Meredith doesn't care about them. However the rest of the general populace does; the general populace aren't Templars, Meredith holds no sway over them. If the Arishok forced the nobles to tell the people not to resist for their own benefit, they would do so
The general populace does not participate to the war, they are just scared. Only the templars and the mages are fighting. The general populace does not have anything to say until it is done. They just want the end of all that crap.
And the mages in act 2 give the appearance of loyalty. The mages did not become blood mages between acts 2 and 3, the majority of them were already. They just had no reason to use it.
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No. The majority of the mages of the circle are not blood mages, I don't know where you get this idea. Even during the act 3 the majority of the mages are just mages scared. They will turn into abominations because they are desesperate in Act 3, the templars trying to kill them all, but it has nothing to do with the practice of blood magic.
Do you understand the meaning of the term apostate? An apostate is someone who is free of the circle. The only apostates in Kirkwall are yourself, Merril and Anders. The blood mages who are still part of the circle aren't apostates, they are maleficarum. I was referring to circle mages, no one is talking about apostates, so I don't have a clue what you're on about here.
I don't think you understand what I meant.. It's simple. You said the mages would rather kill the templars during the qunari threat... And it is absolutely wrong if you are talking about the circle.... Only the apostates, those we have seen fighting the templars, could do that. The relationships between the templars and the circle weren't that bad during the act 2. So I don't know where you get the idea that the mages of the circle would rather kill the templars in their back while the qunari are generally seen as worse than them.
You contradict yourself in your first line here. By being so physically massive, the Arishok has a significant advantage over other soldiers. So why do you then go on to say that he "doesn't have anything more special than the average soldier"?
Since when being a giant means he has something more special than the average soldier except he is taller ? Don't know where you see your contradiction. He could be easily killed by three or four average soldiers, that's it. That's just what I'm saying according to your poor logic.
Meredith on the other hand, is simply a Templar without the lyrium sword. We aren't told that she is a master duelist like Isabella, or that she is particularly competent in combat at all. The only evidence of her martial abilties that we have is her stabbing a Sarabaas in the back, so saying that she could have killed the Arishok rather than Hawke, based on such scant evidence, is ridculous.
Where did you see I said she could kill the Arishok in dual ? O_________O
She's a knight commander, she's a templar, obviously, you don't need to be told she has martial abilities. That's just dumb. The same for the Arishok. You don't need to be told he has martial abitilities if he became the Arishok. You didn't see either any cutscene about the Arishok killing anyone.
The Arishok isn't invincible, he can't defeat alone an army, if his army is defeated, he's done. Meredith is experienced with a war won, and hunting mages during all her life. She has totally the ability to lead Kikwall to the victory.
I just don't understand your logic that fails miserably here.
Finally, yes she has her army of Templars. But are the Templars truly an army? Based on what we see in the Gallows and the Circle in Ferelden, there would be of the order of a hundred Templars per circle. That certainly doesn't constitute an army in my book. The Templars are an effective force against mages; against normal troops they are just men.
The circle contains thousands mages according to the lore. I don't think at all only a few hundred templars are enough to monitor them, your number seems absolutely wrong. And that just doesn't make sense like I said earlier : Let's try to think. The authorities aren't that crazy, they wouldn't have invited the Qunari if these guys had a number greater than or equal to their troops. It does not make sense at all. You do not invite a military force into your city more powerful than yours. They wanted precisely to be able to handle and monitor the Qunari, in an area of the city. It can only mean they were stronger since they were particularly aware that the Qunari were very dangerous. ( Kirkwall certainly didn't forget what the Qunari did to them in the past ) They invited the Qunari because it was a small group compared to them.
As I said, the Templars aren't an army. They're a police force for the mages. The chain of command refers to who is in charge; in this case, the guard and other soldiers in Kirkwall who couldn't give a flying **** about what Meredith says and will look to the Viscount. But the Viscount is dead and the nobles who would replace him are captured. So the chain of command for these troops is broken. Ask again if you need further clarification.
Yes they are an army in Kirkwall, despite their role is like a police force for the mages. That doesn't change what they are in reality and that's why they are so powerful in Kirkwall and they defeated the former viscount. Kirkwall's guard has to defend Kirkwall, its first role. And the only leader outside is Meredith, not the viscount who is dead and the nobles locked who don't have any authority over them. The guards used to follow Meredith's orders since the beginning while The Viscount didn't say anything to deny that. So I don't really understand your logic. Kirkwall's guard worked with the Templars before and totally could again without any doubts.
Well I doubt the Qunari planned on having a picnic and spending the rest of their days sitting comfortably in Hightown. I assumed you would be capable of seeing that their plan was to search Kirkwall for their book. Which they obviously need time for. It's not that difficult to understand. I am perfectly aware of what I am talking about too, thanks for asking.
As I said above, the thousands of people you refer to will look to their leaders - the Viscount, or in his place the nobles, for guidance. If the nobles tell the people to stay at home for their own safety, which the Qunari could quite easily coerce them into doing, then the vast majority will do so. This is the reason that the Qunari attacked the Viscount's Hall first.
Again irrelevant. Without Hawk, The qunari would never find the book, so they wouldn't leave Kirkwall don't you think ? So what would they do with their time lost ? Nothing. Kirkwall has neighbors with whom it has alliances, a few days from its position
And the Arishok still can't communicate with their country, they don't have any ship, anything that could rely them to Par vollen, they lost everything during their storm. It's been several years they didn't have any contact. So the fact remains that your theory about " they can control the city " doesn't hold a lot of water.
If the nobles tell the people to stay at home for their own safety, which the Qunari could quite easily coerce them into doing, then the vast majority will do so. This is the reason that the Qunari attacked the Viscount's Hall first.
lol, no. Without Hawk, with Petrice the chantry wouldn't let the Qunari doing whatever the hell they want into the city, and Meredith wouldn't agree at all. There would be also fanatics, etc. The nobles have absolutely no influence during this attack. They are just hostages. And I would say the general populace wouldn't obey to their claim, only to the chantry actually. They don't give a **** about the nobles.
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