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[Carabassa]

I haven't bought any dlc yet (but I have the black emporium), but I was considering the posibility of buying some, and I would like that you tell me what are in your opinion the best dlcs, because there are a lot... xd
Thanks

[Dragon_Effect 15511]

For Dragon Age:Origins or Dragon Age II? Or Both?

Modifié par Dragon_Effect 15511, 25 août 2012 - 11:59 .

[obZen DF]

Legacy. For me, at least. Mark of the Assassin is good too.

[Arthur Cousland]

I'd start with Legacy. After that, try Exiled Prince, then Mark of the Assassin.

[cindercatz]

Get Exiled Prince for the extra party member first. I honestly don't know what the game's like without it, got the CE. After that, I really like Mark of The Assassin, especially if you played Origins, and Legacy is good.

[JasonPogo]

I really liked Dawnguard.


Now for a real answer I would say get the exiled prince and the one about the gray wardens?  I forget what it is called.  Mark of the Assasins just pissed me off.  Very bad writing in that IMHO.

Modifié par JasonPogo, 25 août 2012 - 05:57 .

[Huntress]

Legacy is very good. Mark of the Assassin is good, in a way you learn alot more about the qunari people! I found it very interesting and tallis was a very good character.

So in all, I like them both.

[coles4971]

Depends what you're looking for, OP. If, for example you just want the opportunity to play with a new party member, play Mark of the Assassin, if you're interested in the lore of the Grey Wardens then Legacy would be your best bet.

[Foolsfolly]

Carabassa wrote...

I haven't bought any dlc yet (but I have the black emporium), but I was considering the posibility of buying some, and I would like that you tell me what are in your opinion the best dlcs, because there are a lot... xd
Thanks

Dragon Age: Origins:

• Awakening.
• Warden's Peak.
• Stone Prisoner.
• Return to Ostagar.
• Leliana's Song.
• Golems of Amgarrak.
• Witch Hunt.
• Darkspawn Chronicles.
• Feast Day stuff.

That's THE order too.

Dragon Age 2:

• Legacy.
• Exiled Prince.
• Mark of the Assassin.

Avoid all others as they're just weapons and armors that aren't worth much. Unless you really just want everything the game can possibly have.

[babymoon]

I loved Awakening and Witch Hunt for DA:O. I didn't have to pay for them though because they came with my Ultimate Edition copy.

I still have not played Legacy for DA2 yet, in fact I just bought it, but I've heard it's good.

[riccaborto]

IMHO

ME2: Shadow Broker

DAO: Awakenig, Witch Hunt, Leliana's Song

DA2: Legacy, Mark of the Assassin. Also Sebastian Vale (Exiled Prince) is a cool character but you don't get so much in terms of quests or contents.

[cindercatz]

Yeah, if you were also asking about Origins dlc, I'd say get Awakening for certain, then Witch Hunt, then Leliana's Song, because they're the most centric to the story.

Beyond that, Warden's Peak is an excellent quest in a new environment with a storage chest, a new sword and armor, and new Warden special abilities, Stone Prisoner gives you really a main game party member, like Exiled Prince in DA2, and that character's integrated story, very good, and Return to Ostagar is pretty good after that. All three take place during the main timeline you played through in Origins, but you are allowed to go back and complete them afterwards (though I'd recommend playing them integrated into your playthrough, rather than stand alone).

Golems of Amgarrak is a nice little stand alone dungeon crawl with a small party and a few bonus items, but I definitely would save it for after the rest I listed, if you haven't already got them. Darkspawn Chronicles is a quick alternate reality version of the Battle of Denerim, from which I personally got more out of the alternate codex entries than anything else.

The Feast Day items add new little actions available to their chosen recipients, like one playing the lute, one praying, etc., and provides a few chuckles. Good fun for the price.

edit: It bugs me still that Stone Prisoner and Exiled Prince weren't included on disc just for this reason, people playing vanilla off the disc, but they both definitely make your games better, so if you don't have them, get them.

Modifié par cindercatz, 25 août 2012 - 10:26 .

[sylvanaerie]

Legacy was best for DA2. Lots of lore for the Grey Wardens, Chantry, darkspawn and Hawke's family. Exiled prince adds another NPC and 3 new quests (one per act--though I think the first is doable in act 2 if you add it too late) to the story. Mark of the Assassin has a lot of Qunari lore, delves a wee bit into Orlais politics and offers a temporary companion who can get on your nerves after too many playthroughs.
I got all the DLCs, (stuff packs included) mostly because I wanted a very 'complete' game, and it comes with some really nice pieces not just for Hawke but his/her companions as well. Started with the CE so I had several things from the beginning.

DAO, I really enjoyed Awakenings, Warden's Peak and Stone Prisoner. Leliana's Song was good for background mostly, and an enjoyable hour or so play. Witch hunt is okay if you are a Morrigan Fanboi (I didn't find it particularly interesting, but if you like Morrigan you might).  Of the DLCs not inclusive in the main game, those have the most connection to the Warden and the storyline.  The rest of DAO's DLC was garbage, IMO.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 26 août 2012 - 08:40 .

[Foolsfolly]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Legacy was best for DA2. Lots of lore for the Grey Wardens, Chantry, darkspawn and Hawke's family. Exiled prince adds another NPC and 3 new quests (one per act--though I think the first is doable in act 2 if you add it too late) to the story. Mark of the Assassin has a lot of Qunari lore, delves a wee bit into Orlais politics and offers a temporary companion who can get on your nerves after too many playthroughs.
I got all the DLCs, (stuff packs included) mostly because I wanted a very 'complete' game. Started with the CE so I had several things from the beginning.

DAO, I really enjoyed Awakenings, Warden's Peak and Stone Prisoner. Leliana's Song was good for background mostly, and an enjoyable hour or so play. Witch hunt is okay if you are a Morrigan Fanboi (I didn't find it particularly interesting, but if you like Morrigan you might).  Of the DLCs not inclusive in the main game, those have the most connection to the Warden and the storyline.  The rest of DAO's DLC was garbage, IMO.

As a fan of Morrigan I can say I didn't like Witch Hunt at all. It's boring and terrible DLC that leads up to a 5 minute conversation that was vague and ends roughly the same except for the one where you leave with Morrigan which only leaves problems for the envitable conclusion of the story. With a different engine and no doubt lost information on how you built your character you can only assume the Warden will be dead by the time we see Morrigan again. Or else she'll talk about how she has to return to Mirror World to see if her baby daddy can get the TiVo to work properly.

He can't by the way. She's shown him countless times but he can't grasp it.

And Leliana's Song also sucks. But I guess you got to see Divine Justina the numbered before she was the Divine. So that means... nothing.

[sylvanaerie]

Foolsfolly wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Legacy was best for DA2. Lots of lore for the Grey Wardens, Chantry, darkspawn and Hawke's family. Exiled prince adds another NPC and 3 new quests (one per act--though I think the first is doable in act 2 if you add it too late) to the story. Mark of the Assassin has a lot of Qunari lore, delves a wee bit into Orlais politics and offers a temporary companion who can get on your nerves after too many playthroughs.
I got all the DLCs, (stuff packs included) mostly because I wanted a very 'complete' game. Started with the CE so I had several things from the beginning.

DAO, I really enjoyed Awakenings, Warden's Peak and Stone Prisoner. Leliana's Song was good for background mostly, and an enjoyable hour or so play. Witch hunt is okay if you are a Morrigan Fanboi (I didn't find it particularly interesting, but if you like Morrigan you might).  Of the DLCs not inclusive in the main game, those have the most connection to the Warden and the storyline.  The rest of DAO's DLC was garbage, IMO.

As a fan of Morrigan I can say I didn't like Witch Hunt at all. It's boring and terrible DLC that leads up to a 5 minute conversation that was vague and ends roughly the same except for the one where you leave with Morrigan which only leaves problems for the envitable conclusion of the story. With a different engine and no doubt lost information on how you built your character you can only assume the Warden will be dead by the time we see Morrigan again. Or else she'll talk about how she has to return to Mirror World to see if her baby daddy can get the TiVo to work properly.

He can't by the way. She's shown him countless times but he can't grasp it.

And Leliana's Song also sucks. But I guess you got to see Divine Justina the numbered before she was the Divine. So that means... nothing.

That was the Divine Justinia Leliana talks to?  Man I've totally got to replay that now!  I wasn't even thinking of that! 

Seriously, aside from Awakenings, Stone Prisoner and Warden's Peak, I found none of the other DLC's had any replayability/use at all.  I only played through Leliana's song twice (and the second time mostly because I figured out how to get my Leliana mod onto the younger Leliana so she looked like the one in my game--and since that was a preamble to my King Cousland playthrough who romanced her), Witch Hunt once.   Return to Ostagar (which plays as a bad retcon fanfic with wild OOCness from the companions), and the nightmare that was the Golems DLC made me want to toss my PC out the window.

The gift pack DLC was a joke, (though fun to use to get approval to rockbottom to get convos I've never seen before) and I didn't waste the 5 bucks on Darkspawn Chronicles because...well yea.

In all I found the DA2 DLC a huge improvement.

[Foolsfolly]

That was the Divine Justinia Leliana talks to? Man I've totally got to replay that now! I wasn't even thinking of that!

Yep it's one of those things that ever comes up to your knowledge when you stumble across it in the Dragon Age wiki that a codex entry in the DLC only side mission for Sebastien happens to mention that another character that only appeared in a DLC for like 4 minutes is now Divine Justina the roman numeraled.

didn't waste the 5 bucks on Darkspawn Chronicles because...well yea

I got it free off of a disc my sister bought. HAHA! It was ****ing terrible. I feel like that should come with a twenty dollar gift certificate for Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3, and Dragon Age 2 DLC. Because if you beat that damn thing you should be rewarded with better games.

[Fredvdp]

I personally didn't get MotA because it used a character from a webseries that I didn't like. Between Legacy and The Exiled Prince, I'd go for Exiled Prince, because it fits better in the structure of the game. Legacy is alright as well.

[Foolsfolly]

Fredvdp wrote...

I personally didn't get MotA because it used a character from a webseries that I didn't like. Between Legacy and The Exiled Prince, I'd go for Exiled Prince, because it fits better in the structure of the game. Legacy is alright as well.

Mark of the Assassin has one thing going for it.

Big fights. Big big fights. There's this one bit if you refuse Tallis's offer where you're down a player and outrunning every damn knight in the castle. And the glorious thing is you run into goblins. So while you're fighting the goblins all the sudden from behind comes a goddamn army of bastards and now you're sandwiched between two completely different forces fighting for your life.

It was the funnest damn thing in the entire DLC and it's likely you didn't experience it if you just prepared to take on the army and waited at a decent choke point for them to hit.

Otherwise Tallis isn't bad, but there's no choice in the thing. The level design is good but the story is so small that a third of its runtime is spent hunting, the next third on puzzles and a stealth mini-game, and the final third just bashing funny sounding people about the head.

There was a good idea in the DLC. Crash a fancy Orliasian party, infiltrate their security, and steal a priceless artifact. But the game goes out of its way to subvert that fun little additional story by making it about something bigger than it really is. But when it expands into the realm of national security problems tinted with socio-political undertones they also strike down any player agency.

Agree with Tallis. She gets her way.
Disagree with Tallis? Too horse-****ting bad because she gets her way in the exact same fashion.

Legacy ends very similarly too regardless of choice but at least there was variations of that ending. And you handwave everything ending the same by saying Hawke's a collosal dunderhead and didn't notice a Freaky Friday plot unfolding before their eyes.

Here when they even taunt you by giving you the option to refuse her only for Tallis to be so much more awesome and escape. What's that BioWare? I can kill a High Dragon and at least two ultimate timeless near immortal evils but a tiny elven girl who is nearly useless in a fight is too much for me?

[coles4971]

It's called gameplay/story segregation, and Bioware games have spades and spades of it .

[Foolsfolly]

coles4971 wrote...

It's called gameplay/story segregation, and Bioware games have spades and spades of it .

I know what it is. I just want to be an annoying perhaps slighly amusing **** for a morning.

[sylvanaerie]

Mark of the Assassin (with all its flaws--and annoying party member inflicted on Hawke) was still better than RtO and GoA....IMO of course. Everyone has varying tastes and their opinions reflect it.

If for no other reasons than the ****-eating grin my snarky rogue Hawke wore during one confrontation with a rather spoiled nobleman, and a cameo from one of my favorite Origins NPCs. 

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 26 août 2012 - 11:43 .

[Foolsfolly]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Mark of the Assassin (with all its flaws--and annoying party member inflicted on Hawke) was still better than RtO and GoA....IMO of course. Everyone has varying tastes and their opinions reflect it.

If for no other reasons than the ****-eating grin my snarky rogue Hawke wore during one confrontation with a rather spoiled nobleman, and a cameo from one of my favorite Origins NPCs. 

Oh no doubt. Mark of the Assassin's the weakest of the three story based DLC for DA2. But that being said it's better than every story DLC for Origins other than Awakening, Shale, and Warden's Peak.