i didnt state a facto Ventus wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
i get the feeling u didn't ever play these games
I've played through ME3 about 14 times. ME2 about 20 times, and ME1 maybe 6 or 7 times.
But, y'know, not according to you.
dreman9999 wrote...
Did you missed the video log were TIM is trying to get control of EDI agien so he can take back the normady and can't because she is unshackled?o Ventus wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
i get the feeling u didn't ever play these games
I've played through ME3 about 14 times. ME2 about 20 times, and ME1 maybe 6 or 7 times.
But, y'know, not according to you.
MerchantGOL wrote...
i didnt state a fact
get some reading comprehension would you
Modifié par o Ventus, 25 août 2012 - 08:40 .
1. BS.EnvyTB075 wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
you dont see how shepard making the ultimate sacrafice for the good of the gslsxy, while keeping the tone of choice and consiqunce the game has had, with out comprimising and giving a phoned in ride off into the sunset ending, as well as creating an intresting new status quo for the universe would appeal to some one?EnvyTB075 wrote...
I still don't understand how anyone can say they have an emotional investment in Mass Effect, look at the endings (or the game for some of us, myself included) and say "Yeah, that was amazing".
for a pure thematic stand point the music and shooting when shepard made his choice was perfect, and watching the wave spread across the galaxy is evrry bit as epic a visusal as the serise deserved for its ending
1. Shepard had already made the ultimate sacrifice, this happened in ME2 when she was killed by the Collectors. Her second death does absolutely nothing for the thematics. Shes already given her life, why is it that this time it suddenly means something
2. Ah yes, "choice". I was barely given any choices in dialogue, the only renegade/paragon choices were with TIM, Cortez only got one of those options, and everything else was turned into War Asset points that are dwarfed by my uber-N7 squad from MP, who are apparently worth more than the entire Turian, Quarian and Geth militaries combined. "Choices" in this game are meaningless, since it doesn't actually affect the outcome.
3. Synthesis is stupid, and you should feel bad for saying its "interesting", let alone implying that its a good thing.
So no, can't see how people can like it.
....really? Retarded to a degree?o Ventus wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Did you missed the video log were TIM is trying to get control of EDI agien so he can take back the normady and can't because she is unshackled?o Ventus wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
i get the feeling u didn't ever play these games
I've played through ME3 about 14 times. ME2 about 20 times, and ME1 maybe 6 or 7 times.
But, y'know, not according to you.
No, I didn't.
How is this connected to EDI being forced into submission while shackled. "Shackled" means she doesn't operate at full capacity, and her functions are retarded to a degree, it doesn't mean that she's forced into doing anything.
Modifié par MissMaster_2, 25 août 2012 - 08:38 .
MissMaster_2 wrote...
....really? Retarded to a degree?o Ventus wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Did you missed the video log were TIM is trying to get control of EDI agien so he can take back the normady and can't because she is unshackled?o Ventus wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
i get the feeling u didn't ever play these games
I've played through ME3 about 14 times. ME2 about 20 times, and ME1 maybe 6 or 7 times.
But, y'know, not according to you.
No, I didn't.
How is this connected to EDI being forced into submission while shackled. "Shackled" means she doesn't operate at full capacity, and her functions are retarded to a degree, it doesn't mean that she's forced into doing anything.
Modifié par o Ventus, 25 août 2012 - 08:40 .
dreman9999 wrote...
1. BS.
2.EMS is effected by choices. EMS effects endings....So choices effect endings. Don't hate because you have more then one path to getEMS.
3. Synthesis is implantation. It already is happening in the ME universe via grey boxes,biotic implants,quarians, and Shepards implants.
MissMaster_2 wrote...
....really? Retarded to a degree?
Unshackled means she is free.
Modifié par EnvyTB075, 25 août 2012 - 08:41 .
No, shackled means she does what she is programed to do. The reason she is limited is becuase her programing order her. In the video, we see TIM trying to control via the false safe he order to have programed into her.....Aka,the people who created her and programed her had programs in her to force her to do what ever they told her or orderedher to do.o Ventus wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
Did you missed the video log were TIM is trying to get control of EDI agien so he can take back the normady and can't because she is unshackled?o Ventus wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
i get the feeling u didn't ever play these games
I've played through ME3 about 14 times. ME2 about 20 times, and ME1 maybe 6 or 7 times.
But, y'know, not according to you.
No, I didn't.
How is this connected to EDI being forced into submission while shackled. "Shackled" means she doesn't operate at full capacity, and her functions are retarded to a degree, it doesn't mean that she's forced into doing anything.
you made the choice to play MP, that is a choice, you can not play MP just l ike you can choose the geth over the quarriansEnvyTB075 wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
1. BS.
2.EMS is effected by choices. EMS effects endings....So choices effect endings. Don't hate because you have more then one path to getEMS.
3. Synthesis is implantation. It already is happening in the ME universe via grey boxes,biotic implants,quarians, and Shepards implants.
1. Nope.
2. Strip away all the SP choices and leave my MP choice and i still "unlock" all the endings. My choices mean nothing.
dreman9999 wrote...
And it didn't work after she was unshackled,a state were she can rewrite her programing.
dreman9999 wrote...
you made the choice to play MP, that is a choice, you can not play MP
just l ike you can choose the geth over the quarrians
dreman9999 wrote...
3. Synthesis is not augmentation. While ME3 tries hard, it is not Deus Ex.
Except it is, go read the evolution comic book
Modifié par EnvyTB075, 25 août 2012 - 08:48 .
dreman9999 wrote...
No, shackled means she does what she is programed to do. The reason she is limited is becuase her programing order her. In the video, we see TIM trying to control via the false safe he order to have programed into her.....Aka,the people who created her and programed her had programs in her to force her to do what ever they told her or orderedher to do.
And it didn't work after she was unshackled,a state were she can rewrite her programing.
Lol, yes. She can make choices that she couldn't because she had AI constraints in her software. She only had access to some of the Normandy's systems now she is free do almost what ever she wants with the ship. She is a rouge AI now.EnvyTB075 wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
1. BS.
2.EMS is effected by choices. EMS effects endings....So choices effect endings. Don't hate because you have more then one path to getEMS.
3. Synthesis is implantation. It already is happening in the ME universe via grey boxes,biotic implants,quarians, and Shepards implants.
1. Nope.
2. Strip away all the SP choices and leave my MP choice and i still "unlock" all the endings. My choices mean nothing.
3. Synthesis is not augmentation. While ME3 tries hard, it is not Deus Ex.MissMaster_2 wrote...
....really? Retarded to a degree?
Unshackled means she is free.
lol, nope.
Modifié par MissMaster_2, 25 août 2012 - 08:46 .
MerchantGOL wrote...
Except it is, go read the evolution comic book
1. Yes it is.EnvyTB075 wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
1. BS.
2.EMS is effected by choices. EMS effects endings....So choices effect endings. Don't hate because you have more then one path to getEMS.
3. Synthesis is implantation. It already is happening in the ME universe via grey boxes,biotic implants,quarians, and Shepards implants.
1. Nope.
2. Strip away all the SP choices and leave my MP choice and i still "unlock" all the endings. My choices mean nothing.
3. Synthesis is not augmentation. While ME3 tries hard, it is not Deus Ex.MissMaster_2 wrote...
....really? Retarded to a degree?
Unshackled means she is free.
lol, nope.
Wrongo Ventus wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
Except it is, go read the evolution comic book
Ok, neither Synthesis nor Deus Ex happen in Evolution.
And that is what programing does. It also, forces the synthetic to do it's programing. Ask your self this, why does cerberus have a failsafe to control EDI if they did not think they could get her to do what they wanted?o Ventus wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
No, shackled means she does what she is programed to do. The reason she is limited is becuase her programing order her. In the video, we see TIM trying to control via the false safe he order to have programed into her.....Aka,the people who created her and programed her had programs in her to force her to do what ever they told her or orderedher to do.
And it didn't work after she was unshackled,a state were she can rewrite her programing.
Shackle: A restraint or check to action or progress. Often used in the plural.
3: To restrict, confine, or hamper.
dreman9999 wrote...
1. Yes it is.
2.yOU ONLY ABLE TO UNLOCK ALL THE ENDING BECUASE OF YOU EMS. YOU EMSIS BASED ON YOUR CHOICES.
3.Synthesis in it very nature is augmentation. How in the world is it not. The very concept of synthesis is to enhance organic life. The very meaning of augment is enhance.
4. Unshackled does mean she is free. She writes her own progaming. A machine is only a slave to who every write their and controle their programing. If she controls and writes her programing, she is a slave to only herself.
This.dreman9999 wrote...
And that is what programing does. It also, forces the synthetic to do it's programing. Ask your self this, why does cerberus have a failsafe to control EDI if they did not think they could get her to do what they wanted?o Ventus wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
No, shackled means she does what she is programed to do. The reason she is limited is becuase her programing order her. In the video, we see TIM trying to control via the false safe he order to have programed into her.....Aka,the people who created her and programed her had programs in her to force her to do what ever they told her or orderedher to do.
And it didn't work after she was unshackled,a state were she can rewrite her programing.
Shackle: A restraint or check to action or progress. Often used in the plural.
3: To restrict, confine, or hamper.
MerchantGOL wrote...
Wrongo Ventus wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
Except it is, go read the evolution comic book
Ok, neither Synthesis nor Deus Ex happen in Evolution.
in Evolution the Ilsuive man gain his implants thrugh an energy transfence he is agumented through energy, just liek syntheisis,
1....What does this even mean?EnvyTB075 wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
And it didn't work after she was unshackled,a state were she can rewrite her programing.
Which is at 100% efficiency.dreman9999 wrote...
you made the choice to play MP, that is a choice, you can not play MP
just l ike you can choose the geth over the quarrians
Thankyou for outlining the problem, choosing to play MP in ME3 completely negates everything you've done in the other two games. My choices don't matter.dreman9999 wrote...
3. Synthesis is not augmentation. While ME3 tries hard, it is not Deus Ex.
Except it is, go read the evolution comic book
Right, because surgcially implanting oneself with physical augmentations ala Cybernetic Shepard is absolutely the same as being hit by a wave of light and suddenly having cybernetics and being able to "understand AI's". That makes total sense....not.
I now know why you guys like the ending so much. You simply don't care.
Indoctrination can be done via implantation or indoctriantion waves. And he can only get the eyes via implantation.o Ventus wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
Wrongo Ventus wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
Except it is, go read the evolution comic book
Ok, neither Synthesis nor Deus Ex happen in Evolution.
in Evolution the Ilsuive man gain his implants thrugh an energy transfence he is agumented through energy, just liek syntheisis,
The Illusive Man is indoctrinated in Evolution. Notice how his eyes are identical to Saren's.
cause he has implants, cause he is agumented, thank you for backing me upo Ventus wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
Wrongo Ventus wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
Except it is, go read the evolution comic book
Ok, neither Synthesis nor Deus Ex happen in Evolution.
in Evolution the Ilsuive man gain his implants thrugh an energy transfence he is agumented through energy, just liek syntheisis,
The Illusive Man is indoctrinated in Evolution. Notice how his eyes are identical to Saren's.
dreman9999 wrote...
And that is what programing does. It also, forces the synthetic to do it's programing.
Ask your self this, why does cerberus have a failsafe to control EDI if they did not think they could get her to do what they wanted?
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