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[Wayning_Star]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Hopefully it will be just like LOTR. The last Film won for Best Picture of the Year. Hopefully ME3 gets the same treatment.

OP, it's getting off topic, surely will invoke a moderator..disdain..

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

It all goes back to the the whole part with the Catalyst. That is where most of the hate comes from. And that hate may also cause ME3 to lose.

[LiarasShield]

Wayning_Star wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

You have hope, more than you think.

I know this will shock people but i really like the Catalyst as a character,
it shows the other spectrum of an shackled A.I. , gave the reaper a deeper meaning...and made Mass Effect better as a whole.

No it didn't

I mean for you it did. But in the grand scheme of things it ruined the franchise.

a little bit dramatic...? As far as I can see it the franchise is very much alive and kicking.

By very much alive and kicking, I assume you mean like a turtle that's been flipping over on it's shell and is struggling to get back up? Seriously don't make me laugh Maze. Mass Effect lost a crap load of respect from the video game community this year. You have to be blind to deny that.

I dunno, it would seem if the BSN were the majority, maybe, but..it isn't. Most just have mixed emotions. imho

He isn't joking though me3 did lose a lot of respect within the gaming community hell even ea got the worst company of america award which is amazing since I always thought capcom would probably receive that reward as of late

all in all, its not that bad of a game, nore is it the worse company for games by far. The hubris is manufactured. Here on the BSN, many are reconsidering their assessments as pre mature. Eventhough, as this OP describes, it's a name calling event, many of the objections to the game and it's contents. Not an equitable exchange of opinion. BiowarEa can only sit back and see their reward for it's conception.

well statstics are statistics friend ea wouldn't have gotten the worst company in america award if a lot of people weren angry or disatisfied by them

[MegaSovereign]

I severely doubt that Mass Effect has any real weight on why EA is considered to be the worst company in America.

[C9316]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

It all goes back to the the whole part with the Catalyst. That is where most of the hate comes from. And that hate may also cause ME3 to lose.

Or....and this is just a thought, maybe the hate also comes from things like the autodialouge, the fact that your choices amount to nothing, story hiccups, cut corners, etc, etc...

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

C9316 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

It all goes back to the the whole part with the Catalyst. That is where most of the hate comes from. And that hate may also cause ME3 to lose.

Or....and this is just a thought, maybe the hate also comes from things like the autodialouge, the fact that your choices amount to nothing, story hiccups, cut corners, etc, etc...

That is why I said "Most...."

[Wayning_Star]

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well statstics are statistics friend ea wouldn't have gotten the worst company in america award if a lot of people weren angry or disatisfied by them
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well,it's off topic, but to say statistics rule isn't a bad or great arguement, but still, public opinion should change if it's unfair word of mouth advertizing. Most of that was from the interaction of game makers and their fan base,who were insufferably frustrated. Overly so, imo. I think folks will come around, as the ME matures as a positive note in VG's.

IF for nothing else, their commendable effort in immersive games. ME trilogy takes that cake by far. No other game can garner the fan attention that ME does. They actually CARE about it..

Interesting, imho

[Ticonderoga117]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

It all goes back to the the whole part with the Catalyst. That is where most of the hate comes from. And that hate may also cause ME3 to lose.

And this is a problem why? If you introduce a narrative element that makes 2 full games and 95% of the third game completely pointless, then yeah, you don't deserve to get anything else.

[C9316]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

C9316 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

It all goes back to the the whole part with the Catalyst. That is where most of the hate comes from. And that hate may also cause ME3 to lose.

Or....and this is just a thought, maybe the hate also comes from things like the autodialouge, the fact that your choices amount to nothing, story hiccups, cut corners, etc, etc...

That is why I said "Most...."

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the things I posted carry alot more weight than the ending, if anything the ending was just the icing on the steaming pile of crap ME3 was. I'm honestly just tired of the notion that everything in ME3 except the ending was acceptable, that's just not true..

[billy the squid]

C9316 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

It all goes back to the the whole part with the Catalyst. That is where most of the hate comes from. And that hate may also cause ME3 to lose.

Or....and this is just a thought, maybe the hate also comes from things like the autodialouge, the fact that your choices amount to nothing, story hiccups, cut corners, etc, etc...

This one's for you Chris!

Modifié par billy the squid, 27 août 2012 - 02:15 .

[Wayning_Star]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

It all goes back to the the whole part with the Catalyst. That is where most of the hate comes from. And that hate may also cause ME3 to lose.

And this is a problem why? If you introduce a narrative element that makes 2 full games and 95% of the third game completely pointless, then yeah, you don't deserve to get anything else.

but, it didn't for me, I didn't get the evil rush that these type posts emit? 95% of the third game is an impossible percentage? Really, it is...not possible.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

The whole Catalyst scene wasn't unexpected for me. Wanna know why? I saw the scene on YouTube. I was ready. And even then I didn't really have a problem with the Scene.

[Wayning_Star]

This one's for you Chris!

The Bat would never swat Robin..ever!! They're pals.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

^ I hate that picture.

[Wayning_Star]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

The whole Catalyst scene wasn't unexpected for me. Wanna know why? I saw the scene on YouTube. I was ready. And even then I didn't really have a problem with the Scene.

uh oh, thats where most of the trouble came from, what with the sneaky previews and concurrent dismay. It's cheating really and gives folks time to garner their complaints without effort.

troll food, as it were. Made it easy to dis as that seemed the mission of the day... Mass Snowball Effect.

[Wayning_Star]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

^ I hate that picture.

they expect it to say a thousand words, but really just distracts..its part of the game some play...

I've seen worse and better, but really just ignore them anymore. ((shrugg))

[billy the squid]

I think the game being half arsed is what will cause it to lose and why it garnered so much disdain. Would it ever have stood a chance of winning, pfffft. Unlikely, the endings are a running joke that people pokes fun at now rather than it being any angry criticism anymore.

The whole catalyst was contrived and shoe horned in, almost a deus ex mechiana, and it showed, regardless of whether people saw it before on youtube leaks, leaked scripts etc. Something like that you can see it for what it was a mile off. Playing the game or waiting until post release changed very little of the games inherrent problems in plot, cohesion and ropey character portrayal.

[Ticonderoga117]

Wayning_Star wrote...
but, it didn't for me, I didn't get the evil rush that these type posts emit? 95% of the third game is an impossible percentage? Really, it is...not possible.

What?

[Bourne Endeavor]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Omg can't I just make a Thread without people having a problem with it? I don't care if most of you have a Grudge against what BioWare create. This is NOT the thread for you. If I'm the only one who doesn't hate or dislike what happened in the Ending, then so be it. Shunning is highly unnecessary, and question the OP (Me) is unnecessary. Why should you care if at least one has a different outlook next to many others?

Welcome to a debate, love. You posted a controversial thread on a discussion forum with the intent to voice your opinion. Likewise, those of us replying have chosen to do the same. You would be naive to presume such a topic would not arouse strong opposing thoughts. Furthermore, you have not posted much of an argument to refute accusations of why the Catalyst was such a poorly executed concept. Doing so would help to reach a genuine debate. That said, no one is shunning you. We simply disagree.

If this thread is just a support the Catalyst, it was doomed to start. No offense but that is fact.

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 27 août 2012 - 02:50 .

[Wayning_Star]

billy the squid wrote...

I think the game being half arsed is what will cause it to lose and why it garnered so much disdain. Would it ever have stood a chance of winning, pfffft. Unlikely, the endings are a running joke that people pokes fun at now rather than it being any angry criticism anymore.

The whole catalyst was contrived and shoe horned in, almost a deus ex mechiana, and it showed, regardless of whether people saw it before on youtube leaks, leaked scripts etc. Something like that you can see it for what it was a mile off. Playing the game or waiting until post release changed very little of the games inherrent problems in plot, cohesion and ropey character portrayal.

Nah, just more negative hype is all, it's a pattern adopted by many to just detract. Most of these commentary require too much metagaming and basically distract from any actual play of the game as a game. It's actually appearing to be a minie game to see who can come up with some hole or dis that rates 'likes' on the given page.

Its an old form of entertainment I've witnessed over my time online,when Yahoo posts ran at 200 or more a second, everyone racing to dis the previous posts in hopes of eliminating the disgreed with statements. It''s really just bad/negative politics.

So what the Catalyst were contrived? Like video games in general are not 'contrived'. Face it, you just don't like the ending and let it rest at that. No controversy, no foul..no ad hominem attacks to dis rate what others are enjoying.

You're ... like.. bringing me doooowwwn maaaan..

not really, but the point of it is really starting to get 'lost' on readers.. me especially.

[Wayning_Star]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Omg can't I just make a Thread without people having a problem with it? I don't care if most of you have a Grudge against what BioWare create. This is NOT the thread for you. If I'm the only one who doesn't hate or dislike what happened in the Ending, then so be it. Shunning is highly unnecessary, and question the OP (Me) is unnecessary. Why should you care if at least one has a different outlook next to many others?

Welcome to a debate, love. You posted a controversial thread on a discussion forum with the intent to voice your opinion. Likewise, those of us replying have chosen to do the same. You would be naive to presume such a topic would not arouse strong opposing thoughts. Furthermore, you have not posted much of an argument to refute accusations of why the Catalyst was such a poorly executed concept. Doing so would help to reach a genuine debate. That said, no one is shunning you. We simply disagree.

If this thread is just a support the Catalyst, it was doomed to start. No offense but that is fact.

the OP never supported the catalyst in any way, just opined that it didn't bother them when witnessing the game execution of its form as a hologram/kid/what ever..sooo?!?

[Bourne Endeavor]

MegaSovereign wrote...

I severely doubt that Mass Effect has any real weight on why EA is considered to be the worst company in America.

I actually disagree. We gamers are some of the most vocal when it comes to Internet forum surfing. And when jaded, we have a tendency to respond with RAGE, be it eloquently written constructive criticism or mindless nonsense. ME3's endings sparked the biggest hostile response in gaming history and I do not doubt for a moment people flooded to that voting site to "hurt" EA.

Is it Mass Effect exclusively? Hardly, EA has drawn enormous hatred amongst the gaming circle well before BioWare. Although, I might argue ME3 broke the camel's back.

[o Ventus]

Wayning_Star wrote...

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Omg can't I just make a Thread without people having a problem with it? I don't care if most of you have a Grudge against what BioWare create. This is NOT the thread for you. If I'm the only one who doesn't hate or dislike what happened in the Ending, then so be it. Shunning is highly unnecessary, and question the OP (Me) is unnecessary. Why should you care if at least one has a different outlook next to many others?

Welcome to a debate, love. You posted a controversial thread on a discussion forum with the intent to voice your opinion. Likewise, those of us replying have chosen to do the same. You would be naive to presume such a topic would not arouse strong opposing thoughts. Furthermore, you have not posted much of an argument to refute accusations of why the Catalyst was such a poorly executed concept. Doing so would help to reach a genuine debate. That said, no one is shunning you. We simply disagree.

If this thread is just a support the Catalyst, it was doomed to start. No offense but that is fact.

the OP never supported the catalyst in any way, just opined that it didn't bother them when witnessing the game execution of its form as a hologram/kid/what ever..sooo?!?

The old title for this thread before the change was "Catalyst Support Thread".

[Necrotron]

It's good someone liked the catalyst. Personally, I felt his existance destroyed the plot of Mass Effect 1 (best game in the series), and makes the Reapers somewhat ridiculous in light of their previous statements (e.g. Soverign, Harbringer).  The worst part is the entire construction of the scene makes less and less sense the more I delve into the lore of the series, but alas, it is.

The starchild pretty much ruins the series for me, and generally, I'm pretty forgiving of stories and rarely let things break my suspension of disbelief.

But whether or not an individual likes something is always up to interpretation and how that particular element resonates with them individually, so nothing wrong with liking him.  I just disagree, of course.

Modifié par Bathaius, 27 août 2012 - 03:18 .

[billy the squid]

Wayning_Star wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

I think the game being half arsed is what will cause it to lose and why it garnered so much disdain. Would it ever have stood a chance of winning, pfffft. Unlikely, the endings are a running joke that people pokes fun at now rather than it being any angry criticism anymore.

The whole catalyst was contrived and shoe horned in, almost a deus ex mechiana, and it showed, regardless of whether people saw it before on youtube leaks, leaked scripts etc. Something like that you can see it for what it was a mile off. Playing the game or waiting until post release changed very little of the games inherrent problems in plot, cohesion and ropey character portrayal.

Nah, just more negative hype is all, it's a pattern adopted by many to just detract. Most of these commentary require too much metagaming and basically distract from any actual play of the game as a game. It's actually appearing to be a minie game to see who can come up with some hole or dis that rates 'likes' on the given page.

Its an old form of entertainment I've witnessed over my time online,when Yahoo posts ran at 200 or more a second, everyone racing to dis the previous posts in hopes of eliminating the disgreed with statements. It''s really just bad/negative politics.

So what the Catalyst were contrived? Like video games in general are not 'contrived'. Face it, you just don't like the ending and let it rest at that. No controversy, no foul..no ad hominem attacks to dis rate what others are enjoying.

You're ... like.. bringing me doooowwwn maaaan..

not really, but the point of it is really starting to get 'lost' on readers.. me especially.

Face it you do like the game and let it rest at that. Endings are the least of the games problems really, it was fairly mediocre in general. I didn't engage in the mindless bickering between the two parties, it's beneath me and not even entertaining anymore sadly. Which is actually my only interest in these threads, seeing who is going to get uptight and then winding them up some more, when I get a bit bored.

It's contrived considering the first 2 games and a large portion of the final one had nothing to do with it until it pops in at the final third of the game, nor does it make any sense in conjunction with reapers or the first game. So because most plotlines are contrived, it makes it okay that a game which prided itself on character and story is and didn't do a great job of delivering either?

You liked it great, you think it's good, okay. I beg to differ however, that's all that needs to be said on it really especially considering the game of the year nonesense. Which is going to be mirrored across the net. So it's unlikely to win regardless of whether the dislike is termed "hate" or not.

Modifié par billy the squid, 27 août 2012 - 03:31 .