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[Ithurael]

Chaosproscho wrote...


I'll tell you. Mass Effect 3 and it's endings were always explained as the ending of Shepards Story never that of the universe. What if Shepards story is his indoctrination? With that in mind, the endings provided are actually the true endings (I'm not saying they really have happened in the physical world) and don't need any addendum, because they conclude Shepards story aka. his indoctrination perfectly fine. Either he falls for the Reaper ruse or he breaks free. It's the end of Shepards indoctrination story. But the Reapers are still out there and need to be fought. From there Bioware can basically do what ever they want without contradicting anything they have said previously.

Sleep well I hope

Bioware confirmed that Mass Effect 3 is the end of Shepard's story AND the end of the current story arch (reapers)

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I consider ME3 SP ending a completely lost cause.

[Gamer790]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I consider ME3 SP ending a completely lost cause.

My opinion mirrors your own.

[The Twilight God]

Chaosproscho wrote...

What I don't like about IT Con is: Why? Why does Harbinger let Shepard come up the Citadel and stop TIM who allready got indoctrinated, only for the offchance that he will chose to synthesis or even control the reapers. Why the hell would he even want Shepard to control the reapers? It makes no sense.

 
Nobody said the Reapers want him to Control anything. Control is never an option. 

http://social.biowar...9372/1#13419412

Study up on the subject material before commenting further.

Chaosproscho wrote...

If I were Harbinger I would just have desintegrated Shepard and the Normandy too when it landed just 200 meters away. But no, he didn't do it. Why? And don't start with the Reaper IFF, it may work out in the vasts of space, but not if that goddamn Normandy is basically parking for 5 Minutes straight right in front of the most advanced Reaper. Harbinger should have cutted it to pieces, but he didn't. Why? The only explanation can be that he wants Shepard to be alive and the only reason for him to want Shepard to be alive is to assume direct controll of him. (And IF the Reaper IFF is actually working so well that even Harbi couldnt detect the Normady land right in front of him, then why didn't they just use it to drop off the whole hammer team right in front of the beam?)

I'll go to sleep now and will check in here tomorrow. good night

That last beam was clearly intended for Shepard; however, it is heading to the left of Shepard. Therefore, Harbinger clearly only intended to "graze" him. The Reapers have shown great interest in Shepard for reasons that are their own. I believe Shepard was never expected to get past TIM prior to being fully indoctrinated. They laid an obvious heavy indoctrination sequence on him while TIM held him with Dominate. The Reapers have shown a propensity for overconfidence and they don't fail to deliver.

Problem with Dream theory is that when Shepard supposedly beats in doctrination in his sleep (cause it's so easy you can do it in your sleep apparently) what's to stop Harbinger from finishing him off once he wakes up? You've shot yourself in the foot here. With Dream Theory the only option is succumb to indoctrination or die by Harbinger. Both of which end with a Reaper victory.

Modifié par The Twilight God, 25 août 2012 - 02:01 .

[Ownaholic]

As the creator of the Documentary, I'd just like to say this:

I tried to say very clearly in the documentary that it is a rumor at this point. There is no real evidence to suggest otherwise.
11 page long topics about it was actually something I was hoping to avoid. It was an extra piece of information that I thought would be interesting to throw in, because it was an interesting piece of information that I had personally heard.

Nothing more, nothing less. Let's try not to blow it out of proportion here.

Also...Did none of you pay attention to the 20-minute ending of the documentary at all? You know, the whole closing-statements thing...moving on to other things...not posting 11 page topics on the Bioware forums...that kinda stuff?

Modifié par Ownaholic, 25 août 2012 - 02:19 .

[Ithurael]

Ownaholic wrote...

As the creator of the Documentary, I'd just like to say this:

I tried to say very clearly in the documentary that it is a rumor at this point. There is no real evidence to suggest otherwise.
11 page long topics about it was actually something I was hoping to avoid. It was an extra piece of information that I thought would be interesting to throw in, because it was an interesting piece of information that I had personally heard.

Nothing more, nothing less. Let's try not to blow it out of proportion here.

Also...Did none of you pay attention to the 20-minute ending of the documentary at all? You know, the whole closing-statements thing...moving on to other things...not posting 11 page topics on the Bioware forums...that kinda stuff?

Julian? Is that u? Srsly?

Wow...I would have never thought you would choose a krogan - just me lol

anywho - ya the last 20 mins is basically what BSN has been like for a while (save for not posting) there is more hate here than anywhere. And most the haters have gone these days compared to back in the sh*t storm.

I do not think that NOT posting in BSN is a good idea. Bioware kinda (at a tiny level) gauges its fanbase from here. The more hate there is the more they realize that the ending is BS. Also, I kinda like posting here. there are fun people to talk to.

Also, you marked down the bioware response to when we tried to move the IT thread to fanficiton but you did not comment on chris priestly's comment that the endings are - infact - done. This is shown again in this tread. Any thoughts?

ME3 is over - they will not expand on it. You know, I actually looked at your first documentary (post EC) and found that the EC fixed many of the problems you specified.

Sadly, though IT Dream can give the ultimate handwave Bioware will not do it. The Bad Writing Theory wins.

[Bushido Effect]

Ithurael wrote...

Ownaholic wrote...

As the creator of the Documentary, I'd just like to say this:

I tried to say very clearly in the documentary that it is a rumor at this point. There is no real evidence to suggest otherwise.
11 page long topics about it was actually something I was hoping to avoid. It was an extra piece of information that I thought would be interesting to throw in, because it was an interesting piece of information that I had personally heard.

Nothing more, nothing less. Let's try not to blow it out of proportion here.

Also...Did none of you pay attention to the 20-minute ending of the documentary at all? You know, the whole closing-statements thing...moving on to other things...not posting 11 page topics on the Bioware forums...that kinda stuff?

Julian? Is that u? Srsly?

Wow...I would have never thought you would choose a krogan - just me lol

anywho - ya the last 20 mins is basically what BSN has been like for a while (save for not posting) there is more hate here than anywhere. And most the haters have gone these days compared to back in the sh*t storm.

I do not think that NOT posting in BSN is a good idea. Bioware kinda (at a tiny level) gauges its fanbase from here. The more hate there is the more they realize that the ending is BS. Also, I kinda like posting here. there are fun people to talk to.

Also, you marked down the bioware response to when we tried to move the IT thread to fanficiton but you did not comment on chris priestly's comment that the endings are - infact - done. This is shown again in this tread. Any thoughts?

ME3 is over - they will not expand on it. You know, I actually looked at your first documentary (post EC) and found that the EC fixed many of the problems you specified.

Sadly, though IT Dream can give the ultimate handwave Bioware will not do it. The Bad Writing Theory wins.

Lol that was Julian?  Heh I just left a comment on your documentary after someone posted a link.  I personally don't buy IT myself. But no point in fighting each other over this otherwise good saga.  ME still means alot to me no matter what others say. And thats all I need to feel content.   

So basically the saga is done for me.  EC was fine, I'm done.  Will try Leviathan later on.

[Bushido Effect]

Also @ julian

You make long ass documentaries. And while I may not agree with all of them, I respect your passion to create such huge videos to begin with. And in 1080p! How big were the filesizes, I'm real curious, damn...

[Ownaholic]

Bushido Effect wrote...

Also @ julian

You make long ass documentaries. And while I may not agree with all of them, I respect your passion to create such huge videos to begin with. And in 1080p! How big were the filesizes, I'm real curious, damn...

The smallest one was 10GB. This one was nearly 20. =D

[Liara2010]

@ Julian

Just wanted to congratulate you and say thank you for all the hard work you put into making that awesome trilogy of documentaries. Keep up the good work!

[StElmo]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

I have no reason to believe it. "I know somebody that knows somebody that said this thing exists" is as empty my last cigarette pack. You wish it had some substance to it but it just doesn't.

That said, saying "Chris denies it so its false" is equally empty and dumb. No **** he would deny it. May as well ask somebody if they are a liar.

Stop smoking you filthy elcor!

[liggy002]

Ownaholic wrote...

As the creator of the Documentary, I'd just like to say this:

I tried to say very clearly in the documentary that it is a rumor at this point. There is no real evidence to suggest otherwise.
11 page long topics about it was actually something I was hoping to avoid. It was an extra piece of information that I thought would be interesting to throw in, because it was an interesting piece of information that I had personally heard.

Nothing more, nothing less. Let's try not to blow it out of proportion here.

Also...Did none of you pay attention to the 20-minute ending of the documentary at all? You know, the whole closing-statements thing...moving on to other things...not posting 11 page topics on the Bioware forums...that kinda stuff?

Dude, with all the discussion that goes on and IT being all the rage, did you really expect the fanbase to not discuss the hell out of this?  I really wish that your contact is right and I like to tell myself that Priestly is lying.... but Mass Effect will never be the game that it could have been.

[sonicphoto]

I don't see why Bioware doesn't want to add new endings, thats what this DlC's should provide, new ways to finish the battle with different shepard profiles. Its not about deleting, its just adding new possibilities. If they do this it would be worthy to go and play again.

[liggy002]

sonicphoto wrote...

I don't see why Bioware doesn't want to add new endings, thats what this DlC's should provide, new ways to finish the battle with different shepard profiles. Its not about deleting, its just adding new possibilities. If they do this it would be worthy to go and play again.

YES!  But people don't get that.  They would think then that they were sold an incomplete game which is untrue because such DLC would only be 1 possible interpretation of the ending.  If anything, the IT believers are still left with an incomplete game.   Mass Effect has always been about choice and people should be able to choose their own endings.

How's that for artistic integrity Bioware?  Maintaining the theme of CHOICE. 

[carrmatt91]

liggy002 wrote...

sonicphoto wrote...

I don't see why Bioware doesn't want to add new endings, thats what this DlC's should provide, new ways to finish the battle with different shepard profiles. Its not about deleting, its just adding new possibilities. If they do this it would be worthy to go and play again.

YES!  But people don't get that.  They would think then that they were sold an incomplete game which is untrue because such DLC would only be 1 possible interpretation of the ending.  If anything, the IT believers are still left with an incomplete game.   Mass Effect has always been about choice and people should be able to choose their own endings.

How's that for artistic integrity Bioware?  Maintaining the theme of CHOICE. 

that and you would get the people without xbox live or psn who would turn round and say that they have an incomplete game and have no way to get the extra content without forking out money for a subscription or a dlc

[JasonDaPsycho]

EA doing something that's logical? EA trying to rebuild the bridge between itself and its fans? It's as likely as EA realizing a strictly digital distribution is not going to happen under the current trend, and coming to senses that it's in the fifth year of its three-year plan.

In other words, very likely indeed.
*sarcastic chuckle*

[yukon fire]

Chris Priestly wrote...

You can keep discussing this if you wish, but it is false. Sorry.

We have aid numerous times now, we have "ended the endings". While there is more DLC for both Single and Multiplayer still to come, there is no more "endings" DLC.

Wow, this is really odd. After fiver years of stringing people along only to lie to them I would have thought giving people a possible false hope for a few months of peace would have been old hat for you guys. 

[ForceXev]

Chris Priestly wrote...

You can keep discussing this if you wish, but it is false. Sorry.

We have aid numerous times now, we have "ended the endings". While there is more DLC for both Single and Multiplayer still to come, there is no more "endings" DLC.

Yeah... you wouldn't want to get people excited for DLC or anything.  That would be terrible.  Best to play it nice and safe and boring!

Now let's go recapture a dirty run-down night club for Aria!  That's a perfectly insignificant thing we could do in DLC.  Then we can follow that up with the Shepard Rescues a Cat From a Tree DLC. 

:innocent:

[obZen DF]

Ownaholic wrote...

Bushido Effect wrote...

Also @ julian

You make long ass documentaries. And while I may not agree with all of them, I respect your passion to create such huge videos to begin with. And in 1080p! How big were the filesizes, I'm real curious, damn...

The smallest one was 10GB. This one was nearly 20. =D

And you show it to us for free. You just received +1223 Karma. Keep up the good work :happy:

[ShepnTali]

Bioware could put an end to the IT strife altogether, but they choose to let it rage on.

[DextroDNA]

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware could put an end to the IT strife altogether, but they choose to let it rage on.

Apparantly speculation = money.

[MissMaster_2]

EDIT: Wrong person quote, time to go to bed. 

Modifié par MissMaster_2, 25 août 2012 - 08:27 .

[CptBomBom00]

Wut Chris confirmed it as false, but.. but. I have source inside BioWare studio that claim, there's going to be a DLC called Extinction.

[ShepnTali]

MissMaster_2 wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware could put an end to the IT strife altogether, but they choose to let it rage on.

So how is that Haterade tastein'? 

What are you talking about?

[MissMaster_2]

ShepnTali wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware could put an end to the IT strife altogether, but they choose to let it rage on.

So how is that Haterade tastein'? 

What are you talking about?

I quoted the wrong person. It 4:30 am excuse me...too early to be here. 

Modifié par MissMaster_2, 25 août 2012 - 08:27 .