[quote]The Angry One wrote...
You are responsible for letting this cycle continue.[/quote]
Yes, they went to Earth to win. Not capitulate to the Reapers. Not to trade our liberty for safety.[/quote]
And not just to win, but to win with the Crucible: there was a reason Sword, Shield, and Hammer were devised the way they were, to deliver the Crucible and bring the cycle to an end. And please, spare me the archaic Thomas Jefferson semantics. Not everyone believes in such idealism.
[quote]Not to tell the Reapers everything they did was okay and justified.[/quote]
So, who justifies the Reapers more, the ones who let the cycle continue or the ones who end the cycle? I'll answer for you: it's definitely not the former.
[quote]We choose to fight. The Catalyst is responsible for it's own crimes.[/quote]
With this type of thinking, you can never be a leader. A leader must be flexible and consider the options, no matter how heinous they appear to be. Emotion will only be your downfall. The Creators are responsible for the Catalyst, but punishment is long gone and long overdue. This is not a machine with a malevolent end-goal. This a machine with a logic loop, and as such can not be held responsible if it doesn't see beyond the goal it has set for itself.
[quote]Yes. There are all the socities in the galaxy. So who are you to homogenise them? What makes them "ready"?[/quote]
They're not "homogenized". They are changed at the fundamental level, but krogans, asari, turians, etc. all retain their individuality and characteristics. To homogenize them fully would mean to have a similar baseline to begin with, which is definitely not the case. By and large, implementing synthesis has greater benefits to this cycle than it has costs regardless of the presence of primitive societies, who can also adapt then integrate.
[quote]Has nothing to do with this.[/quote]
It has everything to do with it.
[quote]Says common sense. They are one species. Technically. At that point, you're dealing with one individual.
By their unique nature, she represents an entire species. But the impact is nowhere near the same.[/quote]
So saving the Rachni queen doesn't mean that the Rachni will flourish into a civilization and potentially go to war or make peace with others? That, by definition, is the butterfly effect, and every decision you make has an impact on the future of the galaxy. Sure, the impact may not be the same, but it's still equally as important.
[quote]Appeals to probability mean nothing here.[/quote]
Appeal to probability? This is how life works. This is Chaos Theory. You make small decisions that cascade into big decisions, and every little thing has a big impact and makes a difference. There is nothing that is due to chance and chance alone.
And now you're going to tell me that I am not responsible for my own decisions.
[quote]The Rachni may potentially have an impact, but they're still only one species.[/quote]
It may not matter to you, but it would matter to the species still there. The fact that rachni ships were sighted in ME2 if you chose to save her already put many people into panic mode. The same goes for saving or sacrificing the council, or saving Thane in the suicide mission.
[quote]By the way, Shepard is criticised for making such a unilateral decision. Just for that.[/quote]
You're making a strawman. Whether Shepard is criticized or not is irrelevant: he made that choice. The same goes for saving or sacrificing the council: he has no time to call for an expert opinion to make that decision. He is in a position to help and implement that decision. The same goes for Shiala and Zhu's Hope. He would be further admonished if he didn't make that decision because he was not in a position to do so. What if Shepard wanted to let the Rachni go regardless of the council?
I'll say it again: do not dare belittle the impact a little choice can have.
[quote]Because they are interfacing with technology and are therefore ready with the changes that come with full integration? Never mind that like I said before, the Zha'til were slaves while those of this cycle who have augmented tech are actually themselves and successfully integrating tech to improve life as it is.[/quote]
[quote]Then the Zha'til count. Also, again, the Reapers enslaved them. They were free before.[/quote]
But they weren't at integration. That's the point I am making: organics have more control over technology in this cycle than the Zha ever did with the Zha'til.
[quote]Due to indoctrinated agents, sure. But again, what about the ones who, if you think organics designed the Crucible, would've HAD to have met the Catalyst. This is not up for debate.[/quote]
Pfft, says you (rolls eyes again). You have the gall to say "this is not up for debate", proving once again that you are the one shoving so-called "facts" into our face. According to Vendetta, the Crucible design spanned several cycles, and was an effort by various races. It was not known when the Catalyst was incorporated into its design, but it's apparent that the Catalyst had no involvement himself: "clearly, organics are more resourceful than we imagined."
[quote]If organics designed the Crucible alone, then SOMEBODY knew about the Catalyst enough to alter it.[/quote]
"The Catalyst is the Citadel". No one knew that the Catalyst AI and the Citadel were one and the same. Even Shepard, "I thought the Citadel was the Catalyst", makes that apparent. They knew that they needed the Reapers' tech (the Citadel that controls the mass relay network and itself is a mass relay) to turn the tide against them, hence why the Crucible itself is an unconventional weapon: it is a weapon that is used to defeat all Reapers and levels the playing field.
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