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[obZen DF]

What could've been! Oh LAWD what could've been!

[srjepsen]

liggy002 wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

I'd like to end this thread with, "Now Shut Up." But instead I got this:
http://www.holdtheli...-plotholes.2073

Your fabled "Project X" is no more real than a sasquatch riding a unicorn.

I'll get their permission to do it, and if I don't I'll get my ending and no amount of their lawyers will stop me because I have a plan that they wont be able to stop.

A plan they won't be able to stop huh? Sounds intriguing, the more people you get to support you in this cause, the better. Bioware needs to know that some picture slides is not how this trilogy needs to end.  And with the Leviathan DLC, a proper confrontation with Harbinger is definitely necessary now

Modifié par srjepsen, 01 septembre 2012 - 07:31 .

[RadicalDisconnect]

rymajn3 wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

The IT is still a thing?

EC made it even more so. All the evidence is there. And it can fix all the bad writing and plotholes if BW ever decides to act on it.

It's certainly a lot easier to think about than taking the endings literally. Right now nothing makes sense, unless it's IT.

Really?

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 01 septembre 2012 - 07:46 .

[KiwiQuiche]

...is it wrong to be amused by the fact so many people continuing to delude themselves with the IT?

Well, it does show how bad Bioware have gotten if some fans need to force themselves to believe the last part of their game is a dream I suppose.

[Icinix]

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

rymajn3 wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

The IT is still a thing?

EC made it even more so. All the evidence is there. And it can fix all the bad writing and plotholes if BW ever decides to act on it.

It's certainly a lot easier to think about than taking the endings literally. Right now nothing makes sense, unless it's IT.

Really?

The Leviathan DLC has a massive focus on Indoctrination and how it works.

At the very least - it throws up the right signals in support that indoctrination SHOULD be having an affect in ME3.

Unless they're only intending indoctrination to be a focus in Leviathan - in which case - how peculiar.

[RadicalDisconnect]

Icinix wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

rymajn3 wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

The IT is still a thing?

EC made it even more so. All the evidence is there. And it can fix all the bad writing and plotholes if BW ever decides to act on it.

It's certainly a lot easier to think about than taking the endings literally. Right now nothing makes sense, unless it's IT.

Really?

The Leviathan DLC has a massive focus on Indoctrination and how it works.

At the very least - it throws up the right signals in support that indoctrination SHOULD be having an affect in ME3.

Unless they're only intending indoctrination to be a focus in Leviathan - in which case - how peculiar.

Okay, I almost never say this, but you are truly grasping at straws here. Leviathan is an organic. Its indoctrination isn't much more than a plot device.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 01 septembre 2012 - 07:48 .

[Icinix]

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Icinix wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

rymajn3 wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

The IT is still a thing?

EC made it even more so. All the evidence is there. And it can fix all the bad writing and plotholes if BW ever decides to act on it.

It's certainly a lot easier to think about than taking the endings literally. Right now nothing makes sense, unless it's IT.

Really?

The Leviathan DLC has a massive focus on Indoctrination and how it works.

At the very least - it throws up the right signals in support that indoctrination SHOULD be having an affect in ME3.

Unless they're only intending indoctrination to be a focus in Leviathan - in which case - how peculiar.

Okay, I almost never say this, but you are truly grasping at straws here. Leviathan is an organic. Its indoctrination isn't much more than a plot device.

Not really grasping at straws with anything, merely stating that there is a huge focus on indoctrination and its affects and how it works.

For that to exist only in a bubble for the purpose of the DLC would be very strange.

[DirtyPhoenix]

It showed where the reapers got their indoctrination from. Their synthetic indoctrination is supposed to be an imitation of levy's "organic" indoctrination. There's nothing more to read here IMO. Maybe foreshadowing of future ME titles..

Also, levy's indoctrination is very different from the Reaper's indoctrination

[Thrawn81]

Chris you cant joke us anymore we all know whats BWs masterplan is.....

[XXIceColdXX]

Please be true.

[The Heretic of Time]

Why does this thread still exist? Project X is obviously false. Chris Priestly confirmed this.

BioWare has no master plan. Sorry folks. It's best if we all just accept this and move on.

[2484Stryker]

Why is indoc theory still a thing? EC basically blew it out of the waters. Sorry folks, but there is no master plan in hiding.

[MACharlie1]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Why does this thread still exist? Project X is obviously false. Chris Priestly confirmed this.

BioWare has no master plan. Sorry folks. It's best if we all just accept this and move on.

Just to play Devils Advocate...Priestly is notorious for lying about DLC and upcoming features.

If everything Priestly said was true, we'd never have Legion, Kasumi, Garrus in ME2, Arrival, Javik...all those things leaked and every single time Priestly has said they're false and don't exist. 

[Sporozoa]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Why does this thread still exist? Project X is obviously false. Chris Priestly confirmed this.

BioWare has no master plan. Sorry folks. It's best if we all just accept this and move on.

Just to play Devils Advocate...Priestly is notorious for lying about DLC and upcoming features.

If everything Priestly said was true, we'd never have Legion, Kasumi, Garrus in ME2, Arrival, Javik...all those things leaked and every single time Priestly has said they're false and don't exist. 

Well, i think that BW DO HAVE master plan. I don't belief they are shortsighted (however endings dissolve it and proves that they are). Maybe we just don't know that yet. And project X may also be thue, because none of what said BW should be used as truth (see all DLC leaks, pre-realise quotes ect..ect..).

Or how do they plan to do ME4 if they didnt state one of 4 ending as canon. They did it in ME2 - shepard could die at the end of the suicide mission, but ME3 starts like it continues ending where he didnt.

[TSA_383]

Icinix wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Icinix wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

rymajn3 wrote...

DoomHK wrote...

The IT is still a thing?

EC made it even more so. All the evidence is there. And it can fix all the bad writing and plotholes if BW ever decides to act on it.

It's certainly a lot easier to think about than taking the endings literally. Right now nothing makes sense, unless it's IT.

Really?

The Leviathan DLC has a massive focus on Indoctrination and how it works.

At the very least - it throws up the right signals in support that indoctrination SHOULD be having an affect in ME3.

Unless they're only intending indoctrination to be a focus in Leviathan - in which case - how peculiar.

Okay, I almost never say this, but you are truly grasping at straws here. Leviathan is an organic. Its indoctrination isn't much more than a plot device.

Not really grasping at straws with anything, merely stating that there is a huge focus on indoctrination and its affects and how it works.

For that to exist only in a bubble for the purpose of the DLC would be very strange.

This. Literally every mission in the DLC seemed to focus on indoctrination, then at the end Leviathan does exactly the same thing to Shepard that Harbinger does in London (or at least it appears as such) - building up a false reality from shepard's memories and using it to communicate, etc.

[The Heretic of Time]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Why does this thread still exist? Project X is obviously false. Chris Priestly confirmed this.

BioWare has no master plan. Sorry folks. It's best if we all just accept this and move on.

Just to play Devils Advocate...Priestly is notorious for lying about DLC and upcoming features.

If everything Priestly said was true, we'd never have Legion, Kasumi, Garrus in ME2, Arrival, Javik...all those things leaked and every single time Priestly has said they're false and don't exist. 

I can't remember Chris flatout lying about anything. Denying that something exists? Yes. But flat out lying? No.

This time, Chris does not just deny the potential existense of Project X, he flatout states that Project X is false, a lie.

[dorktainian]

just accept mass effect 3 sucks and move on to other games. there are games out there that deserve attention. bioware wont fix the lameass ending then they deserve to lose their loyal customerbase.

remember bioware the customer is always right.

[The Heretic of Time]

Icinix wrote...

For that to exist only in a bubble for the purpose of the DLC would be very strange.

Everything in Mass Effect exists in a bubble. Why would this be different?

[Ytook]

If this exists I would buy it and all other ME3 dlc. Please Bioware don't drive yourself further into this hole, you have a perfect out whether you planned it or not, ME3's ending would go from the worst break down in storytelling quality ever to an extremely clever use of game mechanics to represent a battle of wills.

I doubt this 'Project X' is true but if it is you will start getting my and many others money again.

[MACharlie1]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Why does this thread still exist? Project X is obviously false. Chris Priestly confirmed this.

BioWare has no master plan. Sorry folks. It's best if we all just accept this and move on.

Just to play Devils Advocate...Priestly is notorious for lying about DLC and upcoming features.

If everything Priestly said was true, we'd never have Legion, Kasumi, Garrus in ME2, Arrival, Javik...all those things leaked and every single time Priestly has said they're false and don't exist. 

I can't remember Chris flatout lying about anything. Denying that something exists? Yes. But flat out lying? No.

This time, Chris does not just deny the potential existense of Project X, he flatout states that Project X is false, a lie.

I believe he flat out lied about Javik after Origin accidently leaked that it was a Prothean squadmate. 

[Fiannawolf]

If even one iota of this is truth then I might get my reunion bread crumbs....

[JacobNZW]

Leeeet the SHIIT-STORM commence...

[JacobNZW]

For those about to whine about IT, here is a little something you might wanna read. You're arguments are basically one big straw-man.

http://en.wikipedia....aw-man_argument

[Candidate 88766]

So an unverified source claims that Bioware will be releasing the 'real' ending of ME3 a year after the game itself was released.

Seriously, why is anyone lending this even the vaguest semblance of credence?

Basic common sense should be enough to tell you this is nothing more than false. No company is going to wait a year to release a game's real ending - too many people will have lost interest, and in ME3's case too many people will have abandoned Bioware. If they had this up their sleeves, damage control would've kicked in ages ago. There is no reason whatsoever for Bioware to keep something like this secret anymore. They are suffering bad publicity from both critics and consumers. The whole 'surprise' of the IT, if it had been true, has been spoiled for months. Their publisher is suffering slightly from this too. If no-one from Bioware was willing to tell us, EA would've made them - no published would put up with this for the sake of 'surprising' the handful of people who still haven't heard of the IT.

So on the one hand Bioware has absolutely zero reasons for keeping an IT-based 'real' ending secret anymore. Literally none. There is no sane reason, from a business or even story point of view, to keep it secret if it was real. And then on top of this, Bioware employees are repeatedly telling us that the endings are now over. We had the EC, which expanded only on the literal ending interpretations, and we have countless comments by various Bioware people telling us its over.

You don't have to read between the lines. Bioware couldn't be any clearer; the endings are over.

The IT was a great theory. It had holes, but it was better than what we originally got, and if done well it could have been a storytelling masterstroke. But basic common sense should be enough to tell you now that it was a fan creation. Fans wanted the game to not be over. They wanted some proof that the endings weren't really real; that was something else coming that would make it all better. The idea of the endings being hallucinations grew from this, and then people found 'evidence' that backed this idea up. It was interesting while it lasted, but its really time to let go.

[Candidate 88766]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Why does this thread still exist? Project X is obviously false. Chris Priestly confirmed this.

BioWare has no master plan. Sorry folks. It's best if we all just accept this and move on.

Just to play Devils Advocate...Priestly is notorious for lying about DLC and upcoming features.

If everything Priestly said was true, we'd never have Legion, Kasumi, Garrus in ME2, Arrival, Javik...all those things leaked and every single time Priestly has said they're false and don't exist. 

That was a few years ago.

Given how rabid this fanbase gets at even the vaguest hint of the IT (both supporters and otherwise), and given the massive backlash over the endings, I don't think Chris is going to throw oil on the fire and lie about something releated to both the IT and the ending.