[quote]saracen16 wrote...
And not just to win, but to win with the Crucible: there was a reason Sword, Shield, and Hammer were devised the way they were, to deliver the Crucible and bring the cycle to an end. [/quote]
Why do you keep forgetting that nobody was aware of the Crucible's true nature at that time?
As far as they knew it was an anti-Reaper weapon.
[quote]And please, spare me the archaic Thomas Jefferson semantics. Not everyone believes in such idealism.[/quote]
Not everyone believes in being turned into a new type of cyborg either.
[quote]So, who justifies the Reapers more, the ones who let the cycle continue or the ones who end the cycle? I'll answer for you: it's definitely not the former.[/quote]
Again, Shepard does not let anything continue. Shepard fights to stop it.
[quote]With this type of thinking, you can never be a leader. A leader must be flexible and consider the options, no matter how heinous they appear to be. Emotion will only be your downfall. The Creators are responsible for the Catalyst, but punishment is long gone and long overdue. This is not a machine with a malevolent end-goal. This a machine with a logic loop, and as such can not be held responsible if it doesn't see beyond the goal it has set for itself.[/quote]
Again with the headcanon. The Catalyst is a sentient being and responsible for it's own actions.
It and it alone continues the cycle, not Shepard.[quote]They're not "homogenized". They are changed at the fundamental level, but krogans, asari, turians, etc. all retain their individuality and characteristics. To homogenize them fully would mean to have a similar baseline to begin with, which is definitely not the case. By and large, implementing synthesis has greater benefits to this cycle than it has costs regardless of the presence of primitive societies, who can also adapt then integrate.
[/quote]Oh sure, as long as they're all part synthetics. Hence, homogenity. Nobody can be left out. Nobody can be different.
[quote]It has everything to do with it.[/quote]
It's two different things. So no.
[quote]So saving the Rachni queen doesn't mean that the Rachni will flourish into a civilization and potentially go to war or make peace with others? That, by definition, is the butterfly effect, and every decision you make has an impact on the future of the galaxy. Sure, the impact may not be the same, but it's still equally as important.[/quote]
Potentially. But I don't deal in appeals to probability. In the here and now, the Rachni are affecting and changing nothing because they're already dead.
[quote]Appeal to probability? This is how life works. This is Chaos Theory. You make small decisions that cascade into big decisions, and every little thing has a big impact and makes a difference. There is nothing that is due to chance and chance alone.[/quote]
Which STILL isn't even a tenth of the magnitude of synthesis.
[quote]And now you're going to tell me that I am not responsible for my own decisions.[/quote]
Say what?
[quote]It may not matter to you, but it would matter to the species still there. The fact that rachni ships were sighted in ME2 if you chose to save her already put many people into panic mode. The same goes for saving or sacrificing the council, or saving Thane in the suicide mission.[/quote]
And since you love metagaming, you should know that this amounted to exactly nothing.
[quote]You're making a strawman. Whether Shepard is criticized or not is irrelevant: he made that choice. The same goes for saving or sacrificing the council: he has no time to call for an expert opinion to make that decision. He is in a position to help and implement that decision. The same goes for Shiala and Zhu's Hope. He would be further admonished if he didn't make that decision because he was not in a position to do so. What if Shepard wanted to let the Rachni go regardless of the council?[/quote]
How is that a strawman? My point is that this decision was criticised, because the Council thought that Shepard, Spectre or no, was no one to make such a decision.
[quote]I'll say it again: do not dare belittle the impact a little choice can have.[/quote]
And I will say this again. You have no sense of scale or relativity.
[quote]But they weren't at integration. That's the point I am making: organics have more control over technology in this cycle than the Zha ever did with the Zha'til.[/quote]
What? How is directly integrating AIs with your own brain less than this cycle?
[qupte]Pfft, says you (rolls eyes again). You have the gall to say "this is not up for debate", proving once again that you are the one shoving so-called "facts" into our face. According to Vendetta, the Crucible design spanned several cycles, and was an effort by various races. It was not known when the Catalyst was incorporated into its design, but it's apparent that the Catalyst had no involvement himself: "clearly, organics are more resourceful than we imagined."[/quote]
Oh come on. Use common sense. If you think the Crucible is in fact more than a power source, was designed by organics and carries these functions.. how does the Catalyst know about it? How does it "change" it?
Organics designing the Crucible to do this without knowing about the Catalyst would be like someone designing an addon for your computer that interfaces with it's OS without knowing what that OS is. Yeah good luck with that.
[quote]"The Catalyst is the Citadel". No one knew that the Catalyst AI and the Citadel were one and the same. Even Shepard, "I thought the Citadel was the Catalyst", makes that apparent. They knew that they needed the Reapers' tech (the Citadel that controls the mass relay network and itself is a mass relay) to turn the tide against them, hence why the Crucible itself is an unconventional weapon: it is a weapon that is used to defeat all Reapers and levels the playing field.[/quote]
See above. If the Crucible does change the Catalyst, then organics knew about it. If it doesn't, then the Catalyst already knew about it's functions and hence it or it's creators designed it in the first place.
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