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[Tonya777]

Speaking of which its a daunting task to attempt to look like Brad Pitt there.... because gym equipment or memberships actually cost money



If I could somehow just get an entire gym full of equipment for free I'd go for that superb fitness level



Technically a gym membership is relativley affordable for most people , but working out in public seems embarassing to me lol

[Dark83]

Imryll wrote...
Perhaps the elves of legend are not level 1?

That makes a lot of sense.
All the elves who don't become legend either die or are crappy and aren't recorded.

Survivor bias, in other words.

[Dark83]

Tonya777 wrote...

Speaking of which its a daunting task to attempt to look like Brad Pitt there...

Hah, my major problem is cardio. I hate it. I hates it with a passion!
If you consider Brad Pitt's Fight Club routine, he worked each muscle group into failure, then allowed it a full week's rest, keeping up a constant rotation and lots of cardio to put the body into fat-burning mode. Obviously he had a very controlled diet as well. It's the sort of routine you can have only if you don't actually have to work.

[F-C]

Tonya777 wrote...

Speaking of which its a daunting task to attempt to look like Brad Pitt there.... because gym equipment or memberships actually cost money

If I could somehow just get an entire gym full of equipment for free I'd go for that superb fitness level

Technically a gym membership is relativley affordable for most people , but working out in public seems embarassing to me lol

this is just you trying to justify being lazy.

you can work out at home without any expensive equipment if you are the least bit inclined to.

it is easy to come up with excuses though.

[Tonya777]

Once I worked my arms out untill "failure" I think , they hurt so horrificly bad I couldn't really do anything with them but it did make them look noticably better haha



If he did that to his entire body though? Good Lord he must have had to been rolled around on a stretcher on the breaks

[Tonya777]

F-C wrote...

this is just you trying to justify being lazy.

you can work out at home without any expensive equipment if you are the least bit inclined to.

it is easy to come up with excuses though.

Ehhhhh well.... if you want to do ridiculous innovative and retarded home made ghetto equipment like lifting jugs of water and jogging circles in your living room cause you have no treadmill I guess? I have done stuff like that before but don't do it regularly
I'm not actually lazy though , if someone gave me a bowflex or something I'd be using that thing daily

[Sibelius1]

F-C wrote...

i think too many people are taking their impression of elves from other games and trying to imprint it onto dao.

When one the DAO companions comments on how the elves are renowned for being nimble, I believe that that is how they should be in this universe. So either the writing or the attribute allocation is wrong. Which is it?

[Few87]

I also agree, and also elves need to get abused more

[Dark83]

Tonya777 wrote...

Once I worked my arms out untill
"failure" I think , they hurt so horrificly bad I couldn't really do
anything with them but it did make them look noticably better haha

If he did that to his entire body though? Good Lord he must have had to been rolled around on a stretcher on the breaks

Working to failure essentially means you keep up the reps with decreasing weights until you can't do one more rep with the lightest weight. Eh, you get used to the pain. In fact, it becomes a good thing. My chest and abs still hurt from Sunday, and it actually feels good to stretch and feel the pain.

It's just legs, lower back, and glutes that suck when they hurt. <_<

Since he was able to keep up cardio, and due to his scrawny legs, odds are he kept running and didn't do his legs, so he woulda gotten around fine. In Troy we can see that he actually did the lifts and beef up his legs.

Modifié par Dark83, 23 décembre 2009 - 05:05 .

[Bibdy]

Not sure why slim/frail is equated to dextrous and fast...I guess the weak have to come up with some excuse for their lack of body mass

[Tonya777]

^Have you ever known a skinny person whos slow?

[F-C]

Sibelius1 wrote...

F-C wrote...

i think too many people are taking their impression of elves from other games and trying to imprint it onto dao.

When one the DAO companions comments on how the elves are renowned for being nimble, I believe that that is how they should be in this universe. So either the writing or the attribute allocation is wrong. Which is it?

so one companion has this disposition that elves are nimble so thats how it should be in the universe, huh?

with the same logic there is one companion that thinks pigeons are the greatest evil in all of ferelden so apparently pigeons need to start replacing darkspawn for the enemy of choice.

[Dark83]

Tonya777 wrote...
^Have you ever known a skinny person whos slow?

Yeah, actually.  (Well, slower than me, and my cardio sucks.)
It really has to do with stride length and leg muscles. Check out the legs on Florence Griffith-Joyner. Endurance is a mite different, but sprinting?  Stride and Type IIb muscles.

[F-C]

Tonya777 wrote...

F-C wrote...

this is just you trying to justify being lazy.

you can work out at home without any expensive equipment if you are the least bit inclined to.

it is easy to come up with excuses though.

Ehhhhh well.... if you want to do ridiculous innovative and retarded home made ghetto equipment like lifting jugs of water and jogging circles in your living room cause you have no treadmill I guess? I have done stuff like that before but don't do it regularly
I'm not actually lazy though , if someone gave me a bowflex or something I'd be using that thing daily

if you require epuipment like a bowflex they are constantly advertising that you finance one for 10$ a month on tv. i find it hard to believe you couldnt come up with 10$ a month if you really wanted one.


also i guess you havent heard of basic calisthenics like the military uses :

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Calisthenics

there are many more things you can do that arnt even listed there.


you can also do simple aerobic excersise to build your cardio up that doesnt require anything as silly as running in circles around your living room and will give you better full body cardio than simple running.


like i said though, its easy to come up with excuses to be lazy.

[Bibdy]

Tonya777 wrote...

^Have you ever known a skinny person whos slow?

Err yeah, plenty. Slow, uncoordinated, clumsy. Lack of muscle mass = lack of ability to move quickly, and it doesn't mean their reaction time is any quicker, either. Then there's coordination and balance, which only improve with practice. They atrophy with laziness. Sitting around, being lazy, and not working out isn't going to magically make you quick and agile...you still have to work at it.

You can look at gymnasts as a small person, but with a LOT of strong, lean, healthy muscle, but that takes a lot of workout to tone that kind of form. The average thin/lanky person you'd see on the street isn't likely to be gymnast quality.

Now elves being very dextrous...that's just a stereotype (as is equating slim/frail with quick/dextrous). Where's the big, grand book on Elves that specifies that all Elves will be quick/dextrous? These aren't a race of Elves that have been living for millenia, honing their skills in archery and what-not. The Elves in this game are everyday people who exist as either downtrodden slaves or nomads and, not to mention, they've lost their immortality. Who knows what kind of effects that's had?

Modifié par Bibdy, 23 décembre 2009 - 05:41 .

[Tonya777]

@F-C , well I suppose maybe you're right



But I kind of think that to do Calesthinics on a regular basis? That takes more than simply "not lazy" , I think one has to be truly DRIVEN to go to those lengths seeing as that is the most uncomfortable and painful way to work out , which is also discouraging when you see **** on TV that works alot more comfortably and effectivley but then you can't buy it



And no I really can't buy it , I currently have no job so any purchases would have to be coming from my parents , and they are broke as hell too... we are actually having a quite meager Christmas really



But anyway I think this is getting off topic now

[Dark83]

Bibdy wrote...

You can look at gymnasts as a small person, but with a LOT of strong, lean, healthy muscle, but that takes a lot of workout to tone that kind of form. The average thin/lanky person you'd see on the street isn't likely to be gymnast quality.

Gymnists are all ripped! They have to be able to support their own weight, after all. Male and female, they're all quite buff. (We certainly get a good close look at world-class gymnasts during the olympics. )

[Bibdy]

Yeah, but you see them walking down the street, in full clothing, you'd think they were just your average short person, and they're still quite lean for the amount of muscle they're sporting. You'd only realise they were incredibly quick and strong when they start busting some moves.

[Dark83]

Well, I confess I'm thinking more about the girls. :innocent:
Jeans, tights, or skirts, you can tell if she's a dancer or a gymnast.

Edit: To be more DAO related, I have to say Leliana's lack of muscle tone seems strange to me, especially her arms. There are frigging supermodels with more shapely arms than her.

Modifié par Dark83, 23 décembre 2009 - 05:58 .

[Tonya777]

As far as I've noticed gymnast chicks = Very shapely and even kind of big butts and thighs & then like no boobs at all

Or am I off? I rarely see gymnastics on TV but the last time I did thats what I noticed about them

Modifié par Tonya777, 23 décembre 2009 - 06:00 .

[Gecon]

Dark83 wrote...
That's '91 with not much muscle, default ectomorph. In '99, he buffed up for Fight Club, at 150-155 lbs with about 5-6% body fat (actually losing weight from before). '04, that's an extra 10-15 pounds of muscle. 175 lbs with about 8% body fat.

Pitt at Troy - 5'11 @ 175 lbs. (BMI 24.4)
Statam - 5'9 @ 170 lbs. (BMI 25.1)
Bolt - 6'5 @ 210 lbs. (BMI 24.9)

"Slim", these guys ain't.
(I do weight training, and along with my friends, we probably pay way too much attention to other dudes. Strictly for comparison, of course. )

Err.

BMI is pretty much absolutely useless for bodybuilders, because muscles weight more than fat.

The health issue is too much body fat, and BMI is designed for normal people who dont have extraordinary amounts of muscles.

[Elanareon]

No being slim or fit doesnt mean you run fast. Beinf fit though is for stamina. I am a tall guy who is somewhat overweight and i can outrun everyguy in class who is "slim". That is a stereotype most people know, but is not fact.

[fantasypisces]

This was one of the first things I noticed. "Wait wait wait, the elves don't get a bonus to dexterity, but humans do?" I found it so weird. I have tried multiple times to play an elf, but can't do it because their stats are weird, and do not start well for anything but a mage.

[Dark83]

Gecon wrote...

BMI is pretty much absolutely useless for bodybuilders, because muscles weight more than fat.

The health issue is too much body fat, and BMI is designed for normal people who dont have extraordinary amounts of muscles.

Speaking as a bodybuilder - yes, I know. I was 5'10 and 190 lb. a few years ago before I started working out, and now I'm 5'10 and 180lb, but there's a 7 inch difference in waist, and considerably difference in chest and biceps and so on. From an XL to a S. The number may not be useful in terms of judging how healthy you are, but it is useful in comparing weight/height ratios for people of the same build. The point was more to point out that they're all roughly proportional - and that they're not lightweights.

[KalosCast]

Elves should get a bonus to poverty.