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[Nathanmaxtro]

Sadly my old PS3 that had my Origins save file on it died and I didn't back it up.

From what I'm reading about DA3, there are going to be several plot points that result from decisions made in Origins and DA2.

What would be awesome is to have another comic where you make decisions and that becomes the import file. If that's not possible, a simple questionnaire of every important decision would be good enough. I remember DA2 having like three choices of pre-defined profiles, but that's not quite good enough.

[Emzamination]

I am against such a thing as it will divert people from buying and experiencing the game-play and lore of origins and Da2.It feels more like a cheat sheet to me but I suppose if it was a paid dlc like genesis, I'd be ok with it.

[JasonPogo]

I kinda daubt the game will ship with it. The only real reason Bioware made that avalible on the PS3 copy of ME2 was that you can't get ME1 on the PS3 to import.

[ElitePinecone]

This tweet from Mike Laidlaw is probably relevant to this thread:

Mike Laidlaw wrote:
Something like [a way to pick choices, like ME2's Genesis comic] would be helpful for both new and veteran players, so definitely worth exploring.

[nightscrawl]

ElitePinecone wrote...

This tweet from Mike Laidlaw is probably relevant to this thread:

Mike Laidlaw wrote:
Something like [a way to pick choices, like ME2's Genesis comic] would be helpful for both new and veteran players, so definitely worth exploring.

It would certainly solve some of their import problems.

I would like it because it eliminates the need to play another full DAO/DA2 if I want to try out some different option, for kicks or whatever.

@Emz: I don't think it would discourage people. If a new person plays DA3 and enjoys it, they might want to buy and play the first two games for more Dragon Age content.

I think the best way for new and old players would be to have a more detailed comic-style option picker for the veteran players, in addition to a simple pre-built history like DA2 had: Hero of Ferelden, Martyr, No Compromise. The veteran player can go into more detail since she would know and understand all of the options, and the new player can pick a pre-built history and not be overwhelmed by several choices they won't know or care about.

[zyntifox]

Emzamination wrote...

I am against such a thing as it will divert people from buying and experiencing the game-play and lore of origins and Da2.It feels more like a cheat sheet to me but I suppose if it was a paid dlc like genesis, I'd be ok with it.

Or if it is done right it can promote previous titles. As a PS3 owner i almost bought a Xbox just because i wanted to experience ME1 when i first started playing ME2. First and only time i've doubted my choice of console.

[Giltspur]

Given that the major sales of DAO and DA2 are over, something like this makes sense for new people (or if their games ever have enough variiability to encourage it, older gamers that want to try new permutations of imports).  Also, what about Xbox/PS3 gamers when Dragon Age moves to next gen consoles?  Maybe there's a cloud solution to moving saves from a franchise on one generation of consoles to the next, but I kind of doubt it.  

[zyntifox]

Call me a cynic but I don't think moving saves between consoles is going to be a problem for this franchise.

[Nathanmaxtro]

ElitePinecone wrote...

This tweet from Mike Laidlaw is probably relevant to this thread:

Mike Laidlaw wrote:
Something like [a way to pick choices, like ME2's Genesis comic] would be helpful for both new and veteran players, so definitely worth exploring.

Awesome, thanks for the post.

Good to know that it's being considered.

[Emzamination]

nightscrawl wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

This tweet from Mike Laidlaw is probably relevant to this thread:

Mike Laidlaw wrote:
Something like [a way to pick choices, like ME2's Genesis comic] would be helpful for both new and veteran players, so definitely worth exploring.

It would certainly solve some of their import problems.

I would like it because it eliminates the need to play another full DAO/DA2 if I want to try out some different option, for kicks or whatever.

@Emz: I don't think it would discourage people. If a new person plays DA3 and enjoys it, they might want to buy and play the first two games for more Dragon Age content.

I think the best way for new and old players would be to have a more detailed comic-style option picker for the veteran players, in addition to a simple pre-built history like DA2 had: Hero of Ferelden, Martyr, No Compromise. The veteran player can go into more detail since she would know and understand all of the options, and the new player can pick a pre-built history and not be overwhelmed by several choices they won't know or care about.

That actually sounds interesting, tbh 

[King Cousland]

 I don't have a problem with a Genesis style feature, but I would want some exclusive stuff for people who have played previous games and DLCs. 

[Most Definitely Sane]

I think this would be excellent, especially if they end up having it on next-gen consoles.

[Cribbian]

Would rather just have a checklist than a comic to be honest.

[gangly369]

A checklist would certainly be easier for veteran gamers, but for new people it would be a hindrance as they would have no idea what it was exactly they were picking. A genesis style comic is probably the best option

[Sanunes]

I don't want the games to be tied together like Mass Effect, to me that is what ruined the final game because there was so much hype with how the games were to be tied together to make one long story and well, each game felt independent of one another especially when there is an action in the game for each outcome. Saved the Reaper Queen on Virmire great, but if you didn't here is a clone that the only difference is in a text block. Another example from the same mission, didn't free Grunt from the stasis pod, good choice but here is another generic Krogan leading his team with pretty much the same key interactions.

Now don't get me wrong I understand why this was done, for if they made content exclusive to the players that did certain actions I am pretty sure there would be tar and feather style posts on the boards, but at the same time it really didn't feel like my decisions really mattered either when being imported from previous games.

[Chaos Lord Malek]

It won't happen. I think there will be 2-3 options to chose as past games (like DA2 had), but that's about it. If you want some special events, or unique combinations you had to buy and play previous games.

[CitizenThom]

Nathanmaxtro wrote...

Sadly my old PS3 that had my Origins save file on it died and I didn't back it up.

I feel your pain. BTW, you couldn't back up, because EA had some sort of restriction on copying your save files from Dragon Age: Origins. I had the same thing happen a couple months before Dragon Age 2 came out, but I'd played Origins enough times that I was able to finish the Deep Roads a lot quicker than I had in the past (left it as one of the later quests, and the mobs of dwarves and spiders weren't as overwhelming).

From what I'm reading about DA3, there are going to be several plot points that result from decisions made in Origins and DA2.

What would be awesome is to have another comic where you make decisions and that becomes the import file. If that's not possible, a simple questionnaire of every important decision would be good enough. I remember DA2 having like three choices of pre-defined profiles, but that's not quite good enough.

I too would like to see something like Mass Effect 2 PS3's comic on any game that's referencing a past game. Sure, you have to play the game to get a full feel for past events, but with the comic, you at least get to establish past decisions.

Modifié par CitizenThom, 27 août 2012 - 06:58 .

[Sanunes]

CitizenThom wrote...
From what I'm reading about DA3, there are going to be several plot points that result from decisions made in Origins and DA2.

Yeah, but from my experience with Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3, and Dragon Age 2 those plot points won't have any real impact on the game itself.  Players that are importing won't gain access to special content in the game, all that might happen is there will be a different context to the content presented.

[Emzamination]

simfamSP wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

I am against such a thing as it will divert people from buying and experiencing the game-play and lore of origins and Da2.It feels more like a cheat sheet to me but I suppose if it was a paid dlc like genesis, I'd be ok with it.

Because replaying a game due to crappy import bugs is alot more fun!

But you do have a point. That's why I think there should be a "choice map" in which the player decides what the previous game did without going through the main quest.

I can sympathize 'now' with those who had import bugs but the problem is not universal.I played Da2 unpatched on 360 during release and have never expierenced a bugged import flag.

[CitizenThom]

Sanunes wrote...

CitizenThom wrote...
From what I'm reading about DA3, there are going to be several plot points that result from decisions made in Origins and DA2.

Yeah, but from my experience with Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3, and Dragon Age 2 those plot points won't have any real impact on the game itself.  Players that are importing won't gain access to special content in the game, all that might happen is there will be a different context to the content presented.

I agree that this issue (nothing really mattering with regards to past choices) is something they need to address. Replayability is always a nice feature for a game, and if all roads come off feeling more or less the same, then the replayability just isn't there.

[KendallX23]

i certainly want one..as i lost my origin saves...and the da2 saves besides my main origin one...are pre chosen by default...so something like the me2 console opening would be very good

[LinksOcarina]

I guess its a good idea for people who lost saves...