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Okay, I'm sure everyone here has been asked this before.

Here's my experience to date - I have played all of Dragon Age Origins, Awakenings, and the various DLC for Origins. I thoroughly enjoyed Origins. Loved it. Played through it several times with different characters. I liked The Stone Golem, Return to Ostagar, and Warden's Keep.

I did not like any of the other DLC: Darkspawn Chronicles, Witch Hunt, Golems of Amgarrak, and Leliana's Song. I did not like the Awakenings expansion at all - in some ways, it damaged my love of Ferelden and I've been reluctant to play Origins again as a result.

If I take the risk and play Dragon Age II, do you think I will find my love of the setting again?

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Judging by your dislike of Awakening and other DLC, I don't think you'd like Dragon Age 2.

Modifié par MichaelStuart, 26 août 2012 - 09:38 .


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If you don't mind me asking, what exactly was it you didn't like about Awakening and the other DLCs?

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King Cousland wrote...

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly was it you didn't like about Awakening and the other DLCs?


I was going to say the same thing...

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If your planning on playing DA3 then yes. Other then that, no. It's not really worth it especially since you hated Awakening and the other DLCs.

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MichaelStuart wrote...

Judging by your dislike of Awakening and other DLC, I don't think you'd like Dragon Age 2.


Any specific reason? I  liked all of the DLC that could be played within Origins itself, after all.

Common story elements? Crafting systems? Lack of continuity or coherency?

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Arisugawa wrote...

MichaelStuart wrote...

Judging by your dislike of Awakening and other DLC, I don't think you'd like Dragon Age 2.


Any specific reason? I  liked all of the DLC that could be played within Origins itself, after all.

Common story elements? Crafting systems? Lack of continuity or coherency?


Well, the crafting has been slightly simplified, and traps were removed from the equation on what you can create. 

Otherwise, the only thiing that is common is that Qunari are feared, elves are second class citizens, and mages are dangerous. You know, the socio-political stuff. 

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Well DA2s story isn't the whole save the world affair so it's different. And you do get to know Kirkwall more than say Denerim since the whole game is set there. The crafting system is different I suppose. The gameplay is much better and the writing is also very good. Despite what people say DA2 is a great game. It is very different form Origins and it's DLCs so i'd recommend you give it a go.

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The thing is i haven't seen a lot of people loving both DA:O and DA2. If you like being more of an active participant in a RPG, such as DA:O, you probably won't appreciate DA2. On the other hand if you like being an passive participant, such as ME, then you will probably like DA2. These are obviously just my opinions on the two games different approach to story telling.

It would be easier to asses the probability of you liking DA2 given that you liked DA:O if you could say what you liked about DA:O.

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Did you like the gameplay in DA:O? Because that is the biggest change.

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Cstaf wrote...

The thing is i haven't seen a lot of people loving both DA:O and DA2. If you like being more of an active participant in a RPG, such as DA:O, you probably won't appreciate DA2. On the other hand if you like being an passive participant, such as ME, then you will probably like DA2. These are obviously just my opinions on the two games different approach to story telling.

It would be easier to asses the probability of you liking DA2 given that you liked DA:O if you could say what you liked about DA:O.


True, although I am the exception to the rule since I do like both. I say, give it a try in the end. 

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If you're playing for the romance aspect of the game, it's not worth it. The romances, while not bad, lacked that extra layer of depth such as commitment (imo). If you play for nothing else, it's wise to have some saves ready to be imported into Da3 as a user stated above.

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Just play it. It's cheap and I like it. On a sidenote I don't have awakening or the dlc either except for the stone prisoner. I think DAO finished perfectly. Did you try the Demo? I enjoy the sections on the demo.

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Arisugawa wrote...

MichaelStuart wrote...

Judging by your dislike of Awakening and other DLC, I don't think you'd like Dragon Age 2.


Any specific reason? I  liked all of the DLC that could be played within Origins itself, after all.

Common story elements? Crafting systems? Lack of continuity or coherency?


Sorry, when I said other DLC I meant to say the DLC you didn't like.

I feel that a lot of what Bioware did with Dragon Age 2 can be seen in be seen in the non-Origins related DLC. Namely the heavy use of combat, the reuse of maps, and lack of story options.

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King Cousland wrote...

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly was it you didn't like about Awakening and the other DLCs?


Nearly everything is plot and character related. I felt that some aspects fundamentally changed how the story of Origins had to be viewed, and other aspects were completely unnecessary and didn't enhance the setting in any meaningful way.

Witch Hunt: Terribly anti-climactic, and a completely unsatisfactory resolution if you are a female Warden. I suspect that might be the same if you were a male Warden who didn't romance her. In the end, I didn't feel like anything was gained by playing it.

Darkspawn Chronicles: I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to feel about this. Obviously, it was meant to be a fun little diversion and not much more, but it was still painful to actively take part in the death of characters I had come to love.

Leiliana's Song: A few things that took place here do not seem to mesh with the version she tells you in Origins. I understand that's partially the point, that a bard's story may vary depending on who the audience is. But that's not why I wanted to play her story. She was always my primary love interest in Origins, and I wasn't interested in a version of her past. I wanted to see what actually happened. So either she's lying in the DLC, or she's lying to me in Origins. The feeling of uncertainty I had after the story was concluded was disappointing.

Golems of Amgarrak: Didn't particularly care how this modified what we knew of Golems from Origins, or at least what was done in a desperate attempt to reclaim the knowledge Caridin took with him. Saying that, I kind of liked the puzzle aspect of it.

The Awakenings Expansion: Hated the Architect. Hated the idea that the Darkspawn were far different than the way Origins presented them. Hated that I was essentially making Wardens out of every character I was coming across.

Modifié par Arisugawa, 26 août 2012 - 10:01 .


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LinksOcarina wrote...

Cstaf wrote...

The thing is i haven't seen a lot of people loving both DA:O and DA2. If you like being more of an active participant in a RPG, such as DA:O, you probably won't appreciate DA2. On the other hand if you like being an passive participant, such as ME, then you will probably like DA2. These are obviously just my opinions on the two games different approach to story telling.

It would be easier to asses the probability of you liking DA2 given that you liked DA:O if you could say what you liked about DA:O.


True, although I am the exception to the rule since I do like both. I say, give it a try in the end. 


Don't you dare try to poke holes in my narrative!

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Cstaf wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Cstaf wrote...

The thing is i haven't seen a lot of people loving both DA:O and DA2. If you like being more of an active participant in a RPG, such as DA:O, you probably won't appreciate DA2. On the other hand if you like being an passive participant, such as ME, then you will probably like DA2. These are obviously just my opinions on the two games different approach to story telling.

It would be easier to asses the probability of you liking DA2 given that you liked DA:O if you could say what you liked about DA:O.


True, although I am the exception to the rule since I do like both. I say, give it a try in the end. 



Don't you dare try to poke holes in my narrative!


Too late.

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 You seem to be easily annoyed by games :lol:.

Anyway. Play the demo and decide then. 

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Dragon_Effect 15511 wrote...

 You seem to be easily annoyed by games :lol:.

Anyway. Play the demo and decide then. 


Yeah...I admit I'm a big stickler for plot and character. :innocent:

Things that do not bother other players tend to get under my skin.

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Arisugawa wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly was it you didn't like about Awakening and the other DLCs?


Nearly everything is plot and character related. I felt that some aspects fundamentally changed how the story of Origins had to be viewed, and other aspects were completely unnecessary and didn't enhance the setting in any meaningful way.

Witch Hunt: Terribly anti-climactic, and a completely unsatisfactory resolution if you are a female Warden. I suspect that might be the same if you were a male Warden who didn't romance her. In the end, I didn't feel like anything was gained by playing it.

Darkspawn Chronicles: I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to feel about this. Obviously, it was meant to be a fun little diversion and not much more, but it was still painful to actively take part in the death of characters I had come to love.

Leiliana's Song: A few things that took place here do not seem to mesh with the version she tells you in Origins. I understand that's partially the point, that a bard's story may vary depending on who the audience is. But that's not why I wanted to play her story. She was always my primary love interest in Origins, and I wasn't interested in a version of her past. I wanted to see what actually happened. So either she's lying in the DLC, or she's lying to me in Origins. The feeling of uncertainty I had after the story was concluded was disappointing.

Golems of Amgarrak: Didn't particularly care how this modified what we knew of Golems from Origins, or at least what was done in a desperate attempt to reclaim the knowledge Caridin took with him. Saying that, I kind of liked the puzzle aspect of it.

The Awakenings Expansion: Hated the Architect. Hated the idea that the Darkspawn were far different than the way Origins presented them. Hated that I was essentially making Wardens out of every character I was coming across.


Hmm, yeah i think you should either try the demo or skip it.

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If you cherish the memories you have of DA:O then do not go near DA2... It is so bad that afterwards you will feel uninterested in the DA universe.

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Arisugawa. Something tells me you won't like DAII. The lovers of Dao are those who feel stronger than anyone else about this sequel.

The biggest issue is that you'll feel that you / this game lost a lot of things compared to DAO.

Try the demo. :)

Modifié par Sylvianus, 26 août 2012 - 10:35 .


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Sylvianus wrote...

Arisugawa. Something tells me you won't like DAII. The lovers of Dao are those who feel stronger than anyone else about this sequel.

The biggest issue is that you'll feel that you / this game lost a lot of things compared to DAO.

Try the demo :)


Does that mean the people that love DAII the most are those who either disliked or did not play DAO?

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Arisugawa wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Arisugawa. Something tells me you won't like DAII. The lovers of Dao are those who feel stronger than anyone else about this sequel.

The biggest issue is that you'll feel that you / this game lost a lot of things compared to DAO.

Try the demo :)


Does that mean the people that love DAII the most are those who either disliked or did not play DAO?

No i don't think so, i guess they're easily impressed. Dragon Age 2 is not a bad game, it's just when you look at DA:O then take a look at DA2 its a disappointment

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Arisugawa wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Arisugawa. Something tells me you won't like DAII. The lovers of Dao are those who feel stronger than anyone else about this sequel.

The biggest issue is that you'll feel that you / this game lost a lot of things compared to DAO.

Try the demo :)


Does that mean the people that love DAII the most are those who either disliked or did not play DAO?

Those who didn't play DAO before DAII, those who didn't care much about DAO, those who didn't like DAO ( because of gameplay, story, silent protagonist, etc )  those who were interested by the first episode, but weren't that much impressed either. Etc, etc. There are people who loved DAII for what it was despite its faults too.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 26 août 2012 - 10:42 .