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BioWare Critics: What can DA3 specifically do to get you to purchase it?


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Rikku Moon

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Rawgrim wrote...

Statutory rape, like what you do when you romance 12 year old Merrill?


Hey Merril ISN'T 12. *lol* In DA:O, Merril is the like the same age as your Origin Dalish elf, and I think she was supposed to be courting/married to Tamlen when he met his accident at the mirror. In DA:O Merril looked older and more mature than she does in DA2, and even in DA2, if you do a transfer of DA:O where you beat the Dalish Elf Origin, when Hawke first meet Merril she comments that its a been a few YEARS since she saw her Dalish Elf Warden friend,

Merril seems more mature and worldly in DA:O but when they brought the Dalish Elf Origin's clan back in the DA2, they made Merril look younger and more innocent and childish in personality compared to her DA:O self.

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FedericoV

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I'm not the typical DA2 critic. I liked the master plan for DA2 and disliked pretty much everything about the execution. So I started to question even some part of the plan off course but I'm still ambivalent about many aspect of DA2.

Yes, it's that bad, DA2 caused me a bipolar disorder :).

Seriously: to capture my interest, Bioware has only to do two things:

- Scale down to earth all the business and marketing crap. Return to a model between the customer and the developer based on trust, respect and truth (first and foremost).
- Build a big, epic and enthralling game where every feature (gameplay, narrative, art, design, etc.) is in the right place and helps to reinforce the chore experience (whatever they choose it to be). I won't question the single feature. I don't have the technical know how to question a single feature. I will only question its overall and olistic effect on me. Off course, it's hard: but I could appreciate if they try.

We won't have the latter without the former, imho, and I will appreciate and defend even a worst game (by my standards) if I get my dose of trust, respect and truth.

Modifié par FedericoV, 07 septembre 2012 - 12:19 .


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Sylvius the Mad

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Rikku Moon wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Statutory rape, like what you do when you romance 12 year old Merrill?

Hey Merril ISN'T 12. *lol*

And, technically, there would need to be a relevant statute for that to be a problem.

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FedericoV wrote...

- Build a big, epic and enthralling game where every feature (gameplay, narrative, art, design, etc.) is in the right place and helps to reinforce the chore experience.


That's the best freudian slip I've seen on these forums in a long time. ;)

Modifié par Wozearly, 07 septembre 2012 - 11:20 .


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FedericoV

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Wozearly wrote...

FedericoV wrote...

- Build a big, epic and enthralling game where every feature (gameplay, narrative, art, design, etc.) is in the right place and helps to reinforce the chore experience.


That's the best freudian slip I've seen on these forums in a long time. ;)


:D LOL :D

Seriously, it's not a freudian slip: just lack of exercise with english in the last couple of months :).

Modifié par FedericoV, 07 septembre 2012 - 11:44 .


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batlin wrote...

Having Obsidian develop it instead would be a good start.


Then release a game that's buggier than Skyrim and completely cut the back part of the game out. Meaning no real ending.

I liked Alpha Protocol though. But that game was bug riddled beyond belief. KOTOR 2 was also a mess on the final part of the game...

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deuce985 wrote...

batlin wrote...

Having Obsidian develop it instead would be a good start.


Then release a game that's buggier than Skyrim and completely cut the back part of the game out. Meaning no real ending.

I liked Alpha Protocol though. But that game was bug riddled beyond belief. KOTOR 2 was also a mess on the final part of the game...


The only thing Obsidian does right is it can tell a very strong story, even moreso than BioWare at times. 

That said, I don't think they need to pass the torch on Dragon Age like that for now. 

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FedericoV

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deuce985 wrote...

batlin wrote...

Having Obsidian develop it instead would be a good start.


Then release a game that's buggier than Skyrim and completely cut the back part of the game out. Meaning no real ending.

I liked Alpha Protocol though. But that game was bug riddled beyond belief. KOTOR 2 was also a mess on the final part of the game...


I played FO:NV some months post release (I read that the game has a lot of bugs at shipping but my playthrough was nice  and smooth). That game is better than DA2 and ME3, imho.

Mask of the Betrayer is one of the best fantasy game of the last years imho. It's on the same league of DA:O and it's more innovative, creative and progressive.

AP is the classical diamond in the dust: it has a lot of problems in most areas and no one can't deny them. But personally I enjoyed it and I quite never understood all the hate (probably because reading the reviews I expected some unplayable mess while the game was just on the low budget/rushed side).

Honestly, considering the budget, the manpower and the marketing from my limited point of view, Obsidian is doing a lot better than Bioware with the resources at hand.

Then, I agree that it's stupid to call for an Obsidian's DA. Let Obsidian do his things: what I'm waiting for is the spiritual successor to Planescape Torment everyone is talking about.

Modifié par FedericoV, 08 septembre 2012 - 08:35 .