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brushyourteeth wrote...

I think the Free Marches are kind of like the U.S. or (probably more like) Canada where there are individual "city-states" with their own government, but they're technically all bound together in some way.

Kirkwall is in the south-east part of the Free Marches, across the Waking Sea from Ferelden. :)



Oh okay cool :D
Are border lines drawn? I want to see how big Starkhaven is. Can't see anything...staring too hard.
Now I remember! Someone was comparing the size of Fereldan to that of Kirkwall (in some anti-DA2 rant). 
Kirkwall is at the teeny tip. 

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deuce985 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Oh my, what is this strange code you just quoted? Is this some kind of message I should know about?


What?


I just see a massive wall of text in the post with the map you just posted lol.

It looks like some kind of coded sequence or something.

Fixed! It was a second map I put up showing how big Seheron was in relation to the rest of Thedas. But anyone who googles "map of Thedas" can find it.

Thanks for letting me know! Wonder why it never showed up on my screen?

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brushyourteeth wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Oh my, what is this strange code you just quoted? Is this some kind of message I should know about?


What?


I just see a massive wall of text in the post with the map you just posted lol.

It looks like some kind of coded sequence or something.

Fixed! It was a second map I put up showing how big Seheron was in relation to the rest of Thedas. But anyone who googles "map of Thedas" can find it.

Thanks for letting me know! Wonder why it never showed up on my screen?


Might be a browser difference.

Or maybe you were just trying to speak in algorithm's for me to decipher!

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deuce985 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Oh my, what is this strange code you just quoted? Is this some kind of message I should know about?


What?


I just see a massive wall of text in the post with the map you just posted lol.

It looks like some kind of coded sequence or something.

Fixed! It was a second map I put up showing how big Seheron was in relation to the rest of Thedas. But anyone who googles "map of Thedas" can find it.

Thanks for letting me know! Wonder why it never showed up on my screen?


Might be a browser difference.

Or maybe you were just trying to speak in algorithm's for me to decipher!

.... Posted Image

Ah well, at least all my awesome-looking pictures on the front page worked out. Narrowing it down to just a few was tough business.

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deuce985 wrote...



Might be a browser difference.

Or maybe you were just trying to speak in algorithm's for me to decipher!


Ya'll are much too funny. 

Is it ever mentioned why The Tevinters...want Seheron? 
Isn't interesting that the Qunari would deign have accords with every other nation but not with the Seheron natives. 

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Chiming in a bit late, brush, but love your idea. There was fan art shared by BW on FB recently of some companion... Can't remember who... rendered much like the warrior pics you posted. She looked awesome! If I can run across it again, I'll share.

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 Here we go... Antivan Apostate Serena
"Džejkob Vichr created this gorgeous piece of fan art. "Serena" represents his vision of an Antivan apostate."

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Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

deuce985 wrote...



Might be a browser difference.

Or maybe you were just trying to speak in algorithm's for me to decipher!


Ya'll are much too funny. 

Is it ever mentioned why The Tevinters...want Seheron? 
Isn't interesting that the Qunari would deign have accords with every other nation but not with the Seheron natives. 


Seheron was part of the Tevinter Empire before the Qunari conquered it,so I quess they want it back(again...they apparently reconquered it when the Qunari were pushed back to Par Vollen,only to have the Qunari take it back in few years.Popular island).

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brushyourteeth wrote...

Here we go.  Posted Image



THEY MUST BE THE FEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :blink:

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brushyourteeth wrote...

* snip *

the point of this topic isn't "Bioware are racists!" it's "If we travel north, diversity is appropriate" and also "African tribal warriors make the warrior inside my heart sit up and pay closer attention"


Great pictures in the OP, BTW :o.

No idea whether the ‘ Fog warriors’ go anywhere, to me they feel like some of those cool-sounding Codex entries that may never get realized, or even retconned out of existence. I think it’s totally unpredictable what BioWare would do if they ever get to Seheron and the ‘Fog warriors’. So far, they have been only consistent in the inconsistency of the use of the consistency argument (yeah, I know. I got a headache just thinking about it myself).

However, should they use it…*
If you look at the map of Thedas (images.wikia.com/dragonage/es/images/f/f2/Thedasmap_wallpaper_1920x1200.jpg ) and zoom in, you’ll notice that Anderfels and Tevinter are pretty far north, overlapping in latitude much of Rivain and the southern part of Seheron as well.
(that’s why I think, should BioWare use the consistency argument, the Anderfels people ought to look (mostly) southern European / Mediterranean, not very different from the Rivainis. Of course, if they combine this with a Herr Flick accent…And Anders looked Northern European, so there’s potentially some major…inconsistency and/or mental disconnect there.)

In fact, Seheron appears to be pretty close to Minrathous and its peninsula**.
If you buy into the ‘Minrathous is Rome’ analogy, that would make Seheron possibly analogous to Sardinia, Sicily, Tunisia, Greece, Cyprus or Turkey. If BioWare actually uses the consistency-with-the analogy argument, they might go for something like the Greek klephts who fought the Ottoman Turks or, in another direction, the Kabyle of Algeria, who resisted the French conquerors.

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(That moustache looks lethal)

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Lalla Fadhma, Kabyle resistance leader

I am posting these not as an alternative to the (sub-Saharan-) African suggestion, but as a warning that if and when BioWare uses the consistency-and-analogy argument, they can easily go for options similar to these. And frankly, provided they create terrific Kabylo-klepht-whatever ‘Fog warriors’, there’s no problem with that. Even if they don’t, it would be stretching it a bit that Seheron, almost next door to Minrathous itself, wouldn’t be at least culturally heavily influenced by Tevinter, or even an integral part of it. That there are local people who are fed up being ‘caught between the lines’ is believable, but it doesn’t necessarily mean they are noticeably different from the Tevinter people in terms of looks or culture.

Frankly, if BioWare goes with the OP’s suggestion, they might do this because they think it’s cool, or important to depict an African-inspired culture or, at least as likely, because of rational commercial considerations (‘ 12% of the population of the USA identifies as African-American, the USA is our biggest market, so…’). Certainly not because of any consistency-and-analogy argument.
Having said that, it would definitely be a relief to finally have a non-European inspired human culture. I myself am partial to the northeast African peoples and the Dayaks. :innocent:

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An enemy’s skull is, indeed, a thing of beauty…The La Tene Celts would feel right at home :P

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And tattoos too. I think those are stylized squid?



*That is, assuming Thedas’ world is a planet that, apart from magic, pretty much operates like we would expect, and isn’t a flat disc spinning on the back of a giant space platypus swimming in the mystical ocean of Unbeing while chasing giant space hamsters.
Which actually would be kind of cool…
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** Note: Seheron is supposed to be - at least partly - jungle if I recall correctly. However, if Thedas and its world are comparable to Europe and our own, then it's way too far south for that jungle to be 'tropical jungle', as in the case of Borneo and parts of Africa and central and southern America.
But there also exist 'temperate' rainforests, including in Europe and its vicinity. The temperate rainforests of, for example, northern Iran may be an example of what to expect
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And, while the locals grow rice, there used to be tigers in them woods. Now extinct, alas:crying:.

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The OP makes sense, it's lore that the more north you go in Thedas, the warmer the clime and the duskier people get. Maybe Seheron could be a fantasized version of the Swahili coast or old Axum? Sten remembers Seheron mostly for its scents of tea, spices, and salt water.
Just imagine, stone towns and their tall minarets rising out of the jungle's mists. Its streets are filled with people garbed in swinging vibrant robes and plumage passing by stalls that are exploding in exotic items not seen anywhere else, while merchant fleets moor on coral harbors bringing in cargo drawn from places never seen on a Thedosian map.
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I think your idea is full of win, brushyourteeth.

I also found some interesting images of Aborigines.

If/when we ever travel there, it could be pretty cool to unlock specs for spear and boomerang use.  New weapons ahoy!  Some Kossiths in DA2 used spears, but it's never been a spec for the player.

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I think your idea is full of win, brushyourteeth.

I also found some interesting images of Aborigines.

If/when we ever travel there, it could be pretty cool to unlock specs for spear and boomerang use.  New weapons ahoy!  Some Kossiths in DA2 used spears, but it's never been a spec for the player.


Agreed Pasquale.

Spears most deffinitally should be part of the weapons of choice in a medievel setting.
Like the idea of the boomerang in other therefor suited regions Posted Image.

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It would be great to see these Warriors or even where they reside in DA3. One thing about Dragon Age is their lore is so rich. Yet, we haven't really seen a bunch of variety in the game. Why not make it more culturally diverse? Have they mentioned anything about what their accents might sound like? I don't recall ever hearing anything to that nature.

I think Javik's VO from ME3 would fit their personality perfectly. Ike Amadi. Probably the best character in ME3 and a great VA.

Also, it seems the portrayal of many black people is badly done in games. Often times they're viewed by very narrow-minded stereotypes in gaming. I guess it's viewed as something not mainstream? Even Jacob in ME2 was loaded with typical stereotypes(although he wasn't a bad character). It's like devs shy away from this in their games on purpose.

Sample of Ike's voice in ME3: www.youtube.com/watch

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Wow, nice thread! Eye candies everywhere!

I'm under the impression that people here feel a bit 'color deprived' in the Thedas we know (and I'm not speaking of skin color.)

Thank you BYT!:)

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Wow, thanks for all the kind words and support, guys!

I really like a lot of these ideas and photos. So much to draw inspiration from!!!  Posted Image

I think I'd like to say, in case any devs do catch this message, that I'm not in any way trying to demand that the Fog Warriors play an integral part in DA in the future, or that they should be designed like this just for the sake of including a darker-skinned people. I'm just trying to say that if the story ever takes us there, be it in game, novel, or comic, I think this kind of general design would
A.) Blow people away, and
B.) Fit contextually within the lore already established about Seheron's geography and climate.

It's very easy for me, based on Fenris' description of the Fog Warriors, to imagine someone like this walking out of the jungle to greet you, playing with his children, AND actually being an impressive enough warrior to kick both the magisters and the Qunari off his land.

http://t2.gstatic.co...gpfBFjMGZa4Hng  http://t1.gstatic.co...1Uh6vOUVn2zopwA

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And deuce985, I wanted to punch Javik in the mouth so many times, but I love the idea of using his VA!! Posted Image
And spears, FTW - if they could manage them. I'd rather they have an awesome design and significantly independant culture first, but then heck yes, I'm all for spears!

Seriously, Bioware, please consider it. After all, how could you deny this little face?  Posted Image

http://t2.gstatic.co...M0FpDHFMVvVYvYQ

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Das Tentakel wrote...
[...]
If you look at the map of Thedas (images.wikia.com/dragonage/es/images/f/f2/Thedasmap_wallpaper_1920x1200.jpg ) and zoom in, you’ll notice that Anderfels and Tevinter are pretty far north, overlapping in latitude much of Rivain and the southern part of Seheron as well.
(that’s why I think, should BioWare use the consistency argument, the Anderfels people ought to look (mostly) southern European / Mediterranean, not very different from the Rivainis. Of course, if they combine this with a Herr Flick accent…And Anders looked Northern European, so there’s potentially some major…inconsistency and/or mental disconnect there.)

In fact, Seheron appears to be pretty close to Minrathous and its peninsula**.
If you buy into the ‘Minrathous is Rome’ analogy, that would make Seheron possibly analogous to Sardinia, Sicily, Tunisia, Greece, Cyprus or Turkey. If BioWare actually uses the consistency-with-the analogy argument, they might go for something like the Greek klephts who fought the Ottoman Turks or, in another direction, the Kabyle of Algeria, who resisted the French conquerors.

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Kabyle warriors

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Lalla Fadhma, Kabyle resistance leader

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Being myself a Kabyle (Kabyle by my mother, birthplace and native language, Lebanese Arab by my father, and French by naturalization, to be more precise) I couldn't resist the temptation to give you more headaches (after the 'consistency in inconsistency with consistency argument'... LOL!)

There is a slight irony in the supposed contradiction between 'people living along climate based on latitude' consistency argument and the statement that 'German' Anderfel people live under a latitude of mediterranean climate.
Especially if you suggest that people living under those climates could look like Berbers / Kabyles...
Ever wondered why some Kabyles have clear eyes, like the former soccer champion Zinedine Zidane (and sometimes blond hair)?
It's because a small part of our very distant ancestors were actually Germans... LOL!
As much for those who find migrations reasons to place people far-fetched in fictional settings, there was a Germanic Vandal kingdom in North-Africa predating the Middle-Age.;)

Thus, you could imagine that if Anders wore the traditional garments of the Anderfels people, he would look like the upper picture above.:lol:
In the context of relationships with a Roman / Tevinter empire it could be useful to remind that the 'Numids'  (actually the Berbers / Kabyles antic ancestors) were pivotal during the early history of Rome (because they formed a skilled light cavalry), before they were integrated into the Empire...

However I would prefer to see the fog warriors looking like Eastern Africa's warriors (like the Danakils.)
They remind me of Cush, the fearsome warrior companion of Corto Maltese, Hugo Pratt's comic books beautiful hero.:wub:

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 Here we go... Antivan Apostate Serena
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That is absolutely gorgeous.

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^ I agree! I think it took a lot of heat for not looking "Antivan" enough if I'm remembering right, but regardless I think I would definitely love to meet someone who looked like that in a Dragon Age game. :D

I also love her bellybutton peep hole. LOL!

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brushyourteeth wrote...

Seriously, Bioware, please consider it. After all, how could you deny this little face?  Posted Image

http://t2.gstatic.co...M0FpDHFMVvVYvYQ


Well played, well played.:lol:

Dintonta wrote...

Being myself a Kabyle (Kabyle by my mother, birthplace and native language, Lebanese Arab by my father, and French by naturalization, to be more precise) I couldn't resist the temptation to give you more headaches (after the 'consistency in inconsistency with consistency argument'... LOL!)

There is a slight irony in the supposed contradiction between 'people living along climate based on latitude' consistency argument and the statement that 'German' Anderfel people live under a latitude of mediterranean climate.
Especially if you suggest that people living under those climates could look like Berbers / Kabyles...
Ever wondered why some Kabyles have clear eyes, like the former soccer champion Zinedine Zidane (and sometimes blond hair)?
It's because a small part of our very distant ancestors were actually Germans... LOL!
As much for those who find migrations reasons to place people far-fetched in fictional settings, there was a Germanic Vandal kingdom in North-Africa predating the Middle-Age.;)

In the context of relationships with a Roman / Tevinter empire it could be useful to remind that the 'Numids'  (actually the Berbers / Kabyles antic ancestors) were pivotal during the early history of Rome (because they formed a skilled light cavalry), before they were integrated into the Empire...

However I would prefer to see the fog warriors looking like Eastern Africa's warriors (like the Danakils.)
They remind me of Cush, the fearsome warrior companion of Corto Maltese, Hugo Pratt's comic books beautiful hero.:wub:


Oh, I knew that, or to be more precise, I knew they sometimes ascribe the existence of the ‘blond Berbers’ to Vandal influence. And there’s doubtless, after so many centuries, a bit of Vandal in every Kabyle (and Tunisian), as well as Alan, Phoenician, Italo-Roman etc. Just as there is a bit of Sarmatian, Thracian, Syrian, Jewish and a whole lot of Gallo-Roman and whatever else in the Dutch.

The blond hair and blue eyes could be of a much older origin, though. It occurs further west as well, in Morocco and among the Guanches of the Canary Islands (before they were absorbed by Spanish colonists). Lots of overlapping archaeological cultures between North Africa and Europe, Tariq wasn’t the first North African to cross the Strait of Gibraltar, and the Romans and Greeks weren’t the first ‘Europeans’ in North Africa. Recently read something about the presence of the Chalcolithic ‘Bell Beaker’ culture (or archaeological ‘phenomenon’) in North Africa, those guys sure moved around a lot, from Morocco to Britain and Germany, well over 4,000 years ago.
Globalization-ish phenomena aren't exactly entirely new www.youtube.com/watch :D.

And there’s evidence that at least some Stone Age Europeans moved ‘back’ into North Africa during the last Ice Age.
Even for blondies there is such a thing as too much ice.;)

And yeah, the Numidians. I had a vision of a Numidian and a Batavian auxiliary drinking a beer in Roman Eburacum (modern York) and complaining about the weather, the lazy, ne’er do well little Britons (‘Brittunculi’) and, of course, the lousy beer and terrible food. After which the Batavian mentions that, y’know, he has this unmarried but nubile daughter and the Numidian’s unmarried and obviously a good soldier with prospect of Roman citizenship and, well, how about it?

As they analyse DNA, historical records and inscriptions, people in the historical sciences are more and more realizing how much movement there was in the past, sometimes a steady trickle, occasionally a real flood. But moving, meeting, adapting and mingling is what people do.

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Das Tentakel wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Seriously, Bioware, please consider it. After all, how could you deny this little face?  Posted Image

http://t2.gstatic.co...M0FpDHFMVvVYvYQ


Well played, well played.:lol:

Dintonta wrote...

Being myself a Kabyle (Kabyle by my mother, birthplace and native language, Lebanese Arab by my father, and French by naturalization, to be more precise) I couldn't resist the temptation to give you more headaches (after the 'consistency in inconsistency with consistency argument'... LOL!)

There is a slight irony in the supposed contradiction between 'people living along climate based on latitude' consistency argument and the statement that 'German' Anderfel people live under a latitude of mediterranean climate.
Especially if you suggest that people living under those climates could look like Berbers / Kabyles...
Ever wondered why some Kabyles have clear eyes, like the former soccer champion Zinedine Zidane (and sometimes blond hair)?
It's because a small part of our very distant ancestors were actually Germans... LOL!
As much for those who find migrations reasons to place people far-fetched in fictional settings, there was a Germanic Vandal kingdom in North-Africa predating the Middle-Age.;)

In the context of relationships with a Roman / Tevinter empire it could be useful to remind that the 'Numids'  (actually the Berbers / Kabyles antic ancestors) were pivotal during the early history of Rome (because they formed a skilled light cavalry), before they were integrated into the Empire...

However I would prefer to see the fog warriors looking like Eastern Africa's warriors (like the Danakils.)
They remind me of Cush, the fearsome warrior companion of Corto Maltese, Hugo Pratt's comic books beautiful hero.:wub:


Oh, I knew that, or to be more precise, I knew they sometimes ascribe the existence of the ‘blond Berbers’ to Vandal influence. And there’s doubtless, after so many centuries, a bit of Vandal in every Kabyle (and Tunisian), as well as Alan, Phoenician, Italo-Roman etc. Just as there is a bit of Sarmatian, Thracian, Syrian, Jewish and a whole lot of Gallo-Roman and whatever else in the Dutch.

The blond hair and blue eyes could be of a much older origin, though. It occurs further west as well, in Morocco and among the Guanches of the Canary Islands (before they were absorbed by Spanish colonists). Lots of overlapping archaeological cultures between North Africa and Europe, Tariq wasn’t the first North African to cross the Strait of Gibraltar, and the Romans and Greeks weren’t the first ‘Europeans’ in North Africa. Recently read something about the presence of the Chalcolithic ‘Bell Beaker’ culture (or archaeological ‘phenomenon’) in North Africa, those guys sure moved around a lot, from Morocco to Britain and Germany, well over 4,000 years ago. And there’s evidence that at least some Stone Age Europeans moved ‘back’ into North Africa during the last Ice Age.
Even for blondies there is such a thing as too much ice.;)

And yeah, the Numidians. I had a vision of a Numidian and a Batavian auxiliary drinking a beer in Roman Eburacum (modern York) and complaining about the weather, the lazy, ne’er do well little Britons (‘Brittunculi’) and, of course, the lousy beer and terrible food. After which the Batavian mentions that, y’know, he has this unmarried but nubile daughter and the Numidian’s unmarried and obviously a good soldier with prospect of Roman citizenship and, well, how about it?

As they analyse DNA, historical records and inscriptions, people in the historical sciences are more and more realizing how much movement there was in the past, sometimes a steady trickle, occasionally a real flood. But moving, meeting, adapting and mingling is what people do.


Hahaha! ROFL! You put it off my chest!;):lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Thank you very much!:happy:
In a previous thread, I mentioned "mediterranean hubs" of ethnical mixity, making the mistake to be not more precise... After a while, I realized that some posters had only thought to Al-Andalus, the moorish Spain (an exemple I don't like, not because of it : It left a too wonderful legacy in culture to be disliked by itself, but because it's an exemple which actually hides all the rest, and thus looks like a single exception in history to many people), while I was simply mostly thinking to the much well known Roman Empire, its nifty road network (a bit like the Tevinter's, BTW) and its 'Mare Nostrum' implying a stretch on three continents...

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

I think how Bethesda and BioWare portray black people in their games is shameful. Everyone knows they have a different facial structure than whites. Instead of creating a different render, they just take the current render and darken it. I wouldn't say it's racist, but I would say it's really lazy.

Example
Example 2
Example 3

See what I'm sayin'?

Thedas is a fantasy world. Why would the darker-skinned people have a different bone structure? Why would they evolve precisely the same way that humans on Earth have?

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Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...
Interesting! I'd honestly never considered that the Fog Warriors could be kossith!  Can anyone confirm that they are/were?

Seems to me like that would probably make them either Tal Vashoth or the descendants of Tal Vashoth, which could mean that the Qunari would have hunted them all down and killed them by now (or tried very hard to). But I don't know anything about that for sure.


Fenris...sort of mentioned it while he was explaining how he escaped Danarius. I just ASSUMED that Fog Warriors were Tal-Vashoth (and then the only Tal-Vashoth we've seen have been Kossith) since... Qunari presence is heavy where he lived. 
Okay ignore me. I've been trying to remember in detail but...I can't.

I never thought about it one way or the other, but now that you mention it, it does make a lot of sense.

Back to the human types though... don't forget that on the other side of the world we have the Amazonian, South and Central American native types, which can also be a model for equatorial climate people.


Either way, Brushy wins for using a pic of Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje. He's a fave of mine. I originally saw him in the HBO series Oz. ^_^


Dintonta wrote...

Wow, nice thread! Eye candies everywhere!

I'm under the impression that people here feel a bit 'color deprived' in the Thedas we know (and I'm not speaking of skin color.)

Thank you BYT!:)

I recently had a discussion about why movies/tv that take place in the past (this particular discussion was brought on by a show in the late 1800s New York) look dingy/dirty/grey. For the most part in the cities you are dealing with the industrial revolution revving up and and you have a lot of soot from the factories. In the more seedy areas people are living in their own filth, etc. If you were to go into the parlor of a high society person you will see a lot of color because things are clean and they have the money to afford expensive silks and such. In westerns the main issue will be the dust etc from living in that area.

I think we will start seeing more color if we go to Orlais, especially if we are able to be amongst the nobility. I'll say one thing, the designers have quite the task in presenting Orlesian nobility dress so it matches David Gaider's descriptions and our expectations.

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Well I don't actually think the anderfels people need to be dark skinned at all. Don't they live on a giant cold plateau or on the steppes or something. If climate = skin colour then surely in the cold rainy anderfels people might look like Germans.