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The reasons I don't use Dark Channel.


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soultaker65

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I know how good DC is but I don't use it for the following reasons.

1. It doesn't set off BEs. This is the main reason using DC instead of Throw while close to the enemy it can and will get you killed since it doesn't set off BEs.

2. It's BEs are the weakest and slowest the Fury can do. Even at rank 6 DC has one of the weakest BE it the game it's also one of the slowest primer only power in the game.

3. It has no base extra ability like a debuff or DR. This really kills this power for me, and rank 5 Slow isn't that great.

4. It doesn't stack with itself.  Even Pull and Lash can stack with themselves.

5. It's a long range power. Since it doesn't set off BE it a long range power on a character I use in super close range, and even if I did use it from long range I would do more damage with a weapon than I would with DC's DoT.

Like I said I know all of it's good points like how it stops enemy shield regen and how when it kill one enemy it jumps to another enemy and primes it, but I use it 2 maybe 3 times a match and thats just not worth 21 points. 

Edit: It's amazing that after I've repeatedly said I know how to use DC almost every response is either " your doing it wrong" or "here's how you use it". Never change BSN never change.

Modifié par soultaker65, 26 août 2012 - 08:15 .


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Biotic_Warlock

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6. It's not green.

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The Aesthetic Ghant

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Now THAT is a cool story.

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It just wouldn't feel like a good day on BSN without another quality post from soultaker65.

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soultaker65

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Ashen Earth wrote...

It just wouldn't feel like a good day on BSN without another quality post from soultaker65.


It also wouldn't feel like a good day on BSN without another quality response from Ashen Earth.

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Nuisance78

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Bioware buff Dark Channel.

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Captain Funky Blimp

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Somebody nerf my trousers!

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l2chainDCbioticexplosions

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DarthVarner

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1 - It's a priming power, and it's phenemonal when you chain it among mooks. Does solid damage to bosses too, and it one-shot kills phantoms (eventually).

2 - Do you actually understand how BE's work? Really? Cause this pretty much screams "I have no clue about the mechanics of this game." The strength of BEs is calculated exclusively from the ranks of the priming and detonating powers. That's it. It can be modified by evolutions in Warp, Throw, Shockwave and the like... but a DC-primed BE is the exact same "strength" as any other BE. Honestly after seeing this level of derp I'm not sure why I'm going on, but I'll just bury your entire post for good measure.

3 - Sounds like you're confusing DC with Reave or Warp. Try again.

4 - Quick recharge + higher base damage not doing it for you?

5 - Heaven forbid we permit versatility in character design! Why, I think infiltrators should be stuck with the zoomed-in FoV because they're only intended to be used at range! WHAT YOU SAY?! THEY'RE USING SHOTGUNS NOW?! WE CAN'T HAVE THAT!

tl;dr - This post can be summed up as follows: Hi, my name is Soultaker65 and I can't use the N7 Fury. I'm just completely horrible at the class. I only play specific enemies on specific maps, and I don't know how the game works. For the love of God and your own sanity, don't listen to anything I say.

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The Aesthetic Ghant

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DarthVarner wrote...

1 - It's a priming power, and it's phenemonal when you chain it among mooks. Does solid damage to bosses too, and it one-shot kills phantoms (eventually).

2 - Do you actually understand how BE's work? Really? Cause this pretty much screams "I have no clue about the mechanics of this game." The strength of BEs is calculated exclusively from the ranks of the priming and detonating powers. That's it. It can be modified by evolutions in Warp, Throw, Shockwave and the like... but a DC-primed BE is the exact same "strength" as any other BE. Honestly after seeing this level of derp I'm not sure why I'm going on, but I'll just bury your entire post for good measure.

3 - Sounds like you're confusing DC with Reave or Warp. Try again.

4 - Quick recharge + higher base damage not doing it for you?

5 - Heaven forbid we permit versatility in character design! Why, I think infiltrators should be stuck with the zoomed-in FoV because they're only intended to be used at range! WHAT YOU SAY?! THEY'RE USING SHOTGUNS NOW?! WE CAN'T HAVE THAT!

tl;dr - This post can be summed up as follows: Hi, my name is Soultaker65 and I can't use the N7 Fury. I'm just completely horrible at the class. I only play specific enemies on specific maps, and I don't know how the game works. For the love of God and your own sanity, don't listen to anything I say.


That escalated quickly. 

Modifié par The Aesthetic Ghant, 26 août 2012 - 05:56 .


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soultaker65 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

It just wouldn't feel like a good day on BSN without another quality post from soultaker65.


It also wouldn't feel like a good day on BSN without another quality response from Ashen Earth.

I'm sensing some hostility.

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He's right about one thing: DC as a primer hasn't an evolution that boosts the potential of biotic explosions like warp. But any other primer with the exception of said warp, lash and pull hasn't that...

For reference, biotic primers:
Smash, Lash, Pull, Warp, Reave, Annihilation Field, Dark Channel, Lift grenade, Barrier, Singularity, Stasis.

I maybe forgot something, feel free to add more.

Modifié par MastahDisastah, 26 août 2012 - 06:06 .


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Ramsutin

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soultaker65 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

It just wouldn't feel like a good day on BSN without another quality post from soultaker65.


It also wouldn't feel like a good day on BSN without another quality response from Ashen Earth.

What if I were to tell you that you both are excellent players with lots of in-game knowledge?

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...

6. It's not green.


This. Why couldn't it be green?

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I opened this post thinking the title actually might actually mean, "Here's an awesome build for a Fury that leverages other powers excellently at the expense of Dark Channel." Didn't realize it actually meant, "Five arbitrary reasons why I don't like Dark Channel."

Here is one solid reason why Dark Channel is excellent: It is a biotic power that can't be dodged. Slap a Phantom with it at close range, and when they come at you, detonate your Annihilation Field. The resulting explosion is powerful enough to kill them practically instantly on Gold.

I totally get that it's not perfect for every build or play style, but I have to disagree with the general tone of the first post's implications that the power is somehow flawed for not being what you wish it were.

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NinthGeorgesw wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

6. It's not green.


This. Why couldn't it be green?

I'm personally actually wondering why Shepard's version isn't blue.
Possibly because s/he learned it from Javik?

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It recharges faster than Warp and jumps from enemy to enemy.
It can't be dodged, it's got a good duration and DOT, and isn't overridden by Tech Powers (Unlike Warp).

Dark Channel is Warp 2.0

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Ramsutin wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

It just wouldn't feel like a good day on BSN without another quality post from soultaker65.


It also wouldn't feel like a good day on BSN without another quality response from Ashen Earth.

What if I were to tell you that you both are excellent players with lots of in-game knowledge?


You would at least be partially telling the truth.

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DarthVarner wrote...

>checks manifest to see if you are new to the game
Ok so few points, DC doesnt have BE enhancers like warp and throw so it actually has the weakest BEs in-game. Also, Fury is mainly run-and-gun with AF+throw as main damage outputters. You can play the class as you like but for CQC DC is not viable.

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Pyth the Bull wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

It just wouldn't feel like a good day on BSN without another quality post from soultaker65.


It also wouldn't feel like a good day on BSN without another quality response from Ashen Earth.

I'm sensing some hostility.


More akin to consensus achieved.

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soultaker65 wrote...

1. It doesn't set off BEs.


Not sure if really bad player or really good troll...

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ToaOrka wrote...

It recharges faster than Warp and jumps from enemy to enemy.
It can't be dodged, it's got a good duration and DOT, and isn't overridden by Tech Powers (Unlike Warp).

Dark Channel is Warp 2.0


Warp 2.0 without Detonation, Expose and Pierce? I'd rather take Warp.

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Black Phantom

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Ramsutin wrote...

DarthVarner wrote...

>checks manifest to see if you are new to the game
Ok so few points, DC doesnt have BE enhancers like warp and throw so it actually has the weakest BEs in-game. Also, Fury is mainly run-and-gun with AF+throw as main damage outputters. You can play the class as you like but for CQC DC is not viable.


You don't need to CQC with DC.

You can just drop it on a Brute or Phantom and walk away, because DC will kill either of them in one cast...

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NinthGeorgesw wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

6. It's not green.


This. Why couldn't it be green?


Because we're not playing protheans.

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ToaOrka

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dzero wrote...

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

6. It's not green.


This. Why couldn't it be green?


Because we're not playing protheans.


Holy ****, Shepard's a prothean!