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[Fiery Phoenix]

I'll tell you something: even if this was true, Chris would still deny it simply because he isn't allowed to say anything about it. It's a lose-lose situation, in other words. Calling it a rumor for the time being is your best bet, regardless of what BioWare says, as they will never confirm it either way (not until it's time, anyway).

[Applepie_Svk]

yukon fire wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Wouldn't be the first time a Lie-o-Ware rep lied to us.

EC: Won´t change old ending or add new ending - that´s it guys ! Pre-EC release quote officialy used on ME3 page

POST EC: LOL NAO DOLAN - WE MADE REDCON AND AD NEU ENDING
Fanbase: SAY WAT ?

[yukon fire]

So the lying liars who lied claim someone else is lying, well that makes as much sense as a clam bake in Kansas.

[Bill Casey]

I'm firmly in the camp that there won't be more post ending DLC...
And yes, Shepard is fighting indoctrination, and the ending we have is beyond brilliant...

[liggy002]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I'll tell you something: even if this was true, Chris would still deny it simply because he isn't allowed to say anything about it. It's a lose-lose situation, in other words. Calling it a rumor for the time being is your best bet, regardless of what BioWare says, as they will never confirm it either way (not until it's time, anyway).

If it is true then why not just stay silent about it, why come out and lie?

[liggy002]

Bill Casey wrote...

I'm firmly in the camp that there won't be more post ending DLC...
And yes, Shepard is fighting indoctrination, and the ending we have is beyond brilliant...

I disagree, the ending is garbage.  It would be brilliant with IT DLC but to believe in IT you now have to head canon your own ending.

[Bill Casey]

Nope...
I don't know what happens when Shepard wakes up and I don't care...

[Fiery Phoenix]

liggy002 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I'll tell you something: even if this was true, Chris would still deny it simply because he isn't allowed to say anything about it. It's a lose-lose situation, in other words. Calling it a rumor for the time being is your best bet, regardless of what BioWare says, as they will never confirm it either way (not until it's time, anyway).

If it is true then why not just stay silent about it, why come out and lie?

Because then people would keep nagging them night and day about it. Better to strike while the iron is hot.

Especially if we're talking something that's at least a good six months away down the road.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 25 août 2012 - 06:19 .

[Hrothdane]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I'll tell you something: even if this was true, Chris would still deny it simply because he isn't allowed to say anything about it. It's a lose-lose situation, in other words. Calling it a rumor for the time being is your best bet, regardless of what BioWare says, as they will never confirm it either way (not until it's time, anyway).

If it is true then why not just stay silent about it, why come out and lie?

Because then people would keep nagging them night and day about it. Better to strike while the iron is hot.

Especially if we're talking something that's at least a good six months away down the road.

I like this guy. He gets it.

BioWare should have already learned a lesson about letting player expectations get too high.

[liggy002]

I'll tell you this. If they pulled this stunt, it would catch a lot of people off guard and it would make video game history. They would get so much publicity from this it wouldn't even be funny. If I were Bioware, I'd do it. It would be the Kansas City Shuffle. They all look to the left while you go to the right. Believe me, in the back of my mind I still think that this could be their grand plan. But we will see the truth of this when next year rolls around.

[ld1449]

The thing is, if it had any credence of even the posibility of being true, why deny it? Why not just let the thing run its course? They've left the puzzle theory roll around without a word, the IT theory thread, they've let everything roll around unchecked for months and yet this one thing that someone claimed to have from an "inside source" and they immediately rip it out like a bad weed.

What do they gain by outright denying it? Nothing, They actually loose whatever scraps of the disillusioned franchise they have left clinging to that last bit of hope. What do they risk by letting it run? Nothing.A rumor is nothing more than a rumor.

So yeah, I see no reason if the posibility even existed to outright stamp it out right off the bat.

Modifié par ld1449, 25 août 2012 - 06:34 .

[Cassandra Saturn]

ld1449 wrote...

The thing is, if it had any credence of even the posibility of being true, why deny it? Why not just let the thing run its course? They've left the puzzle theory roll around without a word, the IT theory thread, they've let everything roll around unchecked for months and yet this one thing that someone claimed to have from an "inside source" and they immediately rip it out like a bad weed.

What do they gain by outright denying it? Nothing, They actually loose whatever scraps of the disillusioned franchise they have left clinging to that last bit of hope. What do they risk by letting it run? Nothing.A rumor is nothing more than a rumor.

So yeah, I see no reason if the posibility even existed to outright stamp it out right off the bat.

that's actually very true, no simple IT Thread should be left unchecked.. lol

[Fiery Phoenix]

liggy002 wrote...

I'll tell you this. If they pulled this stunt, it would catch a lot of people off guard and it would make video game history. They would get so much publicity from this it wouldn't even be funny. If I were Bioware, I'd do it. It would be the Kansas City Shuffle. They all look to the left while you go to the right. Believe me, in the back of my mind I still think that this could be their grand plan. But we will see the truth of this when next year rolls around.

Of course.

Note that I'm not saying it's not going to happen or they aren't going to let us know about it eventually or anything. It's just that it's still too soon for such a huge, sensitive revelation. So, "lying" to us is pretty much their safest option at this early point. And as has been mentioned already, it wouldn't be the first time this has happened. It's standard PR protocol for a lot of companies these days.

[liggy002]

Yeah, but the longer they keep denying it and making people believe it wont happen, the more of a shock it will be when people discover it is true. If it were to be true. The EC was released and they tell us that it's final, next to no one save a small percentage believe that they could still come up with an IT DLC but what if they did? Wouldn't that be amazing and shocking?

Modifié par liggy002, 25 août 2012 - 06:38 .

[yukon fire]

ld1449 wrote...

The thing is, if it had any credence of even the posibility of being true, why deny it? Why not just let the thing run its course? They've left the puzzle theory roll around without a word, the IT theory thread, they've let everything roll around unchecked for months and yet this one thing that someone claimed to have from an "inside source" and they immediately rip it out like a bad weed.

What do they gain by outright denying it? Nothing, They actually loose whatever scraps of the disillusioned franchise they have left clinging to that last bit of hope. What do they risk by letting it run? Nothing.A rumor is nothing more than a rumor.

So yeah, I see no reason if the posibility even existed to outright stamp it out right off the bat.

To be fair when it comes to these Bioware people, the gates are down, the lights are flashing but there ain't a train for miles.   

Modifié par yukon fire, 25 août 2012 - 07:01 .

[liggy002]

And I have yet to receive a proper explanation as to why Chris would even bother asking if we believed in the IT at the hold the line forums. Why would he do that? To gather market data? But why? The whole thing seems pretty pointless to me and quite frankly doesn't make any sense if they aren't planning anything. You gather preliminary market data because you want to make sure that you will see a proper return when you expose yourself to risk on an investment.

Some had said that he gathered the data so that Bioware would know what their projected losses might be if they didn't go with the IT but that makes less sense to me than gathering data to ensure that an investment is likely to make money.   Why gather data to project your losses and do nothing to address a disillusoned segment of your fanbase, when you can exploit the needs of your fanbase to see a profit?

Modifié par liggy002, 25 août 2012 - 06:49 .

[Cassandra Saturn]

yukon fire wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

The thing is, if it had any credence of even the posibility of being true, why deny it? Why not just let the thing run its course? They've left the puzzle theory roll around without a word, the IT theory thread, they've let everything roll around unchecked for months and yet this one thing that someone claimed to have from an "inside source" and they immediately rip it out like a bad weed.

What do they gain by outright denying it? Nothing, They actually loose whatever scraps of the disillusioned franchise they have left clinging to that last bit of hope. What do they risk by letting it run? Nothing.A rumor is nothing more than a rumor.

So yeah, I see no reason if the posibility even existed to outright stamp it out right off the bat.

To be fair when it comes to these Bioware people, the gates are down, the light are flashing but there ain't a train for miles.   

 no Trains!? wow. just wow.

[Cassandra Saturn]

liggy002 wrote...

And I have yet to receive a proper explanation as to why Chris would even bother asking if we believed in the IT at the hold the line forums. Why would he do that? To gather market data? But why? The whole thing seems pretty pointless to me and quite frankly doesn't make any sense if they aren't planning anything. You gather preliminary market data because you want to make sure that you will see a proper return when you expose yourself to risk on an investment.

Some had said that he gathered the data so that Bioware would know what their projected losses might be if they didn't go with the IT but that makes less sense to me than gathering data to ensure that an investment is likely to make money.   Why gather data to project your losses and do nothing to address a disillusoned segment of your fanbase, when you can exploit the needs of your fanbase to see a profit?

well.. Greed always has place here in Humanity's life since beginning of Human Race.. and possbily so other species

[Volc19]

I personally think "Project X" is as much of a crock as that "Truth" DLC. However, Bioware is known to lie to keep details unknown. Like there not being multiplayer, 16 endings, and choices like the Rachni mattering. All were bold lies told as if they were absolute fact, so Bioware statements are pretty useless on the matter.

If you want to deny Project X, just state that there isn't a shred of proof other than word of mouth that it even exists. It's a better argument overall.

[Jadebaby]

N7L4D wrote...

Let's just change this to a femshep creation code thread, anybody got good ones?

I support this.

[Cassandra Saturn]

Volc19 wrote...

I personally think "Project X" is as much of a crock as that "Truth" DLC. However, Bioware is known to lie to keep details unknown. Like there not being multiplayer, 16 endings, and choices like the Rachni mattering. All were bold lies told as if they were absolute fact, so Bioware statements are pretty useless on the matter.

If you want to deny Project X, just state that there isn't a shred of proof other than word of mouth that it even exists. It's a better argument overall.

he has point

[Jadebaby]

Hrothdane wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I'll tell you something: even if this was true, Chris would still deny it simply because he isn't allowed to say anything about it. It's a lose-lose situation, in other words. Calling it a rumor for the time being is your best bet, regardless of what BioWare says, as they will never confirm it either way (not until it's time, anyway).

If it is true then why not just stay silent about it, why come out and lie?

Because then people would keep nagging them night and day about it. Better to strike while the iron is hot.

Especially if we're talking something that's at least a good six months away down the road.

I like this guy. He gets it.

BioWare should have already learned a lesson about letting player expectations get too high.

Okay good.

/thread

It's over wrote...

End of discussion.

Now about those femshep face codes, let's get it crakin.

[BrookerT]

Volc19 wrote...

I personally think "Project X" is as much of a crock as that "Truth" DLC. However, Bioware is known to lie to keep details unknown. Like there not being multiplayer, 16 endings, and choices like the Rachni mattering. All were bold lies told as if they were absolute fact, so Bioware statements are pretty useless on the matter.

If you want to deny Project X, just state that there isn't a shred of proof other than word of mouth that it even exists. It's a better argument overall.

Sorry to be pedantic, but 16 endings was never said by Bioware, it was a fan conspiracy

[yukon fire]

liggy002 wrote...

And I have yet to receive a proper explanation as to why Chris would even bother asking if we believed in the IT at the hold the line forums. Why would he do that? To gather market data? But why? The whole thing seems pretty pointless to me and quite frankly doesn't make any sense if they aren't planning anything. You gather preliminary market data because you want to make sure that you will see a proper return when you expose yourself to risk on an investment.

Some had said that he gathered the data so that Bioware would know what their projected losses might be if they didn't go with the IT but that makes less sense to me than gathering data to ensure that an investment is likely to make money.   Why gather data to project your losses and do nothing to address a disillusoned segment of your fanbase, when you can exploit the needs of your fanbase to see a profit?

He's sort of like an Inverse- Einstein:

The moment we move outside of the limits of a logic, we’re in Inverse-Einstein territory, where the rules of that logic may not work any more. (A simple example: flicking the light-switch on and off won’t make any difference if the power’s out!) And the catch is that when the rules don’t apply, we can’t use the rules themselves to make sense of the context: in fact we’re likely to make sense of the context by identifying that the rules don’t make sense any more.

 

Modifié par yukon fire, 25 août 2012 - 07:17 .