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[Feneckus]

I'm in a gold lobby. I'm a level 1 Human Soldier with a Claymore X, Shotgun Amp V, Shotgun Amp III, AP Ammo IV and Power Efficiency Module III. I get kicked. While in the very same lobby there was a Shadow with a Tempest VII and no equipment ... :blink:

[Beerfish]

Who said it was a myth? It's well known that a good player with great equipment can easily get through. In a game lobby no one knows if you are a good player or a dunder head thus it is reasonable for people to kick.

[Computron2000]

Topping gold as a level 1 is nothing special. All you need is
i) Host and start solo
ii) Level 4 cyclonic mod, Level 3 weapon amp, Level 4 AP ammo, Stronghold or grenade cap 5
iii) Harrier/GPS/Claymore (for classes ignoring weight)

By hosting, you will get 2 advantages. First you're immune to many lag problems such as GPS shots not registering. You're also easily dodging projectiles like warp balls. Second, the people who drop into your game are likely to not have equipped mods at all since they might have thought to equip in the lobby. This makes them much less damaging, hence score less (score is proportional to damage done to armor or health) yet they attract the same amount of aggro.

By using the harrier/GPS/claymore, you're safe from being dropped in a small map with a BW or a large map with a piranha. These weapons are good at all ranges. AP ammo 4 allows you to drop the piercing mods for something else, such as a stabilization mod on the harrier

The cyclonic mod changes your squishness to being able to take damage (barring low shield characters). Stronghold only makes this even more pronounced, while people choosing Grenade Cap will be spamming grenades from range anyway.

[DESTRAUDO]

This thread proves that lev 1 is viable on gold (in the hands of a master). In the same way, a bag of chicken fillets can be proved viable as a lethal weapon. (In the hands of chuck norris).

Op for every one of you there are 99 guys who would spend 3/4 of the match in spectator mode. I am pretty sure i would be one of those 99.

[phunkeybuddha]

Feneckus wrote...

I'm in a gold lobby. I'm a level 1 Human Soldier with a Claymore X, Shotgun Amp V, Shotgun Amp III, AP Ammo IV and Power Efficiency Module III. I get kicked. While in the very same lobby there was a Shadow with a Tempest VII and no equipment ... :blink:

Was the shadow lvl20? If specced correctly, you really don't need equipment since you should be cloaked & shadowstriking all over the place anyway. A Tempest VII won't hurt your cooldown too much either (though I would say their are better guns to use). Plus, the infiltrator is quite valuable in device-disabling objectives. As to why you were personally kicked as a lvl1 Soldier, I have no idea.

[Feneckus]

phunkeybuddha wrote...

A Tempest VII won't hurt your cooldown too much either 

But it's really beyond stupid to take an SMG as a Shadow since you can't get any melee bonuses. And when it's not safe to use shadow strike and the enemy is far away from you all you have is .... a Tempest ? With no ammo mods ? Yeah, great idea. Let's kick the Human Soldier with a disguting amount of equipment instead.

MastahDisastah wrote...

Claymore X with shotgun amp and adrenaline rush lv 1 can easy bodyshot kill mooks and headshot kill everything else (not armored, with the exception of pyros).

It can one shot ravagers with AR's damage bonus. Two shots for a brute.

[Feneckus]

MastahDisastah wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

It can one shot ravagers with AR's damage bonus. Two shots for a brute.

I don't think that adrenaline rush at level 1 (only 50% bonus damage) on a lv 1 soldier (so no passive weapon damage) can boost the claymore damage up to 8100, not even with the strongest consumables.

I just did it. Claymore X with AP Ammo IV, Shotgun Amp V and Shotgun Rail Amp III. Level 1 with 1 point in AR and another in frag grenade (for those damn swarmers).

I also tried the same setup with a level 1 GI on plat. 1 point in TC and another in hunter mode. I could one shot ravagers as well.

[Shepard VI]

It used to be a myth. I've been taking my Level 1's to Gold for over 4 months now.

[Jonathan Shepard]

Psh. 3 others and myself did a team of like a Paladins, a Destroyer, and... 2 other classes all at level 1 Gold Giant Reapers.

Easy peasy.

[Uh Cold]

With equipment a level 1 can do work in gold easily and be on top.
It's the level 1's that put nothing on and use bad loadouts that deserve the death sentence.

[Zjarcal]

Caratinoid wrote...
So what have you guys done with your level 1's?

Take them into gold too.

Feneckus wrote...

I'm in a gold lobby. I'm a level 1 Human Soldier with a Claymore X, Shotgun Amp V, Shotgun Amp III, AP Ammo IV and Power Efficiency Module III. I get kicked. While in the very same lobby there was a Shadow with a Tempest VII and no equipment ... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie][smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie][smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]

 

Ok, lolwut?!?

Eh, maybe they were waiting for a friend? 

[Feneckus]

MastahDisastah wrote...

Something is wrong I think...
Base damage of claymore is 1648, you're telling me that with adrenaline rush (50% bonus), shotgun gear (15% bonus), shotgun rail amp (30% bonus) and armor piercing rounds 4 (50% bonus armor damage) and barrel (25% bonus) you managed to boost the damage by almost 500%? Must be the AP rounds IV then, seems the only possibility.

Then I tried with a level 8 Human Soldier. Adrenaline Rush fully evolved (70% damage bonus), 5 or 10% weapon damage in the passive tree, shotgun amp V, shotgun amp III and AP Ammo II. I couldn't one shot ravagers. AP Ammo IVs are insane.

[Caratinoid]

Zjarcal wrote...

Caratinoid wrote...
So what have you guys done with your level 1's?

Take them into gold too.

Ha ha, yeah good job!

I like the fact that you are level 1 and not 20 with no points, that means you've done it on the first try. Were you tired of waiting for the lobby to fill or something?

Modifié par Caratinoid, 26 août 2012 - 04:45 .

[sy7ar]

 Too bad, the myth is never gonna get busted

[Caratinoid]

sy7ar wrote...

 Too bad, the myth is never gonna get busted

Judging from how everyone kept leaving my lobby or were trying to kick me for joining theirs I think you might be right on that one.<_<

I did enjoy the WTF comments from some players after the game though.

Modifié par Caratinoid, 26 août 2012 - 05:31 .

[CapitateGoose]

I simply buy recruit packs to level up to about level 8.
Pretty cheap and pretty quick.

[OmegaRex]

Gorguz wrote...

You are the exception that proves the rule. If you have a low level character DO NOT play on gold ffs. I've seen few players doing that recently, and we have never reached wave 10. They ended up doing >20000 points, and it's frustrating as hell.  That's why I want the extraction to be required to get the credits earned.
I don't know how skilled are you, but if you join a room with a >17 character I will always try to kick you. Better safe than sorry.

Really? People with level 20 characters can suck just as much as someone with a level 1.

Also, extraction for credits earned? Maybe if losing connection to EA servers wasn't such a problem this would be fine.

The day BW implements that feature is the day this game dies.

[Zjarcal]

Caratinoid wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Caratinoid wrote...
So what have you guys done with your level 1's?

Take them into gold too.

Ha ha, yeah good job!

I like the fact that you are level 1 and not 20 with no points, that means you've done it on the first try. Were you tired of waiting for the lobby to fill or something?

Haha yea, I was originally going to do it with a level 20 using a reset card, but there's just something more satisfying about actually seeing "Level 1" on the screen. 

And lol no, I had wanted to do a level 1 solo for a while, I just figured it was convenient with the weekend event requiring promotion

[steverw1975]

Caratinoid wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Was it a myth to begin with?

Considering you start to  see kick votes next to your name, I say it's still a myth for some people.

No offense, but unless I already know you, how do I know you won't be a handiap in a Gold match? While we all know that there are players out there that can do just fine with a level 1 on Gold, I think we are also aware that there are a lot more people who claim they can keep up on Gold with a level 1 character than there are players who can actually do so.

I've mentioned this incident before, but it fits here. Had a high level n7 hosting a U/U/G PUG lobby I joined. We actually ended up with a good collection of players in the lobby. Upon seeing this, the host promoted the character he was using. I figured screw it, we had a good crew. No problem. Other two apparently figured the same thing. End result? Partial extraction. The host who had promoted couldn't even rack up 25 kills or 25 assists, and he hid in a corner somewhere while the rest of us did the objectives. He did the  same thing during extraction, which is why we ended up with only a partial. So, no offense to you or anyone else who can actually do it, but the experiences I've had with low levels in PUGs has soured me towards them a bit, and I very well might vote to boot unless it's someone I know.

[CYB3RFR34K]

thats exactly what i always do

[Shadohz]

Caratinoid wrote...

Common myth: "Level 1 is not viable on gold"

I have promoted all my characters during this weekend and ended up with 6 level 1's. But do you really expect me to play bronze or silver again? No, I refuse to do that, it's boring and you don't get enough money or experience there. Playing one UUG match will bring your level from 1 to 10. I have promoted 9 characters so far :-). My usual weapons of choise for this are: GPS, Claymore and Harrier.

So what have you guys done with your level 1's?

These are not my best runs but just a few screens I took during this weekend:






Myth busted!

This only proves that the guys you played with SUCKED!!!!!