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[Jadebaby]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...

Shall I report you now for calling this user a "nutjob"?

You know, like you do every time someone loses their nerve at your frivolous trolling.

I don't know. If this CleverNoob dude is a user on here, I guess you have to right to do that. 

I stand by my post. 

yes he is...

Then feel free to report me. I don't think I've done anything wrong. 

Calling some random user a nutjob doesn't seem any worse to me, than calling Casey Hudson and the rest of Bioware bunch of hacks, because you dislike an ending to a game. 

Go ahead.

Calling someone a hack because of an ending to a game, is critisizing them on a professional level.

Calling someone a nutjob for their certain beliefs is a personal attack.

I think this report holds merit.

[robertthebard]

Darth Death wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...

Ok, I'll get back on topic but first: An honest question.

Why do you so vehemently defend this game and it's developers? If you had a fun time with it, why dwell on these forums pissing people off all the time?

And as for Bioware, do you feel you owe them something? You don't, no one does. They got compensated justly for their work, they're rich. Or perhaps you really do owe them something? Hmmm....

A lot of people feel cheated, disappointed and whatnot. And they can't let it go. So then you come here and antagonize them. You're constantly telling people what to think yourself. Why don't you just... I don't know... Lay off of it?

... alright then. One last post in here then (sorry OP).

I defend the game because I like it very much, and because I find it silly how some people are saying that it's a bad game. That's simply not true. 

Maybe you should be more honest to yourself & admit you don't care for well written stories, but still enjoy them anyways. I could see that. It's your opinion that you regard ME3 story to be good, but there are somethings (from a literary standpoint governing rules to good story-telling) that isn't opinionated, especially if people have already pointed out the obvious flaws several times now.  

Here's another innovative thought:  How about you quit telling people what they should or should not find entertaining.  I know, it's a novel concept, isn't it?  You know, showing others the same respect that you demand they show you.  Of course, it's a pipe dream, since people feel the need to throw people that disagree with them under a bus.  Again, it's common BSN logic "I hate the endings, so I hate the game, and you should too.  If you don't, you're just too stupid to breathe".  Frankly, it's old, and I think, despite the fact that I don't like how the ending plays out, but enjoyed the game anyway, that you don't have the knowledge to tell me why I shouldn't like it.  At the end of the day, I found it quite fun to play, fun enough that I force myself to play through the vastly inferior mechanics of ME 1 to get exactly the story I want to get when I allow myself to die at Harbinger's laser, the point where I truly believe the credits should roll. 

[BrookerT]

Darth Death wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...

Ok, I'll get back on topic but first: An honest question.

Why do you so vehemently defend this game and it's developers? If you had a fun time with it, why dwell on these forums pissing people off all the time?

And as for Bioware, do you feel you owe them something? You don't, no one does. They got compensated justly for their work, they're rich. Or perhaps you really do owe them something? Hmmm....

A lot of people feel cheated, disappointed and whatnot. And they can't let it go. So then you come here and antagonize them. You're constantly telling people what to think yourself. Why don't you just... I don't know... Lay off of it?

... alright then. One last post in here then (sorry OP).

I defend the game because I like it very much, and because I find it silly how some people are saying that it's a bad game. That's simply not true. 

Maybe you should be more honest to yourself & admit you don't care for well written stories, but still enjoy them anyways. I could see that. It's your opinion that you regard ME3 story to be good, but there are somethings (from a literary standpoint governing rules to good story-telling) that isn't opinionated, especially if people have already pointed out the obvious flaws several times now.  

Both Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 have massive problems from a literary standpoint, very obvious flaws wich people casually forget. Mass Effect 3 is a well written story, just like one and two and all of them have narrative problems, but they all make up for it with character writing among other things.

[BrookerT]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...

Shall I report you now for calling this user a "nutjob"?

You know, like you do every time someone loses their nerve at your frivolous trolling.

I don't know. If this CleverNoob dude is a user on here, I guess you have to right to do that. 

I stand by my post. 

yes he is...

Then feel free to report me. I don't think I've done anything wrong. 

Calling some random user a nutjob doesn't seem any worse to me, than calling Casey Hudson and the rest of Bioware bunch of hacks, because you dislike an ending to a game. 

Go ahead.

Calling someone a hack because of an ending to a game, is critisizing them on a professional level.

Calling someone a nutjob for their certain beliefs is a personal attack.

I think this report holds merit.

No calling CASEY or MAC a hack is still a an attack on a personal level. Saying some of the Bioware staff are hacks is an attack on a professional level, the instant you bring a person in it, it becomes a personal attack

Modifié par BrookerT, 25 août 2012 - 02:56 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

StElmo wrote...

I don;t see it that way, I don't see why others would.

If someone gives me a false rumour, then they are no longer trusted. Simple.

Except he can claim he was also given a flase rumour, and his source is to blame not him. Some people are already latching on to this idea and spreading it as fact, they'd fall under the same untrustworthy category under your statement, but I doubt you'd blame them.

[Darth Death]

robertthebard wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...

Ok, I'll get back on topic but first: An honest question.

Why do you so vehemently defend this game and it's developers? If you had a fun time with it, why dwell on these forums pissing people off all the time?

And as for Bioware, do you feel you owe them something? You don't, no one does. They got compensated justly for their work, they're rich. Or perhaps you really do owe them something? Hmmm....

A lot of people feel cheated, disappointed and whatnot. And they can't let it go. So then you come here and antagonize them. You're constantly telling people what to think yourself. Why don't you just... I don't know... Lay off of it?

... alright then. One last post in here then (sorry OP).

I defend the game because I like it very much, and because I find it silly how some people are saying that it's a bad game. That's simply not true. 

Maybe you should be more honest to yourself & admit you don't care for well written stories, but still enjoy them anyways. I could see that. It's your opinion that you regard ME3 story to be good, but there are somethings (from a literary standpoint governing rules to good story-telling) that isn't opinionated, especially if people have already pointed out the obvious flaws several times now.  

Here's another innovative thought:  How about you quit telling people what they should or should not find entertaining.  

Here's another, another innovative thought: Don't put words in my mouth. I've never stated this & you misinterpreted my comment. I don't care if people were entertained by ME3, if anything good for them, but don't act as if their isn't any issues with the game at all. That's my stance. You enjoyed the game? Good, but don't even try to convince others retcons, plot-holes, or dem are nonexistent.   

[robertthebard]

Jade8aby88 wrote...


Calling someone a hack because of an ending to a game, is critisizing them on a professional level.

Calling someone a nutjob for their certain beliefs is a personal attack.

I think this report holds merit.

No, it's a personal attack.  However, since you claim otherwise, if I said you were a hack because of your ending theory, and believing that personal attacks are professional, would you feel the need to report me too?  The funny thing is, the person that's threatening to report is every bit as guilty of inflammatory comments and trolling as the person he's going to report.  Did he report himself as well, or have the audacity to at least report the posts where they are going back and forth trolling eachother?

Even better, since you feel the report holds merit, did you report the other guy too?  No?  Is it because the other guy believes the same things about the game as you, and so you take everything he says to be criticism on a proffesional level?  Isn't more likely that you think it's a way to silence a nay sayer, even if briefly?  Frankly, you can spout all the exposition you want from here, but I'm firmly in the camp of you believing it will silence a nay sayer to your theories, and is thus valid.

[BrookerT]

Darth Death wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...

Ok, I'll get back on topic but first: An honest question.

Why do you so vehemently defend this game and it's developers? If you had a fun time with it, why dwell on these forums pissing people off all the time?

And as for Bioware, do you feel you owe them something? You don't, no one does. They got compensated justly for their work, they're rich. Or perhaps you really do owe them something? Hmmm....

A lot of people feel cheated, disappointed and whatnot. And they can't let it go. So then you come here and antagonize them. You're constantly telling people what to think yourself. Why don't you just... I don't know... Lay off of it?

... alright then. One last post in here then (sorry OP).

I defend the game because I like it very much, and because I find it silly how some people are saying that it's a bad game. That's simply not true. 

Maybe you should be more honest to yourself & admit you don't care for well written stories, but still enjoy them anyways. I could see that. It's your opinion that you regard ME3 story to be good, but there are somethings (from a literary standpoint governing rules to good story-telling) that isn't opinionated, especially if people have already pointed out the obvious flaws several times now.  

Here's another innovative thought:  How about you quit telling people what they should or should not find entertaining.  

Here's another, another innovative thought: Don't put words in my mouth. I've never stated this & you misinterpreted my comment. I don't care if people were entertained by ME3, if anything good for them, but don't act as if their isn't any issues with the game at all. That's my stance. You enjoyed the game? Good, but don't even try to convince others retcons, plot-holes, or dem are nonexistent.   

I agree, theres no point in bothering ot convince people. All of the retcons, plotholes and DEM in Mass Effect 1 and 2 have been forgotten, now Mass Effect 3 is in the firing line. Just like when all of Mass Effect 1 problems were forgotten when Mass Effect 2 came out

[D24O]

Taboo-XX wrote...

wat

u ****in srs Dolan

[ShepnTali]

I don't necessarily buy what either party is shoveling, but I'm confused. If clevernoob in the first place says this is rumor and not necessarily true, how can clevernoob say Chris is lying?

[MegaSovereign]

D24O wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

wat

u ****in srs Dolan

[robertthebard]

Darth Death wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...

Ok, I'll get back on topic but first: An honest question.

Why do you so vehemently defend this game and it's developers? If you had a fun time with it, why dwell on these forums pissing people off all the time?

And as for Bioware, do you feel you owe them something? You don't, no one does. They got compensated justly for their work, they're rich. Or perhaps you really do owe them something? Hmmm....

A lot of people feel cheated, disappointed and whatnot. And they can't let it go. So then you come here and antagonize them. You're constantly telling people what to think yourself. Why don't you just... I don't know... Lay off of it?

... alright then. One last post in here then (sorry OP).

I defend the game because I like it very much, and because I find it silly how some people are saying that it's a bad game. That's simply not true. 

Maybe you should be more honest to yourself & admit you don't care for well written stories, but still enjoy them anyways. I could see that. It's your opinion that you regard ME3 story to be good, but there are somethings (from a literary standpoint governing rules to good story-telling) that isn't opinionated, especially if people have already pointed out the obvious flaws several times now.  

Here's another innovative thought:  How about you quit telling people what they should or should not find entertaining.  

Here's another, another innovative thought: Don't put words in my mouth. I've never stated this & you misinterpreted my comment. I don't care if people were entertained by ME3, if anything good for them, but don't act as if their isn't any issues with the game at all. That's my stance. You enjoyed the game? Good, but don't even try to convince others retcons, plot-holes, or dem are nonexistent.   

So you didn't say anything in the post that I quoted?  It was misquoted?  Falsely attributed to you?  Did I edit the post to make it say things it didn't say?  Is this what you're claiming?

So you didn't say this:  Maybe you should be more honest to yourself & admit you don't care for well written stories

I copied that straight out of your post.  You are telling the poster what they like, or don't like.  I don't expect that you'll be able to grasp that concept, but it's what you're doing.

I suppose you didn't say this either:  It's your opinion that you regard ME3 story to be good, but there are somethings (from a literary standpoint governing rules to good story-telling) that isn't opinionated, especially if people have already pointed out the obvious flaws several times now

What's that?  You did say that?  You have the audacity to tell somebody why they shouldn't like something, and then the audacity to tell me I'm putting words in your mouth?  Novel Concept #2:  Think before you post.

[Darth Death]

BrookerT wrote...

I agree, theres no point in bothering ot convince people. All of the retcons, plotholes and DEM in Mass Effect 1 and 2 have been forgotten, now Mass Effect 3 is in the firing line. Just like when all of Mass Effect 1 problems were forgotten when Mass Effect 2 came out

The Mass Effect series was never perfect & I agree with you on that. I can acknowledge ME1 & 2 flaws and still have a decent experience, but nowhere will I deny its issues simply because I like the game.   

Modifié par Darth Death, 25 août 2012 - 03:14 .

[MegaSovereign]

I didn't know a community manager's job is to lie.

CleverNoob must be a lot smarter than all of us.

[BrookerT]

Darth Death wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

I agree, theres no point in bothering ot convince people. All of the retcons, plotholes and DEM in Mass Effect 1 and 2 have been forgotten, now Mass Effect 3 is in the firing line. Just like when all of Mass Effect 1 problems were forgotten when Mass Effect 2 came out

The Mass Effect series was never perfect & I agree with you on that. I can acknowledge ME1 & 2 flaws and still have a decent experience, but nowhere will I deny its issues simply because I like the game.   

So do you like Mass Effect 3? just curious

Modifié par BrookerT, 25 août 2012 - 03:17 .

[Rifneno]

Hehe. All these months and I still can't look at a synthesis sig and not laugh.

[MegaSovereign]

Rifneno wrote...

Hehe. All these months and I still can't look at a synthesis sig and not laugh.

Same could be said about your avatar.

[jijeebo]

An ITer saying Bioware is lying?

Well my my, I am simply shocked beyond words.

[BrookerT]

Rifneno wrote...

Hehe. All these months and I still can't look at a synthesis sig and not laugh.

Its nice to make people laugh:D

[Rifneno]

jijeebo wrote...

An ITer saying Bioware is lying?

Well my my, I am simply shocked beyond words.

I know, right?  What fools.  AFK, I'm gonna go play my ME3 that answers all my questions and has the rachni play a huge part in the final battle and has incredible variety in its endings that can't be categorized as A, B, and C, and is shaped by all my choices throughout the series.

[Darth Death]

robertthebard wrote...
So you didn't say anything in the post that I quoted?  It was misquoted?  Falsely attributed to you?  Did I edit the post to make it say things it didn't say?  Is this what you're claiming?

So you didn't say this:  Maybe you should be more honest to yourself & admit you don't care for well written stories

I copied that straight out of your post.  You are telling the poster what they like, or don't like.  I don't expect that you'll be able to grasp that concept, but it's what you're doing.

No, I'm not. I'm saying he shouldn't be unaware to ME3's issues, but completely free to enjoy the game. In other-words: He's free to like ME3's story, but to be more honest with its flaws. It's like saying this: "ME3 isn't a perfect game & it has many problem, but I still like it." I don't mind that kind of statement, as along as people don't deny the issues/flaws.  

[Darth Death]

BrookerT wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

I agree, theres no point in bothering ot convince people. All of the retcons, plotholes and DEM in Mass Effect 1 and 2 have been forgotten, now Mass Effect 3 is in the firing line. Just like when all of Mass Effect 1 problems were forgotten when Mass Effect 2 came out

The Mass Effect series was never perfect & I agree with you on that. I can acknowledge ME1 & 2 flaws and still have a decent experience, but nowhere will I deny its issues simply because I like the game.   

So do you like Mass Effect 3? just curious

What traps are you laying out for me if I respond?

[Fingertrip]

IT fanatics are hilarious, they're like a bunch of extremist religious groups.

[BrookerT]

Darth Death wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

I agree, theres no point in bothering ot convince people. All of the retcons, plotholes and DEM in Mass Effect 1 and 2 have been forgotten, now Mass Effect 3 is in the firing line. Just like when all of Mass Effect 1 problems were forgotten when Mass Effect 2 came out

The Mass Effect series was never perfect & I agree with you on that. I can acknowledge ME1 & 2 flaws and still have a decent experience, but nowhere will I deny its issues simply because I like the game.   

So do you like Mass Effect 3? just curious

What traps are you laying out for me if I respond?

None really, Im just being friendly . . .that sounded creepy. Because I wondered whether you like Mass Effect 3 and look past the flaws, like with Mass Effect 1 and 2.

[ZackG312]

Oh no someone has a different opinion then me, quick burn him.

BSN is so low sometimes