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The Destroyer CAN kill an atlas in 1 Magazine still. (PC only? Extended mags bugged?!?!)


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Rokayt

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Video Proof.
Second video proof.


Notice the following:
The ammo counter has 134 bullets in it. So all my magazine inflation crap that I used in my other thread... Isn't even necessary.

The Loadout

AbhijitSM wrote...

Setup is as follows :
Devastator mode is specced for 30% weapon damage , ROF & accuracy bonuses
T5-V battlesuit all specced for weapon damage - 27.50%
Consumables/Gear used : AP ammo 3, Assault rifle rail amp 3, Assault rifle amp gear V
Weapon mods used : Stability mod V + Extended barrel V


Notice the following:
The Typhoon was hipfired: On classes that have accuracy bonuses, the Revenant is far more accurate when hipfired. It only makes sense that you would waste fewer Typhoon bullets this way as well.

He was firing the Typhoon at the window at a sharp upward angle.

The Atlas died 6 seconds after the Typhoon opened fire on it.
The Fastest recorded Killing of an atlas with the Pirhana is 10 seconds, with a GI and two proxys on the atlas.

But Wait, Rokayt, Didn't you say we would need to NOT take the ROF evolution, and equip a magazine upgrade to do this?


Well... That combo should do it without AP ammo, due to you getting as many bullets as Abjihit effectively used. If you do not feel like using an AP III (People have reported AP IV not working on the Typhoon. I don't see why this would be the case... But take it at face value, beause, hell... I cant investigate it,) every time you want to kill an atlas, go with the big ammo Typhoon, or the Typhoon with AP ammo..

So... What happened?

Did you notice how I told you to notice that he was firing at the window at a sharp upwards angle?
Hitting an atlas with a high penetration weapon like this (1.25 meters, in this case) will cause your bullet to hit twice, doing 170% damage.

This is most noticable when the big guy is still shielded... Because the shield getting hit sound plays twice per bullet. (At least with the Raptor. The Typhoon firing twice as fast as the raptor did already... Might not be as noticable.)

Back in the good old days, I was exploiting this with the Raptor to take out gold atlases in 15 seconds.... and top every (Non Legion effect) scoreboard I entered for almost a month.

The Glitch was supposedly fixed by a patch, and when hosting Abhijid couldn't 1 mag atlases. This seems to imply that the glitch was fixed for the host.
However, the atlas was left within 10 bullets of dieing. Hat Abhijit specced into ammo capacity in his Devestator mode, he would have killed it in that  magazine.

However, Off host, the atlases died before he emptyed the magazine, and I heard ultra rapid glass sounds.

However, People who are not on the PC have complained of difficulty recreating the glitch.

Cant I just use the AP mod?
Several people have complained of a glitch involving the AP mod breaking some of the Typhoons damage bonuses.
I have counted at least 3 credable sources on this.
However, I cannot say for certain this isn't a freak occurance.

So use the AP mod at your own risk. ^_^

So we are safe from glitches if we don't use the AP mod, right?

I cannot Guarentee it.

You may loose your damage bonuses anyhow.
This gun is that glitched, from what I have heard.

But..... What If I do go for the longest magazines possible?
Well.... You aughta be fine.
Most people go ROF on devistator mode.
This cheats them 25 rounds off their magazine.
With the magazine upgrade + 80 rounds.... This should give 240, but there has been nobody willing enough to record footage of the destroyer with something other then the ROF evolution.

With 240 rounds, and no ammo powers, You should be capable of 60000 damage per magazine. (52462 if every last bullet hits armor, without ap ammo.)
However, this gun is glitched to all hell. So there is a good chance this might not happen.

In Fact, The Typhoon X, with an AR 3, Densified ammo 4-5, and AP  ammo 3 on a max damage destroyer should get a rounds to kill on a gold atlas of 156. Without the double hit glitch.

The Typhoon I, with the same loadout, should need 196 rounds to kill a gold atlas, and 245 rounds to kill a platinum atlas.

The Typhoon X on a platinum atlas shoul need 195 rounds to kill with this loadout.


Reduce all shots to kill by 40% when playing off host, as the glitch will let you ride the lead wall of pain....

Other Videos:

Atlas kill attempt on host, with AP mod.
Do note: People have complained about the atlas doing greatly reduced, or inconsistant damage with the AP mod equipped... I feel it needs more testing, but testing takes time to schedual, especially when your testing partners timezone is 12 hours off your own.

Atlas kill attempt on host, with extended magazines.
Do note: Didn't it do less damage then any of the other videos?!?!?
Thank you death.... Me and Abhijit might need to test that extended magazine mod....
It looks like it could reduce this things damage as well....
Sounds problematic.

Atlas kill attempt on console, exact same loadouts.
Thank you Ryoldschool.
So apparently.... The console doesn't have the glitch on it.

Modifié par Rokayt, 24 août 2012 - 09:16 .


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Beerfish

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Impressive video clip.

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UnknownMercenary

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He's also got a Typhoon X...

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If the ap-mod news is true... no wonder I feel like Typhoon does crap damage on Silver (compaired to Harrier 7 I got and Piranha 10).

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Rokayt

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UnknownMercenary wrote...

He's also got a Typhoon X...


This is a good 20% damage bonus, I will admit.

But replacing the ROF evolution with the Magazine size evolution should give you enough ammo to kill an atlas without reloading.

I personally cannot test this.

However, if it doesnt, replacing the stability mod with a magazine upgrade might be enough.
However, you might need to load it with 1000 points more practice and skill then you needed before.

Arppis wrote...

If the ap-mod news is true... no wonder I
feel like Typhoon does crap damage on Silver (compaired to Harrier 7 I
got and Piranha 10).


After both of its damage multipliers, it should do nearly Harrier damage.
(However, the other big atlas thread has better data on the multipliers at the moment.)

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 08:41 .


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Lord Graal

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Now if only I had a Typhoon X....


Or even a Typhoon.

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Arppis

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Lord Graal wrote...

Now if only I had a Typhoon X....


Or even a Typhoon.


For some reason, it just doesn't seem to cut it, even on Silver. I can play with it, but it just... well enemies take a lot of bullets.

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Yeah, if I could just get a single Typhoon.

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Micah3sixty wrote...

Yeah, if I could just get a single Typhoon.


Funny enough. I hear you. :lol:

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that means nothing
you can't do that in platinum

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RKOLK wrote...

that means nothing
you can't do that in platinum


Platinum atlases have 20% more health.

We can take the videos build, and nearly double the Typhoons magazine.

Sure, it will take 40% longer. (Read, 8 seconds.)

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 08:47 .


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RKOLK wrote...

that means nothing
you can't do that in platinum


It means something to people who play on gold, you know?

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ZombieGambit

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I was about to say...

I have a Typhoon I and it takes 2 mags to kill an Atlas with all the same equipment and Densified Ammo V.

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cronosfire

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hey look another pc video i have yet to see this on a platform hmmm wonder y

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cronosfire wrote...

hey look another pc video i have yet to see this on a platform hmmm wonder y


While I regularly open up coalesced bin with a No-Edit Reader....

I doubt Abhijit is a modder.

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So umm you have to get the Atlas at crazy angles to do this ie. its only applicable on specific maps and such?

Uh yeah, that's a glitch and the gun still sucks big time then. So you can do this with other guns too (exploit glitch) with far better results!

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cronosfire wrote...

hey look another pc video i have yet to see this on a platform hmmm wonder y


Because not all of us play ME3 multiplayer real good to compensate for something.

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neteng101 wrote...

So umm you have to get the Atlas at crazy angles to do this ie. its only applicable on specific maps and such?

Uh yeah, that's a glitch and the gun still sucks big time then. So you can do this with other guns too (exploit glitch) with far better results!


You will still need to reload with almost every other weapon. -_-

I have performed atlas kills with this glitch (With the Raptor) on almost every map, standing on even ground.


It is easily performed.

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Rokayt wrote...

cronosfire wrote...

hey look another pc video i have yet to see this on a platform hmmm wonder y


While I regularly open up coalesced bin with a No-Edit Reader....

I doubt Abhijit is a modder.


all
im saying is i almost never see a platform person have a level 10 typhoon..... and ive spent over 200 million credits and i have a level 3

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I'm having a difficult time using the typhoon x( because of its recoil. Whenever I get annoyed by its recoil, I just spin around and shoot everything on sight.

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cronosfire wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

cronosfire wrote...

hey look another pc video i have yet to see this on a platform hmmm wonder y


While I regularly open up coalesced bin with a No-Edit Reader....

I doubt Abhijit is a modder.


all
im saying is i almost never see a platform person have a level 10 typhoon..... and ive spent over 200 million credits and i have a level 3


Whelp.
What can I say about the RNG, Our freinds playing habits, and blah blah blah?

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I'm going to try to replicate on Xbox tonight. I think that double hit glitch explains why I've not been able to take out an atlas in one clip on gold. I will try the same set up as in the video, and he did a great job providing the video .

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Is the glitch PC only then?

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Interesting. Seems they only mitigated, but didn't remove entirely, the "two-hit Atlas" bug. They obviously got it for normal angles, because SRs were the problem back then.

Sort of dangerous to try this now (sharp upward angle == CLOSE), but props for finding it out.

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neteng101 wrote...

Is the glitch PC only then?


Hitbox glitches sound like a very strange thing to be PC only.

Ryoldschool was using it with Warp/Incindiary ammo, from what I have heard.