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Ever seen people deliberately avoid helping on objectives?


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#26
kalasaurus

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I never use my mic, but I am tempted to tell the infiltrators that using their cloak while in the escort circle doesn't work. At least they are trying to help. But I have also dealt with RANDOMS who run off during hack or escort objectives, and end up dying.

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UEG Donkey

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Just do the objectives; its one of my five rules of palying with PUGs also never let a PUG pick up the second pizza you'll fail

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RobertM525

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Uchimura wrote...

It's pretty annoying when it ends up doubling the time it takes to get through it.

The added time plus the (admittedly not huge amount of) credits lost from not getting the time bonus.

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I don't understand why people don't help the Hack and the Drone escort on Gold and Platinum. Are they aware that it goes faster if there is 4 players doing the objective?

I play with Adept on platinum and participate of theses missions nonetheless. I just give heads up that will be close to the strongest character, so if I fall, they can revive me without much problem. At least I think it is better than to let then do the objective while I hide in a corner...

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ayume wrote...

I don't understand why people don't help the Hack and the Drone escort on Gold and Platinum. Are they aware that it goes faster if there is 4 players doing the objective?

I am curious about that. If they think it doesn't matter—that it doesn't go faster with more people (and thus award more credits)—then it's somewhat more acceptable. That said, with the VO guy yelling at you the entire time, I don't know how you could.

In the map in question, one had an N7 rating of 118, the other 145. That's newish, but I'm not sure it's new enough to excuse that.

Modifié par RobertM525, 22 août 2012 - 10:30 .


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SectiplaveB4

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On objective waves the faster you get it done the less you have to kill. I do often see people who are obliviously killing things during escort and such but don't seem to be forcefully ignoring them.

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ayume wrote...
I play with Adept on platinum and participate of theses missions nonetheless. I just give heads up that will be close to the strongest character, so if I fall, they can revive me without much problem. At least I think it is better than to let then do the objective while I hide in a corner...


Not to mention, BEs are really helpful if you get swarmed while hacking/escorting. I never play adept, but love stolling alongside a Fury during an escort.

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Kalas321 wrote...

Well it depends on the objective. With the drone I would help more often than not. However, some times it is better to act as the distraction/decoy on the opposite side of the map. I know I hate it when people try to "help" me deactivate the nodes or carry the pizza.


I agree with you on the nodes. If you have an infiltrator set up for duration in the group, that infiltrator should pretty much solo the nodes. Being cloaked doesn't mean much if you're getting pummeled by a prime's heavy weapon while he's shooting at the uncloaked guy standing next to you.

As for the other part, no attack meant on you, but from my own experiences, I don't really buy into the whole "I'm pulling them away from you" thing. Clearing the way or serving as rearguard for a pizza delivery is great, but I've been stuck solo hacking on wave 10 while three other players were running around killing things. The only effect I noticed was that as the enemy was killed, new enemies spawned close to the objective. My shadown was left alone in the hack area to fend off waves of engineers, atlases, phantoms, etc. By the time the hack was done, I was almost out of ammo, had fired three missiles when multiple atlases tried to overrun my position, and had spammed ES like  I've never done before or since.

About 90% of the way through the hack, saw a "teammate" go down just outside the hack circle. I took out the enemy that killed him, then watched with glee from just inside the circle as he bled out just outside the circle. Why? Because screw him. He didn't help me, and the hack was taking long enough already without me leaving the circle too. I got to the hack circle within 10 seconds of the timer starting, and I completed the objective with about a minute left. Anyway, if you could really pull a bunch of enemies away from a hack, that objective shouldn't have been anywhere near as hectic as it was.

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Staying away from the objectives is imho only acceptable if an infiltrator is doing the nodes job or someone is acting as a decoy for the escort or hacking group, leading the mobs around the map without killing them, so they are controlled, but not just respawning... For me, especially the drone escort accross Rio benefits from some sort of decoy...

Modifié par Xa1u5, 22 août 2012 - 10:45 .


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If I see that crap on a Bronze/Silver hack/escort, I stop helping. I'm not going to sit in an objective while some as*hole is out pointwhoring.

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Yes there is a you tuber that refuses to do any objectives. He says doing the objectives makes for poor videos. LOL.. But to each his own.

Modifié par hudder92, 22 août 2012 - 10:48 .


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Usually I bring up the credit bonus for time on the mic and when people don't help after that I instruct the other team mates not to res the person.

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I'll kite banshees away when they loooove me.

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RobertM525

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Lucifuture wrote...

Usually I bring up the credit bonus for time on the mic and when people don't help after that I instruct the other team mates not to res the person.

I swear no one listens when you mention things like this.

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I done it o once. It was the pizza run or that drone one.

Yes I guilty of that.

Whilst three other looking after the drone or the pizza carrier, I shoot and take the heat from them.

Here I am shooting at AI and the other three looking after the drone or the pizza carrier.

It happen on Tuesday night Australian time) in Jade silver against geth.

Yes guilty of that.

I was the Krongan Battlemaster with the shotgun and the heavy pistol at that time. 

Modifié par Gerza71, 23 août 2012 - 02:08 .


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some like to attract the enemies away from the objective you know...

in gold and platinum.. they can get brutal.

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Death8the8Kid8

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I do this if I'm something that can take some punishment, like a Kroguard while hosting. I do this in order to keep some of the bigger things off of you guys so you can get there safely.

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JohnDoe wrote...

some like to attract the enemies away from the objective you know...

in gold and platinum.. they can get brutal.


Not that it matters a whole lot in most cases, because they'll just respawn right next to the hack unless the guy kiting is actively blocking a spawn.

I have yet to play a PUG where the guy herping and derping around outside of the hack zone even knows how the spawns work.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

JohnDoe wrote...

some like to attract the enemies away from the objective you know...

in gold and platinum.. they can get brutal.


Not that it matters a whole lot in most cases, because they'll just respawn right next to the hack unless the guy kiting is actively blocking a spawn.

I have yet to play a PUG where the guy herping and derping around outside of the hack zone even knows how the spawns work.


and?
better to have them respawn constantly in one side and avoid them from swamping the guys hacking or doing objectives..

You dont seem to have encountered a bulk of Primes, pyros  and everything in the same place.. because all guys decided to go to the objetive zone?

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I've seen it happen. It's sad. The only time I'm not by the objective is when I'm protecting with Sniper Support via Infiltrator, and that's only when all other three are at the objective. If I can get a vantage point, I can cover everyone else. But usually, I just use my N7 Hurricane to hold the line!

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Since I play Vanguard a lot (more like the only class I play), I should be suppressing the enemy and let another player do it. But it wouldn't hurt for me to do the objective once in a while.

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nicethugbert wrote...

I do it only to draw the enemy away from the objective. Otherwise I help on the objective.


This. If you're farming, and you see a lvl 20 Demolishor spamming arc grenades at those two Primes stuck in the hallway, that's me. If there's a Novaguard not in the circle with you screaming her head off at a ludicrously overpowered mob, that's me.

I'm also the reason they're not spawning in front of you as you're carrying that piece of Reaper tech back to the LZ. 

Modifié par ParadoxSalem, 23 août 2012 - 02:28 .


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I do. Pizza delivery - It took me three ladder climbs to get rid of that ugly thing on my back and I don't want to see that thing again.

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all the time on bronze and silver... and increasingly worrying amount on gold.

on plat. if they do it they usually end up alone in a area and dead.

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JLoco11

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Depends on the strategy.

If farming in a room with a Decoy, 3 people can do the Escort while the Decoy draws all the enemies (if they come to the room).

But if it's some douche running around avoiding an area upload, they will be kicked in the lobby