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So how old are our companions?


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Any estimations?

Modifié par DarkGlaber, 25 août 2012 - 12:09 .


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sylvanaerie

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Origins or DA2? I'll take a stab at guessing.

Origins:
Wynne 50 (I cheated, this is her toolset age, but it seems to fit--old enough to be old, but young enough she can still get about and adventure)
Alistair about 21 or so
Leliana, 29-30 (She mentions to Wynne she's older than she looks)
Zevran 29-30
Sten (unsure, I don't know Kossith normal life span) middleaged
Oghren (again, unsure of his race's norm) middleaged
Morrigan 24 or so
Loghain 50 (he's approx 20 during the war with Orlais and it's 30 years later)

DA2 (beginning of the 10 year stretch)
Bethany/Carver 18 year old twins (this is confirmed by Leandra in a convo) and the only age I'm sure of
Varric (as with Oghren) 25
Isabela 29
Fenris 23
Anders 25
Aveline 26
Merrill (Dalish live extended lives and I imagine its not unusual to train decades as a keeper's apprentice) but I'm guessing the equivalent of 22 or so in human years
Sebastian 25? (He was sent away when he was 15 to the Chantry, and then recounts a number of years he's been gone from Starkhaven to Hawke in a later convo I forget what number he gave--counting away a couple years from that to when he's first introduced in Act 1 I'm guessing he's 25)

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David Gaider once said that Morrigan was in here late 20s, early 30s. She doesn't look that old to me though, so I pretty much disregard it.

Modifié par chrisnabal, 25 août 2012 - 09:56 .


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I think Sebastian Vael is around the age of 28 by Act3.

I did the math once. The conversation he has about his grandfather states he was 13 when he gave him the bow, and he was sent to the Chantry shortly after that. In Act3 he mentions that he hasn't seen Starkhaven in 15 years.

So around the start of the game i guess he's... 22-24?

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chrisnabal wrote...

David Gaider once said that Morrigan was in here late 20s, early 30s. She doesn't look that old to me though, so I pretty much disregard it.


How sad for you.
My Grandmother is 56 but she doesn't look it. DISREGARDING HER AGE.

@Sylvanaerie

Where are you getting Zevran's age from? I've never heard it mentioned anywhere.


Edit: max snark

Modifié par Alexandrine Delassixe, 26 août 2012 - 12:51 .


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I dunno, as I said, just a guess/speculation (toolset sets him at 24 but he seems/looks older than that). The elf looks like he's been ridden hard and put to bed wet. I didn't know Morrigan was supposed to be late 20's either, she seems a lot younger/naive because of her one note world view, but that can be attributed to her upbringing I guess.

As I said, the only one I'm absolutely sure of is Bethany/Carver because there is actual mention of their age in the convo with Mama Hawke.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 26 août 2012 - 08:55 .


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Here is a repost of something I wrote in the Fenris thread...



Harle Cerulean wrote...

Fenris' age is something I waver back and forth on on a bit, but I find it difficult to say early 20s even at the start of the game.

He's been running from Danarius for three years at that point; we don't know how long he served Danarius after recieving the tattoos, but presumably it was a decent amount of time. Before that, he was likely fully-grown when he won the competition for the boon. So assuming he was 18-20 when he won, he then served Danarius for an unknown amount of time.

Don't forget that adulthood comes much earlier in a time setting like this. Fenris could certainly have been as young as 15 when he fought in the competition. For all we know, the competition was composed of all similarly aged young men for the reason that the martial training (post-lyrium) would take better on a younger person, and that Danarius would have the perfect weapon in the prime of his (the recipient's) life for as long as possible, making the most of the investment.

As far as ages go in general, I would say that it's difficult to gauge the ages of most of them, particularly Fenris, Anders, Isabela, and Hawke. The default male Hawke certainly seems to be in his late 20s to early 30s based on appearance alone, and the beard makes him look even older than that, but that is just because of societal norms in mostly Christian Western cultures where young full-bearded men are uncommon (to us as players). The remaining three are problematic in that from what we know of them, they have lived a lot of life.

It is times like this that I really wish they had been more consistent with the time lapse from Awakening to DA2 in relation to Anders. The time overlap is really bad and requires considerable hand waving that is not required for anyone else. It's irritating. We don't even know when mages undertake their Harrowing, whether it's based on age alone, level of skill and training, or a combination of the two (which I think most likely), also putting into question the possible age of our DAO mage Warden. We know that Anders made several escape attempts, but not over low long a period. The only other clue to Anders's age is that he talks about Karl as if were a peer (they were apprentices together), and Karl has grey in his hair (some people age worse than others, and again the beard does not help).

The time lapse of the game is also problematic because the appearance of Hawke and all of Hawke's friends does not change. It's easier to consider that a person might not change too much from 23-30, but seems less likely from 33-40.

The only other thing I can point to as to how the writers use ages, David Gaider specifically, is in Asunder when Rhys is described as "rapidly approaching his fortieth" year, putting him from 37-39. In addition, if you examined the timelines carefully in his novels, you would be able to figure out how old Maric was when he ascended to the throne, how old Cailan was when Alistair (we assume it was Alistair, yes I know this is not confirmed) was born, the age Cailan was when he died, and infer how old Alistair was in DAO... All of which I'm not really going to examine at the moment, but it is possible through careful reading. (A disclaimer should be added the David says the timeline between the novels and the games is somewhat inaccurate.)

My point with the above paragraph is that unless it is specifically mentioned that a character is young (because of their experience or maturity level), like Maric in The Stolen Throne -- I also got the impression that Duncan was very young in The Calling, younger than 20 -- Dragon Age characters are skewed as older, mature people who have the considerable life experience to influence their personalities and opinions.

Read into that what you will about the ages of our various followers.

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It is hard to tell because people mature according to what they experience. I a setting like in Dragon Age, it can be hard to tell. But according to how they look, act, and what their history is, this is my guess.  

Origins:
Alistair: 17-18
Sten: 30
Zevran: 30
Morrigan: 19-20
Leliana: 24
Wynne: 45
Oghren: 28
Shale: 200

DA2 at the beginning
Carver/Bethany: 17
Merrill: 15 
Isabella: 25
Fenris: 20
Varric: 24
Aveline: 22
Anders: 22

Modifié par Sejborg, 26 août 2012 - 01:03 .


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Just a few guesses for fun. I can't remember all the information I had when I came up with these but I remember getting it while looking through past threads like this.

Origins
Alistair: 22
Morrigan: 22
Leliana: 33 (looks young for her age, Wynne seems to see her as two decades or so younger than her)
Zevran: 24-28
Oghren: 39
Sten: 45
Wynne: 51
Loghain 47

At the beginning of DA2
Hawke: 23 (I heard that Gamlen can talk about Leandra leaving while pregnant with Hawke 25 years ago. He says this during act 1, and I assume he rounded up, because he's Gamlen and that's what he'd do.The prologue is a year before that.)
Anders: 25
Aveline: 24-30 (Hardest one for me. She seems more experienced than the other DA2 companions, but she's young to be a guard captain)
Bethany: 18
Carver: 18
Fenris: 21
Isabela: 28
Merrill: 23
Varric: 34
Sebastian: 26

Modifié par Its_a_Catdemon, 26 août 2012 - 05:37 .


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Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

chrisnabal wrote...

David Gaider once said that Morrigan was in here late 20s, early 30s. She doesn't look that old to me though, so I pretty much disregard it.


How sad for you.
My Grandmother is 56 but she doesn't look it. DISREGARDING HER AGE.


Well the nice thing here is Morrigan is a character in a video game...so we have the luxury of making her any age we want!

In all seriousness though, early 30s is just too old given her appearance. Even late 20s is pushing it to me, but I think he just gave an answer when asked and didn't really think about it. I suppose it could be considered canon but I really don't care if it is. Looking at the other posts here people seem to place her younger, which makes more sense to me even if they are guesses.

Modifié par chrisnabal, 26 août 2012 - 06:13 .


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I'm very impressed that people did the research to find every single companions age.
*claps* well done. But really to be honest, does it matter? Or are you just curious?

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Here are my estimations:

Origins:
Alistair: 22
Morrigan: 25
Leliana: 31
Zevran: 28
Oghren: 48
Sten: 45
Loghain: 50
Wynne: 50

Dragon Age 2 (Beginning):
Hawke: 22
Bethany/Carver:18
Anders: 25-26
Fenris: 25
Aveline: 24
Isabela: 27
Merrill: 20
Varric: 32
Sebastian: 25

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I definitely don't think Alistair and Morrigan are teenagers like some people suspect. For the most part I think teens stand out in DAO, like that one girl in Redcliffe (I think it was Kaitlyn or something). Although with the older ones it is harder to tell I suppose. My estimate for Alistair is 21-25. And for Morrigan, 27-29. 

Izzy - 28 (Act 1)
Fenris - 24
Merrill - 22
Anders - 27

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dao
Alistair- 24
Morrigan-28
Leliana-31
Zevran- 27
Oghren-46
Sten-39
Logain- 52
Wynne-56

da2 (beggining of act1)
C/B-18
Anders-23
Fenris-24
Aveline-28
Isabela-25
Merrill-21
Varric-29
Sebastian-25

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Alistair's behavior seems much more mid-twenties for me too. Romance incompetence aside, and despite his goofiness he seems a lot more confident in his abilities than the likes of Carver and Bethany (who are both teenagers). In combat he's more like Hawke - calm and levelheaded during and after fights, very much at home with his chosen role (tanker). If he were a lot younger then he'd have to be some kind of prodigy to achieve that kind of focus (which would be odd since no one ever mentions it).

Modifié par TBastian, 17 octobre 2012 - 10:50 .


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Ha! I am the OP, I just created this thread to see if I could actually post in these forums, then I realized I can't delete my threads, so I left it like this, can't believe it actually had replies :P