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[Rokayt]

UserUnknown85 wrote...

Well, it certainly doesn't work with any other weapon... Also, the typhoon in the video is barely shooting at the canopy about half the time... I doubt the atlases' canopy is the issue here...

This just highlights where the damage blocking hitbox is, and what you need to do to miss it.

The Double damage zone has been reduced to the area around the bottom of the canopy (And below it!)
Not totally removed.

AbhijitSM wrote...

Yes...i was on glacier gold just
sometime ago & i am not sure but somewhat certain that i was the
only one shooting at the atlas. I fired at its metal legs & it was
left with 4-5 bars of armor.  Will see if i can get a more perfect 
situation.

Also if this is a "glitch" & will be fixed then
does it mean that the typhoon needs a small buff. I can certainly tell
you as i stated before that if i keep my setup the same & swap AP
ammo with Incendiary/Warp ammo 3 or 4 it still does not kill a gold
atlas in a single clip.

^^ Here is my evidence, for now.

I am Pro-Typhoon buff, Do note.

I just value winning an arguement over its capabilities far more then I should.

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 09:32 .

[Pedactor]

Abraham_uk wrote...

I want that class and that weapon so badly now.

That video is using a Typhoon X and may be exploiting a double shot glitch involving AP Ammo and the Typhoon.  Knowingly doing so is against the ToS from my understanding.

The Destroyer is great, but don't be sad about not having a Typhoon.  It's not a very good weapon at all anymore.  Not even close.  It needs a buff.  25% added to its modifier at ramp-up, and I'm not even sure that will remedy what ails it:

It sucks against Health.

[Rokayt]

Pedactor wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

I want that class and that weapon so badly now.

That video is using a Typhoon X and may be exploiting a double shot glitch involving AP Ammo and the Typhoon.  Knowingly doing so is against the ToS from my understanding.

The Destroyer is great, but don't be sad about not having a Typhoon.  It's not a very good weapon at all anymore.  Not even close.  It needs a buff.  25% added to its modifier at ramp-up, and I'm not even sure that will remedy what ails it:

It sucks against Health.

He didn't conciously exploit it.

He kinda just..... Axidentally exploited it.
IT took me axidentally recognize it for it to actually have been identified.

However, The Vorcha Reegar glitch was classified as a "class four" offense, something that isn't banable.

I am sure that a glitch that can be axidentally exploited is just as tame in biowares eyes.

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 09:35 .

[OrcStache98]

Ruh roh.

[Asebstos]

Pedactor wrote...

That video is using a Typhoon X and may be exploiting a double shot glitch involving AP Ammo and the Typhoon.  Knowingly doing so is against the ToS from my understanding.

Its against the TOS to fire at an Atlas' canopy with a weapon with high piercing? Yeah... not believing that.



Edit: Also, can someone explain why people are judging this weapon by if it can kill an Atlas in less than a full clip or in under 10 seconds? Are weapons that can't do that "garbage" now?

Modifié par Asebstos, 23 août 2012 - 09:45 .

[Rokayt]

Asebstos wrote...

Pedactor wrote...

That video is using a Typhoon X and may be exploiting a double shot glitch involving AP Ammo and the Typhoon.  Knowingly doing so is against the ToS from my understanding.

Its against the TOS to fire at an Atlas' canopy with a weapon with high piercing? Yeah... not believing that.



Edit: Also, can someone explain why people are judging this weapon by if it can kill an Atlas in less than a full clip or in under 10 seconds? Are weapons that can't do that "garbage" now?

No.
Its amazing that it can do both.

I don't see what the people argueing with me are trying to proove.

OrcStache98 wrote...

Ruh roh.

Indeed.

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 09:51 .

[AbhijitSM]

Rokayt wrote...

Pedactor wrote...

Abraham_uk wrote...

I want that class and that weapon so badly now.

That video is using a Typhoon X and may be exploiting a double shot glitch involving AP Ammo and the Typhoon.  Knowingly doing so is against the ToS from my understanding.

The Destroyer is great, but don't be sad about not having a Typhoon.  It's not a very good weapon at all anymore.  Not even close.  It needs a buff.  25% added to its modifier at ramp-up, and I'm not even sure that will remedy what ails it:

It sucks against Health.

He didn't conciously exploit it.

He kinda just..... Axidentally exploited it.
IT took me axidentally recognize it for it to actually have been identified.

However, The Vorcha Reegar glitch was classified as a "class four" offense, something that isn't banable.

I am sure that a glitch that can be axidentally exploited is just as tame in biowares eyes.

Lol...if its against the TOS then i dont think i will be using the AP ammo anymore on it as i now know that it is a glitch. Well back to incendiary or warp ammo i suppose with the typhoon.

But then this pop's up a lot of questions. I also use a kroguard with reegar with ap ammo on it as the damage vs armor on that gun is pretty garbage. So if i use any setup against cerberus atlas with ap ammo equipped then i am going against the TOS ??

[ryoldschool]

Asebstos wrote...

Pedactor wrote...

That video is using a Typhoon X and may be exploiting a double shot glitch involving AP Ammo and the Typhoon.  Knowingly doing so is against the ToS from my understanding.

Its against the TOS to fire at an Atlas' canopy with a weapon with high piercing? Yeah... not believing that.



Edit: Also, can someone explain why people are judging this weapon by if it can kill an Atlas in less than a full clip or in under 10 seconds? Are weapons that can't do that "garbage" now?

I have not been able to do this ( kill a Gold Atlas in one clip ), and was trying to see if it could be done.   Lots of people had posted in the Typhoon Nerf threads that the Typhoon was fine since the nerf and that they could take out an Atlas on Gold in one clip, so why are people complaining.  This clip is the first video evidence posted on the forum, and it turns out that it might have benefited from a "lucky" angle.

Atlas is the easiest target for a Typhoon on a Destroyer, but I was interested in countering that one statement because in my usage of the Typhoon it is lackluster since the 2nd nerf.   Other people looking at it have found a lot of inconsistances with the way it performs also.

[WeAreLegion-]

You still dont have the typhoon. Oh and all that gear and bonuses adds so much damage to it.

[Optimistman]

You're funny.

[Rokayt]

WeAreLegion- wrote...

You still dont have the typhoon. Oh and all that gear and bonuses adds so much damage to it.

I find it  funny that people complain about all the consummables they get instead of the wraith every match, but every time someone uses these consummables, people go "Ohh, please. Consummables are crap, this gun is crap, and the only reason this worked is because you used both. You Transvestite Stripper, why don't you play this game like a real man does?!?!?"


#2:
Yeah. I don't have it now.

However, It makes me REALLY want to have it, now.

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 10:07 .

[Pedactor]

Asebstos wrote...

Edit: Also, can someone explain why people are judging this weapon by if it can kill an Atlas in less than a full clip or in under 10 seconds? Are weapons that can't do that "garbage" now?

It does 66 damage per shot or something ramped up on anything without armor, barriers, or shields.  That's absolute garbage, but then again, after reading Gamemako's testing of this gun, it appears to be bugged overall or its mechanics are sloppily implemented.

Time out a PPR X vs. a Typhoon X on a boss.  The PPR with piercing and clip mods and a Harrier with Piercing and Barrel mods are both better than the Typhoon at killing bosses if that's to be your primary boss killing tool.

Up until Rank V or VI, a Typhoon is outclassed heavily by the Revenant on a Destroyer at killing mooks and arguably even killing bosses since it appears Piercing mod has a very bizarre interaction with the Typhoon.

[Rokayt]

Its unfortunate that the PPR is totally better.

I agree.

However.

The Typhoon can still be really impressive when you let it be really impressive.

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 10:13 .

[Sulaco_7]

There are a lot of contradictory findings about the Typhoon recently.

This thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/13783874

states that AP ammo powers do NOT work on the Typhoon, but that AP mods do. I tend to believe the findings in that thread because the people actually measured the values in-game.

[Rokayt]

Sulaco_7 wrote...

There are a lot of contradictory findings about the Typhoon recently.

This thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/13783874

states that AP ammo powers do NOT work on the Typhoon, but that AP mods do. I tend to believe the findings in that thread because the people actually measured the values in-game.

Someone pointed out that AP ammo 4 didn't work.

However, this video shows AP ammo 3 working...

So, I am inclined to think that its a glitch caused by:
#1 The Typhoon being bugged to hell.
#2 The Level 4 ammos being a server side deal. Thus being more vunerable to glitches.

[AbhijitSM]

Rokayt wrote...

Sulaco_7 wrote...

There are a lot of contradictory findings about the Typhoon recently.

This thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/13783874

states that AP ammo powers do NOT work on the Typhoon, but that AP mods do. I tend to believe the findings in that thread because the people actually measured the values in-game.

Someone pointed out that AP ammo 4 didn't work.

However, this video shows AP ammo 3 working...

So, I am inclined to think that its a glitch caused by:
#1 The Typhoon being bugged to hell.
#2 The Level 4 ammos being a server side deal. Thus being more vunerable to glitches.

Well...i could do another test using AP ammo 4 with the same setup. Just that i am a bit reluctant to do it now

[Rokayt]

AbhijitSM wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Sulaco_7 wrote...

There are a lot of contradictory findings about the Typhoon recently.

This thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/13783874

states that AP ammo powers do NOT work on the Typhoon, but that AP mods do. I tend to believe the findings in that thread because the people actually measured the values in-game.

Someone pointed out that AP ammo 4 didn't work.

However, this video shows AP ammo 3 working...

So, I am inclined to think that its a glitch caused by:
#1 The Typhoon being bugged to hell.
#2 The Level 4 ammos being a server side deal. Thus being more vunerable to glitches.

Well...i could do another test using AP ammo 4 with the same setup. Just that i am a bit reluctant to do it now

With the chewing out we have gotten from this, I don't blame you.

You don't have to be my test subject if you don't want to....

But if you like science..... <3

[AbhijitSM]

Rokayt wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Sulaco_7 wrote...

There are a lot of contradictory findings about the Typhoon recently.

This thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/13783874

states that AP ammo powers do NOT work on the Typhoon, but that AP mods do. I tend to believe the findings in that thread because the people actually measured the values in-game.

Someone pointed out that AP ammo 4 didn't work.

However, this video shows AP ammo 3 working...

So, I am inclined to think that its a glitch caused by:
#1 The Typhoon being bugged to hell.
#2 The Level 4 ammos being a server side deal. Thus being more vunerable to glitches.

Well...i could do another test using AP ammo 4 with the same setup. Just that i am a bit reluctant to do it now

With the chewing out we have gotten from this, I don't blame you.

You don't have to be my test subject if you don't want to....

But if you like science..... <3

That's not the issue. I am just concerned about what was stated in above post's about going against the TOS knowingly.

[Arppis]

Kalas321 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

RKOLK wrote...

that means nothing
you can't do that in platinum

It means something to people who play on gold, you know?

Gold has become the new silver. 

And people still play on gold. So it matters.

[Rokayt]

AbhijitSM wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Sulaco_7 wrote...

There are a lot of contradictory findings about the Typhoon recently.

This thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/13783874

states that AP ammo powers do NOT work on the Typhoon, but that AP mods do. I tend to believe the findings in that thread because the people actually measured the values in-game.

Someone pointed out that AP ammo 4 didn't work.

However, this video shows AP ammo 3 working...

So, I am inclined to think that its a glitch caused by:
#1 The Typhoon being bugged to hell.
#2 The Level 4 ammos being a server side deal. Thus being more vunerable to glitches.

Well...i could do another test using AP ammo 4 with the same setup. Just that i am a bit reluctant to do it now

With the chewing out we have gotten from this, I don't blame you.

You don't have to be my test subject if you don't want to....

But if you like science..... <3

That's not the issue. I am just concerned about what was stated in above post's about going against the TOS knowingly.

Well... This is valuable bug testing, isn't it?

More importantly. Its a glitch that is hard to avoid exploiting at all if you use AP ammo.

How can you tell that the glitch is happening? How much do you have to hurt your playstyle to prevent it?

Besides. Using the Reegar during the Flamer/ Biotic charge/SnapFreezes animation isn't regulated.

The List of things bannable: Vorcha invincibility, The missle glitch, and modding. According to the ban wave thread.
Why on earth testing an ammo type to see if it doesnt work on a gun would be considered bannable...

I just don't know.

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 10:29 .

[AbhijitSM]

Rokayt wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

AbhijitSM wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Sulaco_7 wrote...

There are a lot of contradictory findings about the Typhoon recently.

This thread:

http://social.biowar.../index/13783874

states that AP ammo powers do NOT work on the Typhoon, but that AP mods do. I tend to believe the findings in that thread because the people actually measured the values in-game.

Someone pointed out that AP ammo 4 didn't work.

However, this video shows AP ammo 3 working...

So, I am inclined to think that its a glitch caused by:
#1 The Typhoon being bugged to hell.
#2 The Level 4 ammos being a server side deal. Thus being more vunerable to glitches.

Well...i could do another test using AP ammo 4 with the same setup. Just that i am a bit reluctant to do it now

With the chewing out we have gotten from this, I don't blame you.

You don't have to be my test subject if you don't want to....

But if you like science..... <3

That's not the issue. I am just concerned about what was stated in above post's about going against the TOS knowingly.

Well... This is valuable bug testing, isn't it?

More importantly. Its a glitch that is hard to avoid exploiting at all if you use AP ammo.

How can you tell that the glitch is happening? How much do you have to hurt your playstyle to prevent it?

Besides. Using the Reegar during the Flamer/ Biotic charge/SnapFreezes animation isn't regulated.

The List of things bannable: Vorcha invincibility, The missle glitch, and modding. According to the ban wave thread.
Why on earth testing an ammo type to see if it doesnt work on a gun would be considered bannable...

I just don't know.

Yeah...as i stated in one of my posts above i dunno how using AP ammo is avoidable in any way. On platinum i only use AP ammo 4 as that difficulty is made up of bosses majorly & they all have armor. Apparently they will also have lots of atlases which any player cannot avoid. Soo...

Ok i will do some further testing. Hopefully some of the members on the forum who are on PC may help as well as it is painful to find a random lobby & then go on to find a lonely atlas to kill. Will do it later though. Its 4:00 a.m. here so i need to go sleep now

[Rokayt]

AbhijitSM wrote...

Yeah...as i stated in one of my posts above i dunno how using AP ammo is avoidable in any way. On platinum i only use AP ammo 4 as that difficulty is made up of bosses majorly & they all have armor. Apparently they will also have lots of atlases which any player cannot avoid. Soo...

Ok i will do some further testing. Hopefully some of the members on the forum who are on PC may help as well as it is painful to find a random lobby & then go on to find a lonely atlas to kill. Will do it later though. Its 4:00 a.m. here so i need to go sleep now

Alright Abhijit. Take good care till then.

Our Playerbase QA tagteam wil continue in the morning.

[Kalas Magnus]

Arppis wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

RKOLK wrote...

that means nothing
you can't do that in platinum

It means something to people who play on gold, you know?

Gold has become the new silver. 

And people still play on gold. So it matters.

Well, Yeah. The problem is platinum pays more and therefore the only difficulty people will focus on. People will dismiss anything on gold like they dismissed silver. 

[Rokayt]

Kalas321 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

RKOLK wrote...

that means nothing
you can't do that in platinum

It means something to people who play on gold, you know?

Gold has become the new silver. 

And people still play on gold. So it matters.

Well, Yeah. The problem is platinum pays more and therefore the only difficulty people will focus on. People will dismiss anything on gold like they dismissed silver. 

The funny part is, with a magazine upgrade, instead of the stability mod, you should be able to do this on platinum: Atlas should only have about 20% more health on platinum....

You just gave yourself a magazine thats net size is roughly 60% bigger.....


(If the Stability mod is somehow instrumental to doing this much damage.... Then.... Sigh.....)

Modifié par Rokayt, 23 août 2012 - 10:52 .

[Micah3sixty]

Kalas321 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

RKOLK wrote...

that means nothing
you can't do that in platinum

It means something to people who play on gold, you know?

Gold has become the new silver. 

And people still play on gold. So it matters.

Well, Yeah. The problem is platinum pays more and therefore the only difficulty people will focus on. People will dismiss anything on gold like they dismissed silver. 

They can dismiss all they want.  Excluding missile glitchers, I bet more people play Gold PuGs than Platinum.  I only play platinum with friends, or the occational farm runs when credits are low.  That's about 2-3 matches a week.  The rest of my matches are all Gold runs.