not a slave. Perhaps performing said surgery was in no way justifiable and a gross infringement of their rights but it doesn't make them a slave now. I despise Synthesis but I don't like to see things I dislike getting knocked with what seem like invalid arguments.

[AresKeith]

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

*closes the doors to this thread and wields it shut*

Funny. I thought this was a thread where anti-synthesis trolls could bash synthesis, and now it has turned against you.. and you can't respond. Isn't that ironic?

wow someone's alittle butthurt at the moment

How about everyone knock off the personal attacks? It's more than a little aggravating right now.

I'm not trying to attack anyone

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

saracen16 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

*closes the doors to this thread and wields it shut*

Funny. I thought this was a thread where anti-synthesis trolls could bash synthesis, and now it has turned against you.. and you can't respond. Isn't that ironic?

I don't see how it has turned against us, synthesis is still a terrible solution and I still would not want it forced upon me or anyone else.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 22 août 2012 - 11:21 .

[Versus Omnibus]

DinoSteve wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Yep no one has the right to take away another person right to do anything they want.Besides enacting Martial law and forcing an irrevocable genetic change in someone are two different things.

No, I'm going to press you on this issue. You are claiming that synthesis violates free will by forcing galactic-wide change on everyone. I agree. However, you are also claiming that it removes free will. That is only an interpretation, not fact. This is where I draw the martial law analogy. In addition, there are many things in the synthesis slideshows that don't align with the notion of slavery.

As for genetic change, what is changed? DNA sequence? Gene expression? Nucleotide chemical structure? Without knowing these details, you can't make the absolute claim of slavery, brainwashing, etc.

Yes by the simple fact of Shepard not asking anyone what they would like and doing what he thinks is best you take away there choice in in the process their free will.

It doesn't matter if its a good or bad thing, all that matters is you take away there right to choose and if you don't have the right to choose you are a slave and might as well be dead.

That doesn't take away free-will. What people do with Synthesis after it's been performed is still up to them. Synthesis takes away their choice in that decision, nothing else.

it does because they will never be able to choose again.

So if I just ignore one person's choice I took their ability to choose which movie to see? Or what outfit to wear on a date with their loved one? Or which direction in a fork in the road to take?

Unless you can prove that people are indeed mindless slaves, I will consider accusations such as that as nothing more then headcanon.

[Abraham_uk]

Hold on. If a Biotic Shepard had given themselves to synthesis, wouldn't that mean we'd all have biotic powers?

Hell to the yeah!

Okay maybe biotics just isn't in Shepard's DNA. So perhaps an Asari?

Biotics for the win.

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 22 août 2012 - 11:30 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Reorte wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Yes by the simple fact of Shepard not asking anyone what they would like and doing what he thinks is best you take away there choice in in the process their free will.

It doesn't matter if its a good or bad thing, all that matters is you take away there right to choose and if you don't have the right to choose you are a slave and might as well be dead.

Er, no. By that argument anyone who's had surgery as an infant has lost their free will. As an adult they may either appreciate that or be left with problems from it but they're not a slave. Perhaps performing said surgery was in no way justifiable and a gross infringement of their rights but it doesn't make them a slave now. I despise Synthesis but I don't like to see things I dislike getting knocked with what seem like invalid arguments.

Saving to save a child's life is a far different thing than to rewrite a galaxies DNA. Also it is usually the parent who makes that decision, not anyone else and that child may end up a slave to the consequences of that surgery.