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cJohnOne

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He's sort of stuck being a Templar isn't he?

How would he play as a companion?

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Maybe since the Templars have split from the chantry he no longer supports them.

Just a guess lol

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Cullen turned renagade hhhmmmmmmmm. Sounds like he could be a hot bad boy after all. Perfect!!!!!

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Yes that will please his fan girls haha

He would make for an interesting companion in my opinion

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very interesting I'd say.

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Ceron44 wrote...

Maybe since the Templars have split from the chantry he no longer supports them.

Just a guess lol


Essentially this. Cullen was starting to question his dedication to the order in Act 3 of DA2. After Meredith and you made your choice as Hawke Varric makes a mention that the Templars have rebelled against the Chantry to hunt mages. Also Cullen has seen corruption and the true power of mages as well as the dangers of it on more than one occasion. He's no longer obligated to serve the order and is thus free to be a potential companion.

I figure he'd be tired of all of the corruption and try to actively do something to stop all of the fighting because he's not a bad guy and he is reasonable. So joining the next protagonist would be the essential best way to do this. Of course this is all just speculation for ever- wrong forum.

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I agree with your speculation it makes sence.

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It will be interesting to see how he deals with his Lyrium addiction.

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Dragon_Effect 15511 wrote...

It will be interesting to see how he deals with his Lyrium addiction.


This.  Very much.  Cullen would make a fantastic addition to the line up of the next Dragon Age protagonist.  Not only is he part of the ongoing mage/templar/chantry storyline going on in the stories, but he would be the first companion with a real problem (addiction) that can potentially affect his performance in the course of the story.  I would love to see Bioware implement that, especially since they've touched on the issue and shown only peripherally the affects of the addiction and withdrawal (Carroll is one of wardrobe mage's--I forgot his name, but he hides in the wardrobe in the tower during Uldred's rebellion--customers getting extra kick for his addiction, Irminric was deprived of lyrium in Howe's dungeons, the weird templar who should have retired still standing his post at the chantry doors in Denerim).  While the bit with Samson touched on it in a bit more detail, we really don't see more than a strung out addict trying to get enough silver up to get his next fix--and not a very sympathetic character anyway.  All interesting little notes, but nothing making it more than a small side note to the story.  Up to now, Templar PCs and Alistair (or any other companion who picked up the skill set) really didn't have the issues a former templar would.

I would love to see a storyline where the PC helps him deal with his addiction.  Does the protagonist help him kick the habit and potentially lose his templar abilities--templars seem to believe that they will lose their abilities if they don't get their fix, is it a lie or do we learn once they start the lyrium, they really must continue it or face loss of their abilities.  Or find a lyrium source he can use--perpetuating the cycle and keeping his fighting skills sharp?  I'd like to see something where he either faces the lie that he's been told all along, or has to face the loss of his templar skills.

Add to this Cullen is a decent sort who has had to make his own choices after facing the lies he's been indoctrinated with since (most likely birth), and chose the more honorable path despite the things he has been through.  I really have enjoyed his journey since the story began, and he's undergone a lot of character development from the beginning of a mage Warden's story in Origins to the end of DA2 ten years later.  Plus, I'd like to see what (if any) reprisal he got for his insubordination.

His story, even if he's just an NPC you meet/greet and maybe do a quest for next chapter, hasn't ended by any means. 

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Modifié par sylvanaerie, 24 août 2012 - 01:59 .


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I'd happily see his merits any day! Bwahaha!

Modifié par LolaLei, 24 août 2012 - 04:46 .


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Ditto on the above. He has Merrit!!!!!!!!!

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Lot's of Merit lol

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LolaLei wrote...

I'd happily see his merits any day! Bwahaha!


I second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, ∞..... this!!! 

Cullen for Companion/LI FTW!!! 

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On a more serious note though. I'd say he's in the perfect position to become a companion. All the Circles have been abandoned by the mages, and the Templars have gone rogue, so there's no mages for him to guard and I doubt he'd join the rebel Templars since he's so devoted to his belief in the Maker/Andraste and his service to the Chantry.

My theory is that he'll turn up in Orlais to see the Divine, maybe to answer questions surrounding Meredith's demise, or to seek guidance from her and offers to remain loyal to the Chantry... Or if that survey leak is legit, then he's probably part of the peace gathering. There's several ways in which he could be made a companion without it seeming far fetched, it's just up to David Gaider 'n' co to decide whether or not they think he's worthy of a companion slot.

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I think of all the companion ideas I've heard so far, Ser Cullen is the least far-fetched.

Of course lots of players want him as an LI, but even without that he'd be a great stand-alone ally or companion.

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Hmm, seems rather obvious to me since the character's whole central issue is duty to an Order that has recently been thrown into chaos and the future of which has a good chance of featuring prominently in the next game. Indeed, he seems the most natural companion. But, for additional points, greywardens.com has a good article.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 24 août 2012 - 07:46 .


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Who cares? He's cute. :P

On a more serious note, his character can be expand in many ways. He could go the renegade route after learning about the templars' motive or simply just questioning his faith and wanting to know the truth even if he has to go against his group. He could also rise up as a leader trying to resolve the situation.

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I'd kinda like to see Cullen be a complete wreck at the beginning of the next game. Lyrium addicted, disheveled, unwashed, drunk in a dingy brothel with dodgy women all over him, questioning who he really is and whether he's been working with the enemy all along.

Yeah, I think there's some potential there.

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brushyourteeth wrote...

I'd kinda like to see Cullen be a complete wreck at the beginning of the next game. Lyrium addicted, disheveled, unwashed, drunk in a dingy brothel with dodgy women all over him, questioning who he really is and whether he's been working with the enemy all along.

Yeah, I think there's some potential there.

This would be awesome. The protagonist's first companion quest for him would probably be a comprehensive de-lousing, but there's a lot of potential in this idea.

I too support Cullen as a companion. There's a good story there, and the potential for fun interactions with protagonists of every flavor.

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brushyourteeth wrote...

I'd kinda like to see Cullen be a complete wreck at the beginning of the next game. Lyrium addicted, disheveled, unwashed, drunk in a dingy brothel with dodgy women all over him, questioning who he really is and whether he's been working with the enemy all along.

Yeah, I think there's some potential there.


I'm down with that!

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I really enjoy greywarden.com. Looks like I'm the only one on the nay side of Cullen. Not much of a debate since I'm not that chatty. And I can't think of anything. I didn't know the support for Cullen was so wide spread in female circles. ha ha.

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cJohnOne wrote...

I really enjoy greywarden.com. Looks like I'm the only one on the nay side of Cullen. Not much of a debate since I'm not that chatty. And I can't think of anything. I didn't know the support for Cullen was so wide spread in female circles. ha ha.


He's got a good amount of male fans too.

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R2s Muse

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Yeah, sure, he's smokin' hot, but he's also got great potential as a non-LI follower. I reckon he could tank and come with Templar abilities. I just hope he would have a unique skill tree that slightly improves on the DA2 Templar specialty.

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cJohnOne wrote...

He's sort of stuck being a Templar isn't he?

How would he play as a companion?


Well the only merit I have seen from him is..
1) "Mages are weapons".. it has some truth on it if you ask me..:P

Some people like him, I have no problem with him, it will be interesting if he ever visit tevinter and see that the city is ruled by blood mages but  not over run by demons..  that will be a shocking experience for him!
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lol!

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R2s Muse wrote...

Yeah, sure, he's smokin' hot, but he's also got great potential as a non-LI follower...

Ahahah, I can hear the wails of the fangirls/boys now. "Nooo Cullen is finally a companion, but no romance!!"

While I like Brushy's idea of him being a total wreck, I'm not sure if fits with the timeline? We would have to know more about when Cullen actually leaves the order.

Let's see, we have (wiki link)...
The end of Act 3 and the fight with Meredith > 1 year > events in Asunder novel > 2 or so years > seekers go to Kirkwall and talk to Varric (the very end of DA2) > some undetermined time > DA3.

Other than the depression aspect -- which to be honest I think Cullen is a stronger person than that, stronger than Samson at least -- he most likely would have gotten over any withdrawal by the time we meet him in DA3, unless he has just recently left the templar order. Add to that there is the fact that drugs in general, including withdrawal from them, affect everyone differently, and also the idea that some BSN threads have put forth of renegade templars making use of carta dwarves and their lyrium smuggling operations.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 24 août 2012 - 06:17 .