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#151
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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

This is very difficult to explain. I see the Catalyst more than just an AI. I'm just saying that I like the fact that it exists. It gives a different feel to the plot, and I welcome it. I'm trying the best I can to explain this.

I mean, I myself do not have any reason to hate how here appeared, let alone how the scene was made.


Then you liked the graphical interface of the communication with the Cat and how that translates the story plot, divining the reaper threat?

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

This is very difficult to explain. I see the Catalyst more than just an AI. I'm just saying that I like the fact that it exists. It gives a different feel to the plot, and I welcome it. I'm trying the best I can to explain this.

I mean, I myself do not have any reason to hate how here appeared, let alone how the scene was made.

That's where you're wrong though, it was created, by organics, to serve a purpose and it eventually went mad due to the weight of the task before it. And difference to the plot? Hardly, anything that comes in the few minutes before something ends has little to no bearing on the plot..

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Wayning_Star wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

This is very difficult to explain. I see the Catalyst more than just an AI. I'm just saying that I like the fact that it exists. It gives a different feel to the plot, and I welcome it. I'm trying the best I can to explain this.

I mean, I myself do not have any reason to hate how here appeared, let alone how the scene was made.


Then you liked the graphical interface of the communication with the Cat and how that translates the story plot, divining the reaper threat?


I can't explain it to well. He's just there and I have no problem with it. I like the scene, the conversation, the music. I don't have to agree with what it wanted in order to like how this part of the plot was shown.

I picked Destroy for crying out loud, but I still like that moment in time.

Note: I haven't scene the EC for My Story yet.

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It didn't go mad, and it's not corrupted. That's just how an AI thinks. Has anyone ever read iRobot? Seriously, you all should.

AI logic is so f*cking backwards and nonsensical that anyone with an IQ above 10 would beable to call them out on their bullsh*t.

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To OP: You stick to your opinion and ignore the hate. You've got seriously big balls to create this thread.

I find it difficult to like the catalyst from any perspective but reading your opinion on the AI is interesting.

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Logan Cloud wrote...

It didn't go mad, and it's not corrupted. That's just how an AI thinks. Has anyone ever read iRobot? Seriously, you all should.

AI logic is so f*cking backwards and nonsensical that anyone with an IQ above 10 would beable to call them out on their bullsh*t.


being master of a universe isn't all it's cracked up to be..as it were. Posted Image

Posted Image Don't be mad at Shepard, he was severly,er mortally wounded an mentally beamed up to chat with Cat..He did have a rough day.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

This is very difficult to explain. I see the Catalyst more than just an AI. I'm just saying that I like the fact that it exists. It gives a different feel to the plot, and I welcome it. I'm trying the best I can to explain this.

I mean, I myself do not have any reason to hate how here appeared, let alone how the scene was made.


Then you liked the graphical interface of the communication with the Cat and how that translates the story plot, divining the reaper threat?


I can't explain it to well. He's just there and I have no problem with it. I like the scene, the conversation, the music. I don't have to agree with what it wanted in order to like how this part of the plot was shown.

I picked Destroy for crying out loud, but I still like that moment in time.

Note: I haven't scene the EC for My Story yet.


well, folks thought for minute you were 'sympathizing' with the catalyst, that is, seeing its point as a point, thats where the static started to gain.. as many feel that the scene and the catalyst were just 'sprung onto them' out of the blue, heedless of game lore and logical plot progression, as well

I've seen the EC and am not gonna spoil it for you, other than to say, it'll be a bit better for you, maybe? ;^]

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I really don't want arguments. I'm being cautious. I don't
want this place locked.

I'm not doing this to Troll. I'm doing this because it is my
opinion. While I stand here, I'm constantly around people who hate and complain
about the Catalyst, that I feel alone, so I made this Thread.

Yeah, but if I am the only one who holds spite over this,
then tough break.

Please do not tell me that you are all starting to get upset
because ONE person among you doesn't hate or dislike the Catalyst.

I'm not expressing it like it's a bad thing. I'm just
showing that there IS someone who doesn't dislike it.

I guess I the only one. :(

Which will result in something that I do not want to happen:
A Mod locking this Thread.

That would be unfair because I created this Thread and I
wanted to show support. I don't want this to be locked because people hate all
this and want to troll.

Guess what. I'm not trolling. And like I said: I don't like
the Catalyst as in supporting his wanting for destruction. I support the
Presence, the Concept, the Scenery, etc.

OP is indoctrinated.

-That is not the case

Look. I'm not lying and I am not trolling. Ok?

Look, if this is going to be a problem for some of you, I
don't care. Hell I don't care if this Thread becomes the most controversial
Thread on BSN. I didn't make this Thread for people to shun mindlessly.

I am NOT wrong for saying MY 
opinion!

Seriously, if you don't like this thread, don't post in it.

I can't make something without people having a problem with
it. I don't hate the concept of the Catalyst or the fact that he is simply
there. So what?

Omg can't I just make a Thread without people having a
problem with it? I don't care if most of you have a Grudge against what BioWare
create. This is NOT the thread for you. If I'm the only one who doesn't hate or
dislike what happened in the Ending, then so be it. Shunning is highly
unnecessary, and question the OP (Me) is unnecessary. Why should you care if at
least one has a different outlook next to many others?

It's like some of you want this to be locked because you all
want to control BSN with all this hate.

Problem? So YOUR questions are invalid to me. You trying to
turn my own feelings against me is utterly futile!

I appreciate the Concept simply because I DO. I don't have
to share the same opinion as many others. And I don't need a completely
detailed reason why I say these things.

You may see all that, but I don't. Does/Should it make me
unintelligent? No! Why should it. A different outlook and opinion doesn't make
someone less intelligent than someone with a more negative outlook and opinion.
And vice versa.

It's not fair. I can see this Thread getting lock, and no
matter what, it'll be done unfairly, because there re going to be lots of
idiots who are going to troll, causing a Mod to go insane with anger.

People, stop Arguing! I didn't make this Thread for that! I
don't want this thread to be locked all because you have a different opinion.
That's stupid, and selfish!

No, I'm not calling any of you trolls. I am saying that
there are going to be people coming here soon whose purpose will be to do
nothing but troll to get this place locked unfairly. I can se it happening.

No. I don't mean that. I meant that I do not want these
arguements (which are good to have) to get out of hand. Why is everyone taking
this the wrong way?

I can handle it. It's just that it sucks being the minority,
and it sucks when you are required to explain why you are different than the
majority, explaining more than what they have to explain.


You know I'm not one that is for a lot of banning, but if anyone should it seems like it should be you. Not because your a bad person, not because you've made some hateful rant towards another member, or because you come up with troll threads. It's because you bring all of this crap on yourself and make any conversation you include yourself in a complete spectacle of hysteria. Whether you are purposefully trying to stay in the spotlight or if you really just can't control these things you type, you've been nothing but either a headache or punching bag for forum members. Some people will take sympathy on you and others can't wait for you to respond again so they can continue to make fun of you...either way it's very very old. 

I don't really care at this point if any of your friends on this forum come rushing to your defense or if this draws hate on me. Or if you think I'm out to get you too. I feel bad for you guy. I really do. But this place is never going to accept you and it seems like you'll never learn.

Please just stop and if you can't then please someone do it for him.

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maaaze wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

You have hope, more than you think. :)

I know this will shock people but i really like the Catalyst as a character,
it shows the other spectrum of an shackled A.I. , gave the reaper a deeper meaning...and made Mass Effect better as a whole.


No it didn't Posted Image

I mean for you it did. But in the grand scheme of things it ruined the franchise.


a little bit dramatic...? As far as I can see it the franchise is very much alive and kicking.


By very much alive and kicking, I assume you mean like a turtle that's been flipping over on it's shell and is struggling to get back up? Seriously don't make me laugh Maze. Mass Effect lost a crap load of respect from the video game community this year. You have to be blind to deny that.

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FeralEwok wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I really don't want arguments. I'm being cautious. I don't
want this place locked.

I'm not doing this to Troll. I'm doing this because it is my
opinion. While I stand here, I'm constantly around people who hate and complain
about the Catalyst, that I feel alone, so I made this Thread.

Yeah, but if I am the only one who holds spite over this,
then tough break.

Please do not tell me that you are all starting to get upset
because ONE person among you doesn't hate or dislike the Catalyst.

I'm not expressing it like it's a bad thing. I'm just
showing that there IS someone who doesn't dislike it.

I guess I the only one. :(

Which will result in something that I do not want to happen:
A Mod locking this Thread.

That would be unfair because I created this Thread and I
wanted to show support. I don't want this to be locked because people hate all
this and want to troll.

Guess what. I'm not trolling. And like I said: I don't like
the Catalyst as in supporting his wanting for destruction. I support the
Presence, the Concept, the Scenery, etc.

OP is indoctrinated.

-That is not the case

Look. I'm not lying and I am not trolling. Ok?

Look, if this is going to be a problem for some of you, I
don't care. Hell I don't care if this Thread becomes the most controversial
Thread on BSN. I didn't make this Thread for people to shun mindlessly.

I am NOT wrong for saying MY 
opinion!

Seriously, if you don't like this thread, don't post in it.

I can't make something without people having a problem with
it. I don't hate the concept of the Catalyst or the fact that he is simply
there. So what?

Omg can't I just make a Thread without people having a
problem with it? I don't care if most of you have a Grudge against what BioWare
create. This is NOT the thread for you. If I'm the only one who doesn't hate or
dislike what happened in the Ending, then so be it. Shunning is highly
unnecessary, and question the OP (Me) is unnecessary. Why should you care if at
least one has a different outlook next to many others?

It's like some of you want this to be locked because you all
want to control BSN with all this hate.

Problem? So YOUR questions are invalid to me. You trying to
turn my own feelings against me is utterly futile!

I appreciate the Concept simply because I DO. I don't have
to share the same opinion as many others. And I don't need a completely
detailed reason why I say these things.

You may see all that, but I don't. Does/Should it make me
unintelligent? No! Why should it. A different outlook and opinion doesn't make
someone less intelligent than someone with a more negative outlook and opinion.
And vice versa.

It's not fair. I can see this Thread getting lock, and no
matter what, it'll be done unfairly, because there re going to be lots of
idiots who are going to troll, causing a Mod to go insane with anger.

People, stop Arguing! I didn't make this Thread for that! I
don't want this thread to be locked all because you have a different opinion.
That's stupid, and selfish!

No, I'm not calling any of you trolls. I am saying that
there are going to be people coming here soon whose purpose will be to do
nothing but troll to get this place locked unfairly. I can se it happening.

No. I don't mean that. I meant that I do not want these
arguements (which are good to have) to get out of hand. Why is everyone taking
this the wrong way?

I can handle it. It's just that it sucks being the minority,
and it sucks when you are required to explain why you are different than the
majority, explaining more than what they have to explain.


You know I'm not one that is for a lot of banning, but if anyone should it seems like it should be you. Not because your a bad person, not because you've made some hateful rant towards another member, or because you come up with troll threads. It's because you bring all of this crap on yourself and make any conversation you include yourself in a complete spectacle of hysteria. Whether you are purposefully trying to stay in the spotlight or if you really just can't control these things you type, you've been nothing but either a headache or punching bag for forum members. Some people will take sympathy on you and others can't wait for you to respond again so they can continue to make fun of you...either way it's very very old. 

I don't really care at this point if any of your friends on this forum come rushing to your defense or if this draws hate on me. Or if you think I'm out to get you too. I feel bad for you guy. I really do. But this place is never going to accept you and it seems like you'll never learn.

Please just stop and if you can't then please someone do it for him.



. But this place is never going to accept you and it seems like you'll never learn.
I'd wager that if any moderators actually read that, they'll copy and print just for posterity..Posted Image

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

You have hope, more than you think. :)

I know this will shock people but i really like the Catalyst as a character,
it shows the other spectrum of an shackled A.I. , gave the reaper a deeper meaning...and made Mass Effect better as a whole.


No it didn't Posted Image

I mean for you it did. But in the grand scheme of things it ruined the franchise.


a little bit dramatic...? As far as I can see it the franchise is very much alive and kicking.


By very much alive and kicking, I assume you mean like a turtle that's been flipping over on it's shell and is struggling to get back up? Seriously don't make me laugh Maze. Mass Effect lost a crap load of respect from the video game community this year. You have to be blind to deny that.


I dunno, it would seem if the BSN were the majority, maybe, but..it isn't. Most just have mixed emotions. imho

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Wayning_Star wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

You have hope, more than you think. :)

I know this will shock people but i really like the Catalyst as a character,
it shows the other spectrum of an shackled A.I. , gave the reaper a deeper meaning...and made Mass Effect better as a whole.


No it didn't Posted Image

I mean for you it did. But in the grand scheme of things it ruined the franchise.


a little bit dramatic...? As far as I can see it the franchise is very much alive and kicking.


By very much alive and kicking, I assume you mean like a turtle that's been flipping over on it's shell and is struggling to get back up? Seriously don't make me laugh Maze. Mass Effect lost a crap load of respect from the video game community this year. You have to be blind to deny that.


I dunno, it would seem if the BSN were the majority, maybe, but..it isn't. Most just have mixed emotions. imho


I have a very good long term memory. Every website I went to back in March that talked about ME3, most people were disappointed or pissed off. I know that for certainty. Nowadays people rarely talk about it anymore, save for BSN.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 27 août 2012 - 01:44 .


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Wayning_Star wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

You have hope, more than you think. :)

I know this will shock people but i really like the Catalyst as a character,
it shows the other spectrum of an shackled A.I. , gave the reaper a deeper meaning...and made Mass Effect better as a whole.


No it didn't Posted Image

I mean for you it did. But in the grand scheme of things it ruined the franchise.


a little bit dramatic...? As far as I can see it the franchise is very much alive and kicking.


By very much alive and kicking, I assume you mean like a turtle that's been flipping over on it's shell and is struggling to get back up? Seriously don't make me laugh Maze. Mass Effect lost a crap load of respect from the video game community this year. You have to be blind to deny that.


I dunno, it would seem if the BSN were the majority, maybe, but..it isn't. Most just have mixed emotions. imho



He isn't joking though me3 did lose a lot of respect within the gaming community hell even ea got the worst company of america award which is amazing since I always thought capcom would probably receive that reward as of late

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LiarasShield wrote...

He isn't joking though me3 did lose a lot of respect within the gaming community hell even ea got the worst company of america award which is amazing since I always thought capcom would probably receive that reward as of late


I was always saying EA, Activi$on, Capcom, or Bank of America was gonna get it. Which is sad because I grew up on Capcom but I never liked EA

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I mean I don't try to sound dramatic when I say these things about the franchise. But it is what it is.

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:(

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LiarasShield wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

You have hope, more than you think. :)

I know this will shock people but i really like the Catalyst as a character,
it shows the other spectrum of an shackled A.I. , gave the reaper a deeper meaning...and made Mass Effect better as a whole.


No it didn't Posted Image

I mean for you it did. But in the grand scheme of things it ruined the franchise.


a little bit dramatic...? As far as I can see it the franchise is very much alive and kicking.


By very much alive and kicking, I assume you mean like a turtle that's been flipping over on it's shell and is struggling to get back up? Seriously don't make me laugh Maze. Mass Effect lost a crap load of respect from the video game community this year. You have to be blind to deny that.


I dunno, it would seem if the BSN were the majority, maybe, but..it isn't. Most just have mixed emotions. imho



He isn't joking though me3 did lose a lot of respect within the gaming community hell even ea got the worst company of america award which is amazing since I always thought capcom would probably receive that reward as of late


all in all, its not that bad of a game, nore is it the worse company for games by far. The hubris is manufactured. Here on the BSN, many are reconsidering their assessments as pre mature. Eventhough, as this OP describes, it's a name calling event, many of the objections to the game and it's contents. Not an equitable exchange of opinion. BiowarEa can only sit back and see their reward for it's conception.

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What sucks is that because of all this hate, ME3 will not be able to win Best Game Of The Year. Haters won't allow it.:(

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 27 août 2012 - 01:52 .


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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

What sucks is that because of all this hate, ME3 will not be able to win Best Game Of The Year. Haters won't allow it.:(


Who gives a f*ck what others think of it?

It's my "game of the year" and that's all that matters to me.

Modifié par shepdog77, 27 août 2012 - 01:52 .


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shepdog77 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

What sucks is that because of all this hate, ME3 will not be able to win Best Game Of The Year. Haters won't allow it.:(


Who gives a f*ck what others think of it?

It's my "game of the year" and that's all that matters to me.


Same here. I Love the Game, but I just kinda feel that the hopes of it winning said Award are starting to disappear.

There's so much hate for it. I can only imagine how many people are still cursing out about it, whining about it, breaking things because of it, and making stupid videos about it.

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 27 août 2012 - 01:55 .


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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

What sucks is that because of all this hate, ME3 will not be able to win Best Game Of The Year. Haters won't allow it.:(


Who gives a f*ck what others think of it?

It's my "game of the year" and that's all that matters to me.


Same here. I Love the Game, but I just kinda feel that the hopes of it winning said Award starting to disappear.


Mass Effect games never win VGAs.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

What sucks is that because of all this hate, ME3 will not be able to win Best Game Of The Year. Haters won't allow it.:(


Who gives a f*ck what others think of it?

It's my "game of the year" and that's all that matters to me.


Same here. I Love the Game, but I just kinda feel that the hopes of it winning said Award are starting to disappear.

There's so much hate for it. I can only imagine how many people are still cursing out about it, whining about it, breaking things because of it, and making stupid videos about it.


calm down, don't get all worked up..lol

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MegaSovereign wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

What sucks is that because of all this hate, ME3 will not be able to win Best Game Of The Year. Haters won't allow it.:(


Who gives a f*ck what others think of it?

It's my "game of the year" and that's all that matters to me.


Same here. I Love the Game, but I just kinda feel that the hopes of it winning said Award starting to disappear.


Mass Effect games never win VGAs.


really? that seems strange, they put a lot of work into this one, I thought?

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LiarasShield wrote...

He isn't joking though me3 did lose a lot of respect within the gaming community hell even ea got the worst company of america award which is amazing since I always thought capcom would probably receive that reward as of late


Capcom is a Japanese company.

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Hopefully it will be just like LOTR. The last Film won for Best Picture of the Year. Hopefully ME3 gets the same treatment.