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[Das Tentakel]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

The Free Marches were suppose to be German? Wow. That passed me by completely. You know, it went right over my head.

That would explain placenames like Kirkwall.

Oh, wait...<_<

[nightscrawl]

Vox Draco wrote...

I liked Leliana's voice a lot

Me too.

I somehow doubt that all of the Orlesians are going to sound like Baron Arlange.

[Das Tentakel]

Several of the 'Orlesian' voice actors in DA:O and DA2 were not French or native-speakers of French.
Some were, of course. As for Duke Prosper, although the actor is French (at least by origin, he apparently does commercial work in which it is sometimes useful to have somebody with a ‘typical’ accent) it is very likely the accent was exaggerated for comic effect. By way of comparison, I’ve seen a short interview with the actor who voiced Riordan, and his English is better and less accented than in DA:O.
I do have a number of French and Walloon friends and acquaintances, and generally if their English language skills are good their accents will be relatively slight, can even be considered pleasant.

Done right, a French accent can even be imposing and ‘fit for an Orlesian Emperor’.

www.youtube.com/watch

[saMoorai]

Personally, I'd like to play a character from Ferelden again, maybe Antiva

Though I'll be fine with Orlais

[Corto81]

Either have them speak "normal" English or have them speak French.

There is no reason why people in Orlais (France) would speak English with a French accent amongst themselves.

[Arcadian Legend]

Wouldn't The Warden Comnander (if your original PC died killing the Archdemon) have been an Orlesian? Just a thought.

[nightscrawl]

Corto81 wrote...

There is no reason why people in Orlais (France) would speak English with a French accent amongst themselves.

True, but there are different accents within languages, and it's also a common device in various entertainment for immersion.

I think it's best (in a movie) if you have a transition scene for the actual language to an accented English. Two great examples are in Judgement at Nuremberg and The Hunt for Red October. In both of those there is a zoom effect that the director uses to focus the viewers' attention on the mouth/speech so when the transition is made it's plain that the character is still speaking the language, but we are only hearing English for our benefit. Judgement is especially well done as the people during the courtroom scenes are seen to still be holding the translation earphones, even though we are hearing everyone speaking English.

[MichaelStuart]

I would love the PC to have a Orlesian accent.
Really, I would happy if they used any accent that's not English sounding.
I'm just so bored of everyone using the same type of English accent in every fantasy game/film.

Modifié par MichaelStuart, 24 août 2012 - 11:10 .

[thats1evildude]

Das Tentakel wrote...

Done right, a French accent can even be imposing and ‘fit for an Orlesian Emperor’.

www.youtube.com/watch

It's really weird to hear Hubert's voice coming out of Napolean's mouth.

[C9316]

I just hate the bad ones. *glares at Isolde and Marjolaine*

[Das Tentakel]

thats1evildude wrote...

Das Tentakel wrote...

Done right, a French accent can even be imposing and ‘fit for an Orlesian Emperor’.

www.youtube.com/watch

It's really weird to hear Hubert's voice coming out of Napolean's mouth.

I've heard Stephane Cornicard speak English almost without an accent. It's a bit more pronounced here, almost certainly deliberately. And probably kind of ironic, as I seem to remember reading that Napoleon spoke French with a noticeable Italian accent all his life.

As for Marjolaine and Isolde, yeah, that was an American voice actress, Kath Soucie, a born New Yorker...

I think that what we hear in DA:O and DA2 are non-Francophone actors mimicking an exaggerated French accent, and French actors doing the same. Call it Pepe le Pew syndrome (though Pepe's not so bad, I guess, and based on Maurice Chevalier's trademark film accent).
Or maybe 'Allo 'allo syndrome...

Modifié par Das Tentakel, 24 août 2012 - 04:44 .

[Das Tentakel]

As an aside, I think it would actually be cool if they did use French, in the same way as they use Italian in the Assassin's Creed games with Ezio. As long as the things you need to hear are spoken in perfect, if slightly accented English.

Modifié par Das Tentakel, 24 août 2012 - 04:45 .

[VanishedFaces]

I love the use of Italian in Assasins's Creed. Just the perfect smattering of it within the English dialogue. Even not knowing Italian, I could still really get the gist of what they were saying. It was really well done.

[ScotGaymer]

C9316 wrote...

I just hate the bad ones. *glares at Isolde and Marjolaine*

"Ooo is dis mahn Teaghan!?" Is the best line in DAO. Bar None.

I busted a gut laughing when she said that.


EDIT:
RE: Free Marches = Germany...

This is partly true. The Free Marches were inspired by the old Germanic/Italian/Holy Roman principalities and city states. Genoa, Venice, and the Hanse are examples.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 24 août 2012 - 05:00 .

[Das Tentakel]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

C9316 wrote...

I just hate the bad ones. *glares at Isolde and Marjolaine*

"Ooo is dis mahn Teaghan!?" Is the best line in DAO. Bar None.

I busted a gut laughing when she said that.


EDIT:
RE: Free Marches = Germany...

This is partly true. The Free Marches were inspired by the old Germanic/Italian/Holy Roman principalities and city states. Genoa, Venice, and the Hanse are examples.

I am from one of those places (a hanseatic city-state), and Kirkwall could have fooled me.
Oh, wait, it didn't...

Seriously, they are just a bunch of ill-defined generic fantasy city-states of the kind you can find in a gazillion fantasy settings. In fact, I barely recognised Kirkwall as a city, let alone a state.  Lastly, two words: 'Sword Coast'.

[Dutchess]

They didn't bother to give the Free Marches a distinct accent, so we could do without in the next game as well. I suppose a subtle French accent would not be so bad, like with Riordan, but so far most Orlesians I have seen were supposed to be ridiculous and over-the-top, and therefore I am not looking forward to a game with a lot more of them. Sure, there will be more normal Orlesians then. But because of the large idiocy Bioware has added to the Orlesians in the previous two games, I find it difficult to look forward to. It's harder to take it serious.

[ScotGaymer]

Das Tentakel wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

C9316 wrote...

I just hate the bad ones. *glares at Isolde and Marjolaine*

"Ooo is dis mahn Teaghan!?" Is the best line in DAO. Bar None.

I busted a gut laughing when she said that.


EDIT:
RE: Free Marches = Germany...

This is partly true. The Free Marches were inspired by the old Germanic/Italian/Holy Roman principalities and city states. Genoa, Venice, and the Hanse are examples.

I am from one of those places (a hanseatic city-state), and Kirkwall could have fooled me.
Oh, wait, it didn't...

Seriously, they are just a bunch of ill-defined generic fantasy city-states of the kind you can find in a gazillion fantasy settings. In fact, I barely recognised Kirkwall as a city, let alone a state.  Lastly, two words: 'Sword Coast'.

Not disagreeing that Kirkwall lacked the personality that the Hanseatic League had man.

In complete agreement with you there. But it don't mean that the original inspiration wasn't the Hanse; it just means that they failed at translating that unique and interesting history that the North German and Italian city states, and leagues had into the Dragon Age universe.

One more thing Bioware failed at recently lol.

EDIT:
Bioware, learn the difference between Irish and Welsh accents for DA3 please!

And please make sure you correctly translate a non grating french accent into the game also for the Orlesians.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 25 août 2012 - 12:28 .

[Olmerto]

Just to weigh in on this matter, I'm playing Origins again at the moment so the french voices are fresh in my mind. So far I recall three characters with french accents: Leliana, Isolde and Marjolaine.

In my opinion, Leliana and Isolde have appealing voices to me, clearly do not grate, and sound like natural french speakers who are speaking english.

On the other hand, Marjolaine sounds terrible to me. I don't know anything about her voice actress, but her accent sounds exaggerated and grating, like she is a natural english speaker trying to immitate a french accent. My apologies to her if I am mistaken.

I would advise Bioware to go to the trouble of finding natural french speakers to voice Orlesian characters, because it seems like it's the immitations that overdo it and produce aggravating voices.

[FaWa]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

C9316 wrote...

I just hate the bad ones. *glares at Isolde and Marjolaine*

"Ooo is dis mahn Teaghan!?" Is the best line in DAO. Bar None.

 

[Xilizhra]

By the way: Have we ever heard anything in the Orlesian language, or even had it mentioned that it exists? Because I kind of suspect that they speak English in Orlais too, just with a different accent.

[Direwolf0294]

If the game is set in Orlais, I really hope our character has an Orlesian/French accent. After all the games I've played where my character's had an American or English accent it would be nice to play as something different for once.

[Wrathion]

I was thinking..."French" but after reading your response sjpelkessjpeler It made me realize that unlike other characters that speak different languages (Fenris, Zevran, Merrill). Orlesians never throw out gratuitous bits of their language when speaking.
I like they way they speak so it wouldn't a problem if "English" was it.