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Shouldn't elves racial stat bonuses include DEX? Also , shouldn't they be able to run faster since they are slim?


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El-Destructo

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Elves get a 10% racial bonus to being easily conquered and poor. Sorry, had to do it. XD

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Rav2C wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

No race should get any bonuses at all.
First, because you choose the race you like the most (or, in my case, elves because they look best), not the race with the best stats for your class.
Second, because it´s a racist prejudice that your race influences your skill at anything. What matters is what you do, how often and what you practice, etc, not of which race you are.
Third, because elves in fantasy are also great swordsmen and magicians and have strong wills and are immune to illnesses (= high constitution) and are intelligent etc.. So if you follow your propositions, elves would get +100 all attributes, and that would break the game.



To make it short:

NO!


Ah yes, the hyperbole police are out in force. Can't just be content with saying no, but have to do it in an explosive manner too.

 As for the original question, I would suggest looking at the design doc for the races and determine from there if the intended form/function of the Elf race would suggest or otherwise support a bonus to Dexterity. Then look at the design discussions over what bonuses to give / were given (if they are available).

Barring that, I suppose one could ask the Devs... Nah, that'd be too easy. Much better for everyone to flame each other. Posted Image


How did I flame? I just told you my opinion and why I have it, if you dont want to read it why come in this topic?

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Forumtroll wrote...

I have a feeling 'renowned in her country for being nimble and pleasant to look at' is more hinting that elves are good at sex and are valued for being good at sex.


Actually, elves get a bonus at sex. The cutscenes are funnier with elf PC than with others:wub::wub:

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Tonya777 wrote...

^Have you ever known a skinny person whos slow?


My hubby would certainly qualify there - he's fast for having chronic pain issues though - but he certainly isn't much faster than myself with a more "normal" weight - thanks to his need to constantly alter his walking pattern due to however his limb pain is striking on the given day.

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Tonya777 wrote...

Edit : Also the elves are very slim , theres honestly no chance in hell a Dwarf would run the same speed as them , what if Humans ran at base speed Dwarves at -10% speed and elves at +10% speed? That would be interesting


My Elf runs faster than the rest of the party. Even when my Elf Rogue is stealthed, she moves faster than Leiliana with the same level of stealth.

Apparently, they are faster to some degree.

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Valethar wrote...
My Elf runs faster than the rest of the party. Even when my Elf Rogue is stealthed, she moves faster than Leiliana with the same level of stealth.
Apparently, they are faster to some degree.

Do you have the Warden's Keep DLC, having drank the blood and received the two rogue talents - one of which is moving faster in stealth? :whistle:

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Sibelius1 wrote...

F-C wrote...

Sibelius1 wrote...

F-C wrote...

i think too many people are taking their impression of elves from other games and trying to imprint it onto dao.



When one the DAO companions comments on how the elves are renowned for being nimble, I believe that that is how they should be in this universe. So either the writing or the attribute allocation is wrong. Which is it?


so one companion has this disposition that elves are nimble so thats how it should be in the universe, huh?

with the same logic there is one companion that thinks pigeons are the greatest evil in all of ferelden so apparently pigeons need to start replacing darkspawn for the enemy of choice.




When Leliana says that elves are 'renowned in her country for being nimble and pleasant to look at', keyword being 'renowned', it generally means that the majority of people recognise and accept their nimbleness, not just one person. 

You should really know the facts, and read other peoples posts properly before blindly defending the game's inconsistencies



seriously you are going to base your arguement on an npc who is known for being a delusional liar?

yar boy, you sure put me in my place!




anyways look at it like this.

race = 4 stat points.

class =10 + bonus 5 = 15 + level ups 72 = 87 stat points.

if you really think racial stat points really matter with anything you are a bumbling idiot.

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I don't think it makes sense that elves essentially have a penalty to dexterity, considering they lack the dexterity bonus that both dwarves and humans get.

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Dark83 wrote...

Valethar wrote...
My Elf runs faster than the rest of the party. Even when my Elf Rogue is stealthed, she moves faster than Leiliana with the same level of stealth.
Apparently, they are faster to some degree.

Do you have the Warden's Keep DLC, having drank the blood and received the two rogue talents - one of which is moving faster in stealth? :whistle:


Probably this..  LOL.  I did WC right off the bat. Forgot about the passive power from that one...:huh:

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Yet another case where they should've stuck to the true and tested DnD system.



+2 Dex.

-2 Con.




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City elves probably should have higher dex. Having to run away from humans trying to hurt you at times.

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No because they are inferior to Humans.



They are slower, weaker, and stupider.



It's the only thing that explains how their entire civilization (which had spanned thousands of years) was so easily destroyed.