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[Meltemph]

WarGriffin wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

/shrug

Scifi it seems, is harder to get right(at least beyond niche specially in videogames) more so then fantasy. Seems most of the top writers/directors at least story wise are less inconsistent.

Also with fantasy, you dont have to worry about a writer constantly going from high fantasy to low fantasy. Where as with scifi you always have to hope that the writers dont treat the setting like it is skitzo not knowing what kind of scifi it is(however this normally happens).

Star Craft 2 is still at full price

What is your point?

[revo76]

Good and most-wanted games sell at the same price. Modern Warfare, Skyrim Starcraft are the best examples in their kind such as FPS, RPG or RTS. Withcer 2 also sells at the same price.

The games which cant appeal fans or consumers lose their price, regardless the quality or anything else.

ME3's sales are dropping ? So what ? It was a medicore game anyway, that's normal.

[Conniving_Eagle]

shepdog77 wrote...

Killdren88 wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

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^ "75 perfect scores."

There you go.

This is the greatest thing I have ever seen in my sad pathetic life....

If that's the greatest thing you've ever seen then yeah, you do have a sad pathetic life.

What about the two maical golden arches of McDonald's?

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 26 août 2012 - 04:56 .

[Xamufam]

where i live it took 1-2 weeks to drop 50% of the price after release

[clarkusdarkus]

To be fair i remember the first 2 mass effect games going cheap within months aswell so it's nothing new for ME3.

ME3 was mediocre anyway so alot of people i know got rid of it halfway through there playthrough but have kept there skyrim copies.

[davidshooter]

Love or hate Skyrim it blew ME3 out of the water in the only catagory EA ultimately cares about - sales. And it did it in a genre EA thought was dead by doing just about everything EA thinks doesn't work in today's marketplace.

No day 1 DLC
A proper dvelopment cycle
No microtransactions
No multiplayer
No online pass for used games
A fully supported modding community
No broken character creator
No stupid franchise killing "artsy ending"
No attempt to copy someone else's franchise to appeal to their fans - and fail at doing so - while alienating your own existing fan base.

Skyrim is the antithesis to EA's entire development model and flies in the face of Bioware's recent interview defending day 1 DLC and other suicidal business practices.  As I said in a previous post, it's curious that Skyrim is actually closer to ME1 in every comparable way than ME3.

I for one am glad Skyrim handed ME3 its *** on a platter in the sales department.  I only wish something was actually learned in all this.

Modifié par davidshooter, 26 août 2012 - 04:43 .

[Ghost]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

While Skyrim is still at or near full price? Skyrim even sold four times as many copies as ME3. Can someone explain?

Skyrim hit the casual crowd just like COD which is the reason both are priced at full. Also, ME2 was down to 19.99 about 3 months after release while I still see ME3 going for 59.99 to 39.99.

[MegaSovereign]

Skyrim is incredibly overrated...

[Ghost]

corkey sweet wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

Meh, Skyrim blows. Give me FO:NV over it anyday of the week.

FO:NV was more unplayable than even the ps3 version of Skyrim. it stunk

NO. FO:NV was better than Skyrim technically speaking. Skyrim would constantly drop to 2 frames a second on PS3.

[MegaSovereign]

Ghost1017 wrote...

corkey sweet wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

Meh, Skyrim blows. Give me FO:NV over it anyday of the week.

FO:NV was more unplayable than even the ps3 version of Skyrim. it stunk

NO. FO:NV was better than Skyrim technically speaking. Skyrim would constantly drop to 2 frames a second on PS3.

At least they patched that issue on PS3.

[Ghost]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

corkey sweet wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

Meh, Skyrim blows. Give me FO:NV over it anyday of the week.

FO:NV was more unplayable than even the ps3 version of Skyrim. it stunk

NO. FO:NV was better than Skyrim technically speaking. Skyrim would constantly drop to 2 frames a second on PS3.

At least they patched that issue on PS3.

Its not completely fixed it still occurs.

[Cainne Chapel]

Yeah both ME1 and ME2 dropped in price pretty rapidly after release too, so thats nothing new.

heck if I recall by June 2010 ME2 was like 30 bucks.

But also dont forget Elder scrolls has ALWAYS sold more than ANY of the ME games. It appeals to the open world sand box crowd more and it is by all outside views a bigger "property" than ME.

Dont get me wrong I love BW games and VERY RARELY play Bethesda games, but they ARE popular, they're essentially the CoDs of the WRPG world

[ShepnTali]

Skyrim plays fine on PS3 after patches, like Mega said. Other than the water/freezing issue, which is also resolved, I had no real issues with Skyrim. Technical dorks might, but the problems are way overblown as it stands today.

[Dany164]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Bethesda have no artistic or inegrity? LOL! It's pretty sad, actually.

[Cainne Chapel]

davidshooter wrote...

Love or hate Skyrim it blew ME3 out of the water in the only catagory EA ultimately cares about - sales. And it did it in a genre EA thought was dead by doing just about everything EA thinks doesn't work in today's marketplace.

No day 1 DLC  -so? Nothing wrong with Day 1 DLC
A proper dvelopment cycle - So 2 years isn't a proper development cycle anymore? but its ok for 2 but not 3?
No microtransactions - which are optional... you can play MP and get points byp laying...
No multiplayer - whats wrong with multiplayer? how would that effect someones decisiont o by the game?
No online pass for used games - passes or not, who cares? If you're buying used the dev/pub aint getting money anyway
A fully supported modding community  - Theya lso own their game engine BW does not
No broken character creator - a bug to be sure, but lets not sit here and say Bethesda games dont have bug issues...cuz thats a lie
No stupid franchise killing "artsy ending"  -didnt kill it for me, but nice try
No attempt to copy someone else's franchise to appeal to their fans - and fail at doing so - while alienating your own existing fan base.- once again you dont speak for all fans of the series

Skyrim is the antithesis to EA's entire development model and flies in the face of Bioware's recent interview defending day 1 DLC and other suicidal business practices.  As I said in a previous post, it's curious that Skyrim is actually closer to ME1 in every comparable way than ME3.

I for one am glad Skyrim handed ME3 its *** on a platter in the sales department.  I only wish something was actually learned in all this.

Just an aside, Elder scrolls games always sell very well, its a well known and long running franchise, are you also aware that ME3 also sold just as well, if not more so, than ME1 and ME2.

So would yous ay you're glad skyrim (and the other elder scrolls games) beat out those 2 games as well? Cuz it is true.

But besides that,t hey are two completely different types of RPGs that appeal to different segments.  You dont also compare Madden releases to NHL releases do ya?

[SNascimento]

ME3 would never sell as much as Skyrim, you just need to see ME2 and ME1 sales to figure that out. 
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And if you compare ME3 with the other two, it sold as much as them both combined. So, as much as you dislike ME3 and want it to fail or anything, talking about sales is not the way to go.

Modifié par SNascimento, 26 août 2012 - 05:01 .

[ShepnTali]

Reviewers were giving 10's to Skyrim before completing the game, and it was loaded with bugs. It's great overall, yet overrated just the same.

[wafflez]

Well Skyrim was at least pretty decent unlike a certain artsy game.

[Atakuma]

SNascimento wrote...

ME3 would never sell as much as Skyrim, you just need to see ME2 and ME1 sales to figure that out. 
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And if you compare ME3 with the other two, it sold as much as them both combined. So, as much as you dislike ME3 and want it to fail or anything, talking about sales is not the way to go.

Actually ME3 sold slightly less than ME2, although the Wii-U sales may change that.

[zambot]

I would think the price drop has more to do with the new DLC timing and getting more people to play MP (microtransactions!) than overall sales numbers.

It was no accident that Skyrim went on sale just before Dawnguard.

[Cainne Chapel]

SNascimento wrote...

ME3 would never sell as much as Skyrim, you just need to see ME2 and ME1 sales to figure that out. 
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And if you compare ME3 with the other two, it sold as much as them both combined. So, as much as you dislike ME3 and want it to fail or anything, talking about sales is not the way to go.

Well you know SN... people have to find SOME convoluted way to complain and try to back up their arguments by using something else to compare it too.

its not enough for them to just dislike something, no, they have to try to tear it down by comparison... even if the comparisons make no sense or are completely invalid like you had stated.

Only way it could of been worse is if they tried to compare it to a GTA game or something.

[Bfler]

Skyrim on Pc has the Creation Kit. With that you aren't dependent on the developers and they can't rip you off with DLC.

[Cainne Chapel]

wafflez wrote...

Well Skyrim was at least pretty decent unlike a certain artsy game.

Wellw hat about a fan like me that didn't like Skyrim Wafflez? Should I go to their forums and complain that they let me down and didn't make a good enough game for me?

....I DO have a pitch fork I could whip out

[SNascimento]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

ME3 would never sell as much as Skyrim, you just need to see ME2 and ME1 sales to figure that out. 
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And if you compare ME3 with the other two, it sold as much as them both combined. So, as much as you dislike ME3 and want it to fail or anything, talking about sales is not the way to go.

Well you know SN... people have to find SOME convoluted way to complain and try to back up their arguments by using something else to compare it too.

its not enough for them to just dislike something, no, they have to try to tear it down by comparison... even if the comparisons make no sense or are completely invalid like you had stated.

Only way it could of been worse is if they tried to compare it to a GTA game or something.

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Yeah, the cure for that is: avoid BSN. Or at least this particular section of the foruns.

[Selene Moonsong]

Constructive criticism welcome, attempting to bash, however, is not.