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Engineer Bonus: Defense Matrix or Proximity Mine


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I'm having trouble pickin my bonus ability for my SP Engineer. I've narrowed it down to Defense Matrix or Proximity Mine and wanted to get the community opinion - thanks!

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KZ_Panda

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Defense Matrix all the way. Proximity mine is very situational. The +25% power dmg +15% damage block +100% emergency shield recharge is totally worth the +30% cd penalty.

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You don't really need an active power competing for cooldown.

Defensive Matrix wouldn't be a bad choice. Or you could go Energy Drain if you wanted something in between.

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As an Engineer, all you really need are your own Sabotage, Overload, and Incinerate. Everything else is just a bonus.

Proximity Mine does not really get good until rank 5 when you can choose the +25% damage from all sources evolution.

Defense Matrix is good since it starts with a 70% (base) shield recharge on purge. It still requires rank 5 before it really helps the Engineer with its +25% tech damage boost.

I recommend Defense Matrix over Proximity Mine. Energy Drain is also good until start spending points into Overload, then it becomes redundant.

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Engineer already has so many skills why pick another that you have to wait for cooldown or slows down your cooldown. Pick an ammo type IMO. It's always on and doesn't effect your cooldown with yet another power.

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Doesn't Incinerate also work as a debuff?

Inferno Grenade is a great unconventional power if you're looking for something different. It panics enemies and primes/detonates them for fire explosion. Plus, it's a great CC'er.

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Yakko77 wrote...

Engineer already has so many skills why pick another that you have to wait for cooldown or slows down your cooldown. Pick an ammo type IMO. It's always on and doesn't effect your cooldown with yet another power.

The only two ammo types you can take as a bonus power are AP Ammo and Warp Ammo. Both are unecessary and practically useless on the Engineer, AP Ammo especially.

AP Ammo's best feature, the ability to penetrate cover, is already covered by weapon mods. And you do not need the extra damage to armor since you can use Sabotage (with added Tech Vulnerability evolution) > Incinerate. Or even add Cryo Blast for Armor weakening.

And Warp Ammo is also rather weak. It provides armor damage and armor weaking as well, something the Engineer already has (see above). It also provides extra damage to targets lifted by biotics, so that requires Liara and/or Javik, but you are better off with Garrus (Overload and Concussive Shot), EDI (Overload and Incinerate), and Ashley (Disruptor Ammo and Concussive Shot).

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known_hero wrote...

Doesn't Incinerate also work as a debuff?

Inferno Grenade is a great unconventional power if you're looking for something different. It panics enemies and primes/detonates them for fire explosion. Plus, it's a great CC'er.


Inferno Grenade could be interesting, but you only have a limited number. Incinerate on its own is actually terrible. It needs to be paired with Overload or Sabotage for tech bursts to increase the damage.

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RedCaesar97 wrote...

known_hero wrote...

Doesn't Incinerate also work as a debuff?

Inferno Grenade is a great unconventional power if you're looking for something different. It panics enemies and primes/detonates them for fire explosion. Plus, it's a great CC'er.


Inferno Grenade could be interesting, but you only have a limited number. Incinerate on its own is actually terrible. It needs to be paired with Overload or Sabotage for tech bursts to increase the damage.


Inferno Grenade was actually my third choice . . . Defense Matrix seems to be in the lead. I will be importing a level 30 Shep so I can dump points into it from the get-go

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RedCaesar97 wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

Engineer already has so many skills why pick another that you have to wait for cooldown or slows down your cooldown. Pick an ammo type IMO. It's always on and doesn't effect your cooldown with yet another power.

The only two ammo types you can take as a bonus power are AP Ammo and Warp Ammo. Both are unecessary and practically useless on the Engineer, AP Ammo especially.

AP Ammo's best feature, the ability to penetrate cover, is already covered by weapon mods. And you do not need the extra damage to armor since you can use Sabotage (with added Tech Vulnerability evolution) > Incinerate. Or even add Cryo Blast for Armor weakening.

And Warp Ammo is also rather weak. It provides armor damage and armor weaking as well, something the Engineer already has (see above). It also provides extra damage to targets lifted by biotics, so that requires Liara and/or Javik, but you are better off with Garrus (Overload and Concussive Shot), EDI (Overload and Incinerate), and Ashley (Disruptor Ammo and Concussive Shot).


Engineers already has a skill/power to deal with practically every threat.  No need for another.  Might as well make your bullets more effective for that few seconds while you wait for cooldown.

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Yakko77 wrote...

Engineers already has a skill/power to deal with practically every threat.  No need for another.  Might as well make your bullets more effective for that few seconds while you wait for cooldown.



An Ammo power is legit, especially warp ammo with higher dmg bonus than AP ammo... makes taking down a banshee just a bit faster.

I would suggest using a slower but hard-hitting weapon though, since you don't have the meat to squeeze 10 or 20 rounds into an enemy. 

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I went with Defense Matrix for a little while, then switched to Inferno Nades. Fire Explosions everywhere.

If you don't use a squadmates ammo power, I'd suggest taking Warp Ammo.

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I agree with what everyone is saying -- skip the mine. Avoid anything that gets in the way of sabotage/incinerate combo. Getting 100% tech damage increase along w/ every damage bonus incinerate has basically dominates brutes/banshees.

I went with defense matrix. The damage reduction, quick shield regen when used, and increase in tech damage was fantastic.