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[Yaos]

IT : the longest full retard people ever went into.

[The Heretic of Time]

JacobNZW wrote...

For those about to whine about IT, here is a little something you might wanna read. You're arguments are basically one big straw-man.

http://en.wikipedia....aw-man_argument

How are we who oppose the IT idiocy using straw-men arguments? Can you please explain this and provide us with an example? Or are you just talking BS out of your neck?

[dr888]

greetings. I watched this IT doc and although I doubt BSN will release ending I admit IT is still much beter ending than EC. finishing Leviathan left me dissapointed and bored, few gameplay mechanics that M. Gamble mentioned in last interview were just protect the drone and carry the item while being mauled by waves of reaper minions. it just shows that creativity spark is just gone.definately their worst paid sp dlc and I enjoyed all previous ones very much. and CE still does not make sense. cannon does not explain how Shep survived final run, why any choice is given in the first place: it should be a doomsday weapon not a evolutionary magic wand, and why star brat is , well...a brat. and dont let me start about his logic. I am sorry but to me it all makes sense only if we asume crucible is a reaper-creators' work, a emergency switch to which we are guided to give in our souls finally.
and seing that BSN lied about so many things (chalenging enemies for one)hiding a new ending would be least of their lies and any fan outcry would be least of EA problems. so I am still cautious IT supporter and hopeless believer in little pink (Jack\\Ashley) blue(Liara) and violet(Tali) children

[dr888]

and please dont call IT retards just because we want more than halfcocked slideshowed ending. I had that on Atari64 and Amiga ages ago. and I like my efforts to bear some fruit, even if it is just story driven game.

[XXIceColdXX]

Would redeem the series for me if this Project X happens.

[Aerenko]

IsaacShep wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

So to sum up. Clevernoob, a hardcore ITer desperate for IT DLC gets an information from another hardcore ITer who claims to have sources at Bioware that there's an IT DLC coming.
[snip irrelevant picture]

If you'd have watched the documentary, he said that he's a critic. He's doing his job, looking in to it to try and prove/dissprove it. He touched upon whether or not he believes in the IT, but never actually says.

He's not the kind of person who would make stuff like that up.

A guy makes 5 hours worth of documentary about IT, yet he's not an ITer. Right

Such thing does not imply another, as they can be excluding conditions. You can prove something yet be against it or hate it. Or you can't? Anyways, our opinions are irrelevant, and we are only discussing this matter basing ourselves on partial facts, speculation, and what we want personally, so we really just have to wait. Its a mett

[Aerenko]

2484Stryker wrote...

Why is indoc theory still a thing? EC basically blew it out of the waters. Sorry folks, but there is no master plan in hiding.

That the E.C. did not involve anything related to I.T. does not mean it is no longer a possible/viable explanation. Actually, the I.T. is stronger now... but thats just not important. Only time will tell what the destiny of this fascinating game is.

[The Heretic of Time]

dr888 wrote...
I admit IT is still much beter ending than EC.

How can you say that when IT isn't even an ending nor does it provide an ending? If IT is true than that means ME3 is missing an ending. That means ME3 is an incomplete game without an ending.

[ShepnTali]

Then ME3 is an incomplete game without the story DLC too.

[MACharlie1]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Why does this thread still exist? Project X is obviously false. Chris Priestly confirmed this.

BioWare has no master plan. Sorry folks. It's best if we all just accept this and move on.

Just to play Devils Advocate...Priestly is notorious for lying about DLC and upcoming features.

If everything Priestly said was true, we'd never have Legion, Kasumi, Garrus in ME2, Arrival, Javik...all those things leaked and every single time Priestly has said they're false and don't exist. 

That was a few years ago.

Given how rabid this fanbase gets at even the vaguest hint of the IT (both supporters and otherwise), and given the massive backlash over the endings, I don't think Chris is going to throw oil on the fire and lie about something releated to both the IT and the ending.

Javik was this year. <_<

[The Heretic of Time]

ShepnTali wrote...

Then ME3 is an incomplete game without the story DLC too.

Not true. So far all story DLC has been completely optional. The story DLC just provide extra background information that is not crucial to the story. An actual ending is crucial to the story!

[ShepnTali]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Then ME3 is an incomplete game without the story DLC too.

Not true. So far all story DLC has been completely optional. The story DLC just provide extra background information that is not crucial to the story. An actual ending is crucial to the story!

It depends how you define the terms. The base game has a beginning, middle, and end. Story DLC adds additional information, and 'ending' DLC, which is also story DLC, adds additional information. Both optional. Citing a fundamental difference is a tough sell.

Modifié par ShepnTali, 02 septembre 2012 - 12:06 .

[xbb1024]

By reading this thread, your all being indoctrination right now.

[evil laugh]

[Jawsomebob]

I would want this to be a full fledged expansion pack that you can buy a physical disk for than a DLC.

[xbb1024]

ShepnTali wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Then ME3 is an incomplete game without the story DLC too.

Not true. So far all story DLC has been completely optional. The story DLC just provide extra background information that is not crucial to the story. An actual ending is crucial to the story!

It depends how you define the terms. The base game has a beginning, middle, and end. Story DLC adds additional information, and 'ending' DLC adds additional information. Both optional. Citing a fundamental difference is a tough sell.

For me, I see additional DLC as the stuff the publishers couldn't complete before the release date, but is entirely supplemental. The ME series has a structure and a conclusion.

[RainbowDazed]

IsaacShep wrote...

So to sum up. Clevernoob, a hardcore ITer desperate for IT DLC gets an information from another hardcore ITer who claims to have sources at Bioware that there's an IT DLC coming.

****, I laughed so hard the coffee I was drinking came out through my nose. 

[Henioo]

Assuming this whole thing is true, which I doubt, it would be a really dick move to release a post ending DLC that would recquire prior DLCs. If there's going to be, say, 5 DLCs, and the last one, that is 6 DLCs, and assuming they are all around 10 pounds - that'd mean paying twice for the content that was supossed to be there in the first place.

[Raestoz]

OniTYME wrote...

I'd like to end this thread with, "Now Shut Up." But instead I got this:
http://www.holdtheli...-plotholes.2073

Your fabled "Project X" is no more real than a sasquatch riding a unicorn.

After the amount of leaks they've had...maybe...just maybe...BW have decided to double check what they are releasing so they don't leak their future DLC. 

Leviathan - the cat was out of the bag with the EC release - virtually the whole story was leaked. 

Yes I admit - Project X is wishful thinking - if BW release something like that they will be crucified either way. 

But based on BW's track record - I wouldn't believe a thing Mr Priestly says (sorry Chris officially I take what you say with a grain of salt but your Tweets are good value when your not talking BW)

Modifié par Raestoz, 02 septembre 2012 - 01:46 .

[kyban]

If project X is real, I will throw buckets of money at Bioware!

[Ithurael]

I don't honestly know how or why people still believe that the IT dream theory is real.

Clevernoob himself says it is fanfiction and now - post ec - can be used to clear all the plotholes and bs in the original ending. IT for the most part does clear up a number of plotholes but at the same time it requires a new ending.

First the IT crowed believed that the EC would be the answer

Then - post EC - they believe that project x will be the answer

Now that project x was denied they believe that it was a lie and project x will still happen or that the post breath scene will be in ME4.

You all see what is happening? People are hopping from one blind hope to another

[Restrider]

Ithurael wrote...

I don't honestly know how or why people still believe that the IT dream theory is real.

Clevernoob himself says it is fanfiction and now - post ec - can be used to clear all the plotholes and bs in the original ending. IT for the most part does clear up a number of plotholes but at the same time it requires a new ending.

First the IT crowed believed that the EC would be the answer

Then - post EC - they believe that project x will be the answer

Now that project x was denied they believe that it was a lie and project x will still happen or that the post breath scene will be in ME4.

You all see what is happening? People are hopping from one blind hope to another

Well, this is kind of true and thus the only way to find out is to wait patiently and read Marauder Shields.
Still, IT does not lose validity. It is just uncertain if the ending is literal or a dream. And we will only have clarity, if BW lets us watch into the box to find out whether the cat is dead or alive.

This whole bashing on ITers and literalists from the opposing faction is just useless. We have to consider:

- if IT is true, ME 3 has no real ending and to purchase money for an Ending DLC is... kind of a sinister marketing move.
- if the endings have to be taken literal, well, then we have a bad ending...

I still give IT a lot of credit, though the debacle with the novel "Deception" kind of shatters my opinion on the quality control at the lore frontier. So I am not sure, if I believe that BW has some kind of master plan.

Modifié par Restrider, 02 septembre 2012 - 03:18 .

[Soultaker08]

Yaos wrote...

IT : the longest full retard people ever went into.

[Ithurael]

Restrider wrote...

Well, this is kind of true and thus the only way to find out is to wait patiently and read Marauder Shields.
Still, IT does not lose validity. It is just uncertain if the ending is literal or a dream. And we will only have clarity, if BW lets us watch into the box to find out whether the cat is dead or alive.

This whole bashing on ITers and literalists from the opposing faction is just useless. We have to consider:

- if IT is true, ME 3 has no real ending and to purchase money for an Ending DLC is... kind of a sinister marketing move.
- if the endings have to be taken literal, well, then we have a bad ending...

I still give IT a lot of credit, though the debacle with the novel "Deception" kind of shatters my opinion on the quality control at the lore frontier. So I am not sure, if I believe that BW has some kind of master plan.

Why would bioware want to release a game with no ending, then release the ec to expand on that no ending then make people pay for the real ending? That isn't just greed man that is stupid. Bioware will be crucified for it. When we buy a game we enter into a kind of non-verbal agreement. This agreement is that we get a game with a beginning, middle, and end. Bioware did give us that in vanilla ME3 then expanded on that in EC. Now, all the DLC will just give more adventures in the middle part of ME3.

Deception and Dragon age 2 showed us what is to come, it is just a bad and anticlimactic ending. The bad writing theory will win.

[chimpdaddy121]

haven't read through all the page's, has anyone mentioned whether it could possibly be that terminator dlc that link to the next series of games as if I recall most of the "leaked " dlc info from that guy was actually correct

[Ithurael]

chimpdaddy121 wrote...

haven't read through all the page's, has anyone mentioned whether it could possibly be that terminator dlc that link to the next series of games as if I recall most of the "leaked " dlc info from that guy was actually correct

Terminator met the same fate as 'the truth', mass shift, and now project x

Speculations built on hope and fuled by disbelief.