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[soultaker65]

rmccowen wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

Also: I never edited that Shuriken thread I just added to it.

You're lying. You changed the post title in order to remove the claim that the Shuriken was better than the Hornet. The thread is here, if anyone is curious.

It's relevant to this thread only in that it's another pitch-perfect example of your work: an absurd claim backed up by a patchwork of factual errors, goalpost-shifting, and post-hoc rationalizations.

I changed the Title after the decision was over so no one who read it later would get confused. And since before the first edit I said maybe about the Hornet not definitely.

[HoochieHamiltoe]

SimulatedSnowman wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...
Maybe you can solo Gold better, maybe even Platinum, but we will never know because you lack any form of recording device that can record a tv screen. We can go off your manifest or what other people who play with say, but no hard proof. I also tend to view any console player's manifest with a bit of suspicion due to the rampant missile launcher glitching exclusive to consoles.

Not that I am accusing you of doing that or anything.

I can't blame you for looking at all console players' manifests with suspicion. I do the same with PC players, due to the rampant credit glitching.

What a ridiculous thing to say. 

I agree a 100% with you on this post. There are console players such as myself that have earned everything they have in there Manifest "the right way". For you to say something like that about console players makes you look like an ass. 

I don't just randomly look at someones manifest and think well he is a missile glitcher. Most of us gamers on this board go about things the right way. So, please stop assuming. 

[HoochieHamiltoe]

rmccowen wrote...

Shawn22OS wrote...

OP, while I do think most of your posts with builds are whacky and ineffective for the most part. I don't see why people get all bent out of shape just because you enjoy trying different setups, and HAVING FUN.

Because:

I, personally wouldn't take my Fury out for a spin without DC, but if you do that is your thing. And, there is not a single problem with that. The whole point of playing this game is to enjoy it.

He's welcome to do whatever he wants with his characters, honestly. The frustration, for me, is that he tends to make value claims about whatever he's doing wrong at the moment that are incorrect and/or misleading. What if someone read the Shuriken thread and actually believed the OP? What if someone read this thread and concluded that skipping Dark Channel is a good idea, rather than something you do if you're bored and looking for a way to handicap yourself?

People search this forum for information, build ideas, and weapon recommendations, and soultaker65's threads are in the mix. There needs to be pushback--and enough of it, with enough factual information, to demonstrate to readers that they shouldn't take him seriously.

I completely understand where you are coming from. Being regulars to the forums we know what we are getting everytime he starts a new topic, but for the newbies they could definitely be getting the wrong message. 

[soultaker65]

rmccowen wrote...
What if someone read this thread and concluded that skipping Dark Channel is a good idea, rather than something you do if you're bored and looking for a way to handicap yourself? 

Did you even read the Fury thread I said clearly that if you use DC a lot there is no reason to use that build besides trying something difference.

The only edits where about the weapons I used and how I tried DC again.

[DHKany]

Dark Channel passed the Phantom test by me with an A+.
Enough reason for me to use it.

[DHKany]

death_for_sale wrote...

Maybe you can solo Gold better, maybe even Platinum, but we will never know because you lack any form of recording device that can record a tv screen. We can go off your manifest or what other people who play with say, but no hard proof. I also tend to view any console player's manifest with a bit of suspicion due to the rampant missile launcher glitching exclusive to consoles.

Not that I am accusing you of doing that or anything.

And I also tend to view PC manifests more carefully since they can one shot gold banshees with avengers, an exploit exclusive to the PC.

Not that I am accusing you of doing that or anything.

[soultaker65]

rmccowen wrote...

People search this forum for information, build ideas, and weapon recommendations, and soultaker65's threads are in the mix. There needs to be pushback--and enough of it, with enough factual information, to demonstrate to readers that they shouldn't take him seriously.

So people can search for builds but because no like my builds there bad even if they work of some?

So people can search for weapon recommendation but because I say the Shuriken, Katana, and Particle Rifle are good I'm wrong?

Because I ask question about stuff I'm not sure about on the Forum that exist to ask about stuff your not sure about that means I don't know how to play this game?

Really?<_<

Whatever.

[Catastrophy]

OP, you add some couple of drawbacks with the power. Valid ones, the lack of setting off BEs probably one of the worst for me.

However, I find it very useful because it can jump from target to target. If that works, you can chain your throws and probably do area damage all around. Therefore it doesn't need the additional BE boost evolutions. I use it for standoff priming when I can't close to the target. With the cooldown evos, I get myself a pretty fast cycle of BEs on the bigger targets. If there's another Biotic I let them prime and do the detonations.
In short, DC is a handy power that complements my arsenal. Is it essential? No. Would I miss it? Dearly.

[NuclearTech76]

Usually I've cast DC on an enemy from range and then forget that they're alive because they won't be for long. Even if you just cast the ability and never detonate it, it's still worth more to me than those ranks in fitness and the passive tree.

[rmccowen]

soultaker65 wrote...

rmccowen wrote...

People search this forum for information, build ideas, and weapon recommendations, and soultaker65's threads are in the mix. There needs to be pushback--and enough of it, with enough factual information, to demonstrate to readers that they shouldn't take him seriously.

So people can search for builds but because no like my builds there bad even if they work of some?

Assuming my translation of that sentence into English is correct, then yes: your builds tend to ignore key skills in exchange for using heavy weapons, without the support that would make those weapons really effective. Your builds tend to be objectively worse than more typical specs, which makes them a bad idea for new players.

So people can search for weapon recommendation but because I say the Shuriken, Katana, and Particle Rifle are good I'm wrong?

The Shuriken and Katana are at the right power level for common weapons, which is to say: worse than the worst uncommon weapons. The Particle Rifle's unusual requirements and drawbacks make it an inappropriate weapon for players of even average experience and/or skill. So again, yes--I would rather new players avoid stumbling across your recommendations and taking them seriously.

Because I ask question about stuff I'm not sure about on the Forum that exist to ask about stuff your not sure about that means I don't know how to play this game?

Lots of people--including me!--ask questions on the forum about things they don't understand or are unsure about. That's emphatically not what you're doing here, or when talking about the Human Sentinel, or when talking about the Particle Rifle, or when talking about the Demolisher.

[Alijah Green]

is soultaker65 a chick because there wasn't a ounce of logic for this topic. or a reason for this thread

[atum]

I cant decide if it's a sad lack of class differentiation or a testament to variety that running a Fury (or any other power class) with a Claymore or Revenant is viable/effective.


Also:

Edit: It's amazing that after I've repeatedly said I know how to use DC almost every response is either " your doing it wrong" or "here's how you use it". Never change BSN never change.

Seems almost the same as what this thread is for -- albeit you use a bit nicer tone. The condescension just seems more veiled. Or appears to be. Maybe I misread the tone in the OP though.

[samb]

I can see why a lot of people don't like it in MP, especially on a close quarters class like the fury.  Why invest in a power that is long range when AF only works in CQC?

It works great in single player for me though.  In fact, it is my favorite power due to its jumping around I can detonate explosions without applying another primer.  I will say that I freeze time to see where it bounced to, which is not something you can do in MP.

I personally only have 3 ranks in it but I do use it quite often.  A fun tactic is to hit something in a crowd with DC, run up to the target and detonate it with AF.  DC jumps to another target and detonate it again with throw, and repeat the process.  It's fun to use the AF that way.  Requires more botton pressing but the stagger the BE and AF do makes it safe.  Just wish I could get 6 ranks in it, but Fury is just too squisy not to invest 6 ranks in fitness.

[samb]

[quote]t6skyart wrote...


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That's why the 6/6/6/4/4 and 6/6/6/0/6 builds are very popular. Get the best of both worlds.[/quote]
Must give that a try.  I use a Hurricane as my main gun anyway so with an expect package V I should still have decent CD.

[RoZh2400]

DC bypasses phantom and Banshee Talk-To-The-Hand move. Also, DC never misses. All the more reason for me to use it over other things, like Warp. I like 100% accuracy over 20%, personally.

[r3apz515]

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

6. It's not green.

This. Why couldn't it be green?

 because only Protheans can produce such things as green

or just mess aroudn withur monitor settings to have all blue washed out and green as the primary in the RBG channels

[Pee Jae]

I use a 6/6/6/0/6 build on my Fury. I don't like getting too close with her for AF to prime because of her squishyness and half the time I do that, throw won't work anyway. So, I hang back, DC, then throw. Generally, if I do get close enough to set AF off, I'm already shooting it with my Hurricane anyway.

Personal preference. We dig it.

P.S. I've also solo'd Bronze games, DC'd a Brute and then kited it around the map until it died.  Handy if no one ever joins your game.

Modifié par t_skwerl, 27 août 2012 - 07:46 .

[unclemonster]

samb wrote...

t6skyart wrote...

That's why the 6/6/6/4/4 and 6/6/6/0/6 builds are very popular. Get the best of both worlds.

I like the 6/6/6/0/6 build myself. You get everything you need with it.

Modifié par unclemonster, 27 août 2012 - 07:53 .