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[shepdog77]

Baa Baa wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Clevernoob is just grasping for straws.

He's likely doing this so that way he can get more views on his mass effect videos for another couple months.

That's what I thought.
I thought the new Documentary he made was entertaining to watch, but near the last 20 minutes it just started to get really weird. All he talked about was rebirthing Retake Mass Effect 3 and about Project X (which I think is bs he made up).

People always have ulterior motives.  Never take anything at face value.

EDIT:  Wow, I sounded just like an IT'er.  Hypocrite much?

Modifié par shepdog77, 24 août 2012 - 04:28 .

[Wayning_Star]

shepdog77 wrote...

I mean c'mon people, the guy's name is CleverNoob. Has anyone ever meet a noob that was clever? Ever?

well, I LIKE to think of myself as clever...but..now...

[StElmo]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

I think it will depend on how well Leviathan does, but yeah, a lot might be planned, but I expect them to cut their losses after two or three paid SP DLCs. 

I beat ME 35 times. I beat ME2 just as many.

I barely have it in me to start up one of my FemSheps for ME3, of which I have several. I have been a member of this community since before BSN. I have done art, stories, you name it. I have all the DLC, even the weapons and AA outfits.

And I don't even know if I have it in me to wade through Leviathan. Or Omega. What is the point if it always ends in completely invalidating the peace between the geth and quarians? Or if Shepard dies so he can enslave the Reapers and subjugate the galaxy? Or if everyone is just going to be mind raped, making husks alive and what have you?

What is the point of helping that damn sueberry Aria take back her pisshole of a station? Why bother finding Leviathan if he's just going to die at the end of all my games?

I just don't see how these DLCs can be successful... There is no point.

Exactly. It's such a muted, thematically bleargh, secondary world breaking 15 minutes that there is no point leading to that.

I could play ME2 lots if I wanted, because of the awesome suicide mission, it was worth it, y'know?

[Lokanaiya]

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

I can't be arsed watching the whole 1 hour 47 minutes but answer me this

If Shepard was Indoctrinated then why didn't the Prothean VI pick up that he was indoctrinated given that he was clearly able to sense that Kai Lang and The Illusive Man were indeed indoctrinated yet doesn't see Shepard like this, furthermore its stated that the Indoctrination process is slow so if there were stages of indoctrination the VI would have noted that.

It's seems like a pretty big plot hole in the IT, does this guy explain this?

If Prothean VIs can detect indoctrination, then how was the Prothean version of the Crucible sabotaged from within?

Actually, it's far more likely that what they detect are Reaper tech IMPLANTS, the presence of which always mean that the person is indoctrinated but the absence of which does not neccessarily mean that the person isn't. In fact, as far as I know, the only people that Prothean VIs have called indoctrinated were Saren, Kai Leng, and probably TIM, who all have Reaper-tech implants.

[Baa Baa]

shepdog77 wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Clevernoob is just grasping for straws.

He's likely doing this so that way he can get more views on his mass effect videos for another couple months.

That's what I thought.
I thought the new Documentary he made was entertaining to watch, but near the last 20 minutes it just started to get really weird. All he talked about was rebirthing Retake Mass Effect 3 and about Project X (which I think is bs he made up).

People always have ulterior motives.  Never take anything at face value.

EDIT:  Wow, I sounded just like an IT'er.  Hypocrite much?

Lol @ the EDIT.
But yeah I think he either said that to cause controversy on the boards (lol that lasted really long), promote IT a little more, and or promote his channel.

[Gogzilla]

lol come on.
If they told me that not only the original endings but now also the EC endings are all not the real endings.

[RiptideX1090]

StElmo wrote...

Exactly. It's such a muted, thematically bleargh, secondary world breaking 15 minutes that there is no point leading to that.

I could play ME2 lots if I wanted, because of the awesome suicide mission, it was worth it, y'know?

Hell yeah. I loved playing ME2 with all the DLC, then storming the Collector base with my team of big guddamn heroes, riding off into the sunset for werabouts unknown, my team at my back and an enemy that you just know you are going to enjoy mopping the galactic floor with.

And... none of it mattered. So what if your whole team makes it out of the suicide mission? Half of them desert you. So what if you kept or destroyed the base. So what if you saved the council. So what if you saved the Rachni. So what if you got peace between the quarians or the geth.

In the end, ME1 and ME2 had you winning and feeling like a ****ing badass when it was over. ME3? You don't win at ME3.

You pick how you want to lose.

[StElmo]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

StElmo wrote...

Exactly. It's such a muted, thematically bleargh, secondary world breaking 15 minutes that there is no point leading to that.

I could play ME2 lots if I wanted, because of the awesome suicide mission, it was worth it, y'know?

Hell yeah. I loved playing ME2 with all the DLC, then storming the Collector base with my team of big guddamn heroes, riding off into the sunset for werabouts unknown, my team at my back and an enemy that you just know you are going to enjoy mopping the galactic floor with.

And... none of it mattered. So what if your whole team makes it out of the suicide mission? Half of them desert you. So what if you kept or destroyed the base. So what if you saved the council. So what if you saved the Rachni. So what if you got peace between the quarians or the geth.

In the end, ME1 and ME2 had you winning and feeling like a ****ing badass when it was over. ME3? You don't win at ME3.

You pick how you want to lose.

I don't mind losing, provided it makes sense. But ME3 didn't even make sense.

[Ithurael]

RiptideX1090 wrote...


In the end, ME1 and ME2 had you winning and feeling like a ****ing badass when it was over. ME3? You don't win at ME3.

You pick how you want to lose.

Correction: You pick how Starkid (mac walters) wants to win. You "kinda" win from one of those choices

[Wayning_Star]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

I think it will depend on how well Leviathan does, but yeah, a lot might be planned, but I expect them to cut their losses after two or three paid SP DLCs. 

I beat ME 35 times. I beat ME2 just as many.

I barely have it in me to start up one of my FemSheps for ME3, of which I have several. I have been a member of this community since before BSN. I have done art, stories, you name it. I have all the DLC, even the weapons and AA outfits.

And I don't even know if I have it in me to wade through Leviathan. Or Omega. What is the point if it always ends in completely invalidating the peace between the geth and quarians? Or if Shepard dies so he can enslave the Reapers and subjugate the galaxy? Or if everyone is just going to be mind raped, making husks alive and what have you?

What is the point of helping that damn sueberry Aria take back her pisshole of a station? Why bother finding Leviathan if he's just going to die at the end of all my games?

I just don't see how these DLCs can be successful... There is no point.

well, you'd have to admit,it's just a video game first, then take Sheps word for it that it's all worth the hassle. What the heck is mind rape? Indoctrination?

Thats my canon anyway..lol

[Wayning_Star]

StElmo wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

StElmo wrote...

Exactly. It's such a muted, thematically bleargh, secondary world breaking 15 minutes that there is no point leading to that.

I could play ME2 lots if I wanted, because of the awesome suicide mission, it was worth it, y'know?

Hell yeah. I loved playing ME2 with all the DLC, then storming the Collector base with my team of big guddamn heroes, riding off into the sunset for werabouts unknown, my team at my back and an enemy that you just know you are going to enjoy mopping the galactic floor with.

And... none of it mattered. So what if your whole team makes it out of the suicide mission? Half of them desert you. So what if you kept or destroyed the base. So what if you saved the council. So what if you saved the Rachni. So what if you got peace between the quarians or the geth.

In the end, ME1 and ME2 had you winning and feeling like a ****ing badass when it was over. ME3? You don't win at ME3.

You pick how you want to lose.

I don't mind losing, provided it makes sense. But ME3 didn't even make sense.

Oh it ain't that bad...sheesh..  winning isn't everything but losing sucks...but Shep doesn't lose, the reapers are stopped right?

[StElmo]

Wayning_Star wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

I think it will depend on how well Leviathan does, but yeah, a lot might be planned, but I expect them to cut their losses after two or three paid SP DLCs. 

I beat ME 35 times. I beat ME2 just as many.

I barely have it in me to start up one of my FemSheps for ME3, of which I have several. I have been a member of this community since before BSN. I have done art, stories, you name it. I have all the DLC, even the weapons and AA outfits.

And I don't even know if I have it in me to wade through Leviathan. Or Omega. What is the point if it always ends in completely invalidating the peace between the geth and quarians? Or if Shepard dies so he can enslave the Reapers and subjugate the galaxy? Or if everyone is just going to be mind raped, making husks alive and what have you?

What is the point of helping that damn sueberry Aria take back her pisshole of a station? Why bother finding Leviathan if he's just going to die at the end of all my games?

I just don't see how these DLCs can be successful... There is no point.

well, you'd have to admit,it's just a video game first, then take Sheps word for it that it's all worth the hassle. What the heck is mind rape? Indoctrination?

Thats my canon anyway..lol

Lord of the Rings is just a book...

[RiptideX1090]

Ithurael wrote...
Correction: You pick how Starkid (mac walters) wants to win. You "kinda" win from one of those choices

No. You lose in each ending. In one, you completely and utterly invalidate Legion, his relevance in the past two games, half of Tali's character development, the entire second act of the third game, and three games of build up regarding the geth and quarians, and you ensure that any synthetics built down the line will be well aware that organics are willing to sacrifice them whenever it becomes necessary, even the one who fought so hard for peace. In the next, you sell your soul to the machine devils so you can enslave them, likely losing your mind in the long run and continuing the cycle. In the last, you open Pandora's box, destroying biodiversity, forcing implants on everyone, making husks come to life, and god only knows what poor David Archer is going through once he's plugged into the geth AND the Reapers. And of course there is the last one where you basically let the Reapers win because reasons.

In none of those choices do you come out the victor. You come out a war criminal after paying a heavy price for something that's already got an insane price tag. Mordin, Legion, Thane, and the billions dead from the war aren't enough? Victus and Kurin? Watching Earth Fall and Thessia get wiped out? That wasn't enough of a price? We had to tack on Genocide, Slavery, and Rape? Then cut the game, not even letting us experience the consequences of the action we take, instead leaving us to speculate about it?

It's all garbage. I hate Bioware for doing this to my favorite franchise. All because of their bloody artistic integrity. Funny how they didn't show much integrity before, what with the promises of not getting an ABC ending and all.

Modifié par RiptideX1090, 24 août 2012 - 04:44 .

[StElmo]

Wayning_Star wrote...

StElmo wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

StElmo wrote...

Exactly. It's such a muted, thematically bleargh, secondary world breaking 15 minutes that there is no point leading to that.

I could play ME2 lots if I wanted, because of the awesome suicide mission, it was worth it, y'know?

Hell yeah. I loved playing ME2 with all the DLC, then storming the Collector base with my team of big guddamn heroes, riding off into the sunset for werabouts unknown, my team at my back and an enemy that you just know you are going to enjoy mopping the galactic floor with.

And... none of it mattered. So what if your whole team makes it out of the suicide mission? Half of them desert you. So what if you kept or destroyed the base. So what if you saved the council. So what if you saved the Rachni. So what if you got peace between the quarians or the geth.

In the end, ME1 and ME2 had you winning and feeling like a ****ing badass when it was over. ME3? You don't win at ME3.

You pick how you want to lose.

I don't mind losing, provided it makes sense. But ME3 didn't even make sense.

Oh it ain't that bad...sheesh..  winning isn't everything but losing sucks...but Shep doesn't lose, the reapers are stopped right?

He had to sacrifice the integrity of the plot, lore and the secondary world of Mass Effect.

I don't mind losing, as I said, but it has to make sense.

[Wayning_Star]

Lokanaiya wrote...

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

I can't be arsed watching the whole 1 hour 47 minutes but answer me this

If Shepard was Indoctrinated then why didn't the Prothean VI pick up that he was indoctrinated given that he was clearly able to sense that Kai Lang and The Illusive Man were indeed indoctrinated yet doesn't see Shepard like this, furthermore its stated that the Indoctrination process is slow so if there were stages of indoctrination the VI would have noted that.

It's seems like a pretty big plot hole in the IT, does this guy explain this?

If Prothean VIs can detect indoctrination, then how was the Prothean version of the Crucible sabotaged from within?

Actually, it's far more likely that what they detect are Reaper tech IMPLANTS, the presence of which always mean that the person is indoctrinated but the absence of which does not neccessarily mean that the person isn't. In fact, as far as I know, the only people that Prothean VIs have called indoctrinated were Saren, Kai Leng, and probably TIM, who all have Reaper-tech implants.

Good point! but I think the Protheans were more paranoid than that when came to reaper control features..they scan the suspected brain for tell tales of reaper indoctrination. Physical changes, something they can 'hang a hat on'. Shep has reaper tech implants..but the probes didn't kick off any alarms.

[RatedHForHuey]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Fyi guys, I never really believed in Project X anyway, and I stopped believing in the IT when the EC was released.

You can all stop treating me like an idiot now

No. IT Theory states that everything after harbingers beam is a dream. 

[Wayning_Star]

[/quote]

Oh it ain't that bad...sheesh..  winning isn't everything but losing sucks...but Shep doesn't lose, the reapers are stopped right?[/quote]

He had to sacrifice the integrity of the plot, lore and the secondary world of Mass Effect.

I don't mind losing, as I said, but it has to make sense.

[/quote]

I don't watch the lore as much as I should,especially if it gouges too many holes in my game fun.. I bought it, so I rationalize how to live with that decision, no matter how much I have to sacrifice to save the MEU from the reaper threat. ;^]

[Ithurael]

Wayning_Star wrote...


He had to sacrifice the integrity of the plot, lore and the secondary world of Mass Effect.

I don't mind losing, as I said, but it has to make sense.

Talk about casulties....

What story has done that? What villain in the history of stories required the protagonist to sacrifice the plot, the mythology, narrative coherence, integrity, and secondary world to stop him? Truly epic lol

Modifié par Ithurael, 24 août 2012 - 04:51 .

[Wayning_Star]

I picked synthesis, so EVERYBODY wins!!

(never have to remember what your LI's eyecolor is from then on!! minor plus..but...)

ducking out and going to the grocery store..lol

[Lokanaiya]

Wayning_Star wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

I can't be arsed watching the whole 1 hour 47 minutes but answer me this

If Shepard was Indoctrinated then why didn't the Prothean VI pick up that he was indoctrinated given that he was clearly able to sense that Kai Lang and The Illusive Man were indeed indoctrinated yet doesn't see Shepard like this, furthermore its stated that the Indoctrination process is slow so if there were stages of indoctrination the VI would have noted that.

It's seems like a pretty big plot hole in the IT, does this guy explain this?

If Prothean VIs can detect indoctrination, then how was the Prothean version of the Crucible sabotaged from within?

Actually, it's far more likely that what they detect are Reaper tech IMPLANTS, the presence of which always mean that the person is indoctrinated but the absence of which does not neccessarily mean that the person isn't. In fact, as far as I know, the only people that Prothean VIs have called indoctrinated were Saren, Kai Leng, and probably TIM, who all have Reaper-tech implants.

Good point! but I think the Protheans were more paranoid than that when came to reaper control features..they scan the suspected brain for tell tales of reaper indoctrination. Physical changes, something they can 'hang a hat on'. Shep has reaper tech implants..but the probes didn't kick off any alarms.

Since when has Shepard had Reaper implants?

There's also the fact that the VIs couldn't detect indoctrination on the agents that sabotaged the Crucible and the like, and you'd think that a Prothean VI would be better at identifying biological changes in the actual Protheans, not the primitive races who, last they knew, were eating flies and worshipping real Protheans.

[CoolioThane]

Yes ending dlc is finished...but what about post-ending? If I see somewhere post-ending DLC confirmed to be not happening I'll believe PX not being real

[RiptideX1090]

CoolioThane wrote...

Yes ending dlc is finished...but what about post-ending? If I see somewhere post-ending DLC confirmed to be not happening I'll believe PX not being real

How are they supposed to do post ending DLC if in 3 out of 4 endings the protagonist IS DEAD?

[Rafficus III]

Chris Priestly wrote...

You can keep discussing this if you wish, but it is false. Sorry.

We have aid numerous times now, we have "ended the endings". While there is more DLC for both Single and Multiplayer still to come, there is no more "endings" DLC.

Specifically at what point during the game does DLC no longer become viable? Is the cutoff during Cronos Stations, Earth, or when we mee Catalyst? I ask because I'd like to see my assets at work, much like what happened with DA:O and DA2. 

[Wayning_Star]

Lokanaiya wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

I can't be arsed watching the whole 1 hour 47 minutes but answer me this

If Shepard was Indoctrinated then why didn't the Prothean VI pick up that he was indoctrinated given that he was clearly able to sense that Kai Lang and The Illusive Man were indeed indoctrinated yet doesn't see Shepard like this, furthermore its stated that the Indoctrination process is slow so if there were stages of indoctrination the VI would have noted that.

It's seems like a pretty big plot hole in the IT, does this guy explain this?

If Prothean VIs can detect indoctrination, then how was the Prothean version of the Crucible sabotaged from within?

Actually, it's far more likely that what they detect are Reaper tech IMPLANTS, the presence of which always mean that the person is indoctrinated but the absence of which does not neccessarily mean that the person isn't. In fact, as far as I know, the only people that Prothean VIs have called indoctrinated were Saren, Kai Leng, and probably TIM, who all have Reaper-tech implants.

Good point! but I think the Protheans were more paranoid than that when came to reaper control features..they scan the suspected brain for tell tales of reaper indoctrination. Physical changes, something they can 'hang a hat on'. Shep has reaper tech implants..but the probes didn't kick off any alarms.

Since when has Shepard had Reaper implants?

There's also the fact that the VIs couldn't detect indoctrination on the agents that sabotaged the Crucible and the like, and you'd think that a Prothean VI would be better at identifying biological changes in the actual Protheans, not the primitive races who, last they knew, were eating flies and worshipping real Protheans.

well VIs are only so smart..if their scanners are hacked or by passed...oops. Shep got those when he was resuscitated by Miranda and the indoctrinated man... lore I DID notice by golly!!