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[Steppenwolf]

I know a lot of people aren't fond of the redesign of the elves, darkspawn and Kossith. If you were to redesign them again what you you like to see? What would you use as inspiration or a base for the designs?
I'm personally fine with the Kossith redesign, but I think the elves should be less... weird looking and the Darkspawn should be more gruesome and less lipless apeman.
I always really liked the way the Darkspawn looked in the Blur trailers. They look ferocious and violent. If they were to take those designs but add the slightly rotted look the Hurlocks had in Origins I think the Darkspawn would be perfect.
As for the elves, I'm very much in favor of a more traditional elf design. The elves in DA2 aren't at all elf-like aside from the pointy ears. I like the various interpretations of elves found in Magic: The Gathering. If I could take the lithe and majestic frames of the elves in the Lorwyn series and add the faces and severity of the elves from the Zendikar series. Here's some pics to make it clear.

Lorwyn Elves-



Zendikar Elves-




What would everyone else like to see?

Modifié par BasilKarlo, 27 août 2012 - 04:32 .

[Chaos Lord Malek]

They should rather use the elves from Onslaught block (those mutated guys)

[Steppenwolf]

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

They should rather use the elves from Onslaught block (those mutated guys)

Ehhh...
I could see this-


Maybe this-


But these? I don't know...

[Jademoon121]

 I like the Lorwyn Elves, very sylvan and alien. Warhammer Elves are interesting to look at as well, and the Eldar in 40k.
Inhuman and deadly, but no less beautiful.

Modifié par Jademoon121, 27 août 2012 - 06:22 .

[Chiramu]

Copyright infringement.

Bioware's character designs are good, but the main characters need to have unique body types compared to the NPCs. It doesn't look good when your main characters look like a nobody character :<.

Best designed character from Dragon Age has been Meredith, because she actually had a unique walk.

[MichaelStuart]

Other than changing there cloths and armour, I wouldn't change anything about the races.

[Patchwork]

While googling elf images for this post I realised how anime DA2 elves were; Large heads, long limbs, big eyes. Which is possibly why they never seemed right. This is probably old news for everyone else but I've only just made the connection. I might have to re-think my Just Fix the Proportions & It'll Be Fine stance.

Modifié par Ser Bard, 27 août 2012 - 11:57 .

[coles4971]

magic the gathering <33333

[Chaos Lord Malek]

Yes, i am of course talking about Dalish elves. They are treehuging worshipers, and should has some completely unique look from the usual city elves, who lives under human rule. The elves from cities should be more miserable, pitiful ... like denizens of Sigil from planescape setting.

The ones from Shadowmoor looks great as well, but they have horns (looks like Draenei), and would be too similar to Qunari.

Also Glissa looks good (before Phyrexian corruption)

Modifié par Chaos Lord Malek, 27 août 2012 - 01:38 .

[nightscrawl]

Ser Bard wrote...

While googling elf images for this post I realised how anime DA2 elves were...

Heh... you haven't seen anime elves until you've seen WoW blood elves.

[EricHVela]

Creating a species isn't just simply copying something someone else developed.

I would not use the artwork of anyone else as inspiration. While I like a lot of character art of varying styles, I don't think I can focus on any specific artist to inspire (or as it actually seems ITT, to copy).

I'd start with music and work forward from there. That sparks my imagination the most. I hear music, and I see something in my mind. It works best for me when there are no words or when there are words that I do not understand. (It is also a reason I tend to not watch music videos. Soundtracks separate from their action also often mean something different to me.)

I say: Don't start with something visual that someone else already did. Start with an idea. Take it through each step of evolution to include how they developed evolutionary physical features, modern personalities from their ancestry, current motives as a species and tactics suited to their environment.

Also, I like it when different people work on different creatures (including humanoid creatures).

TL;DR - Don't rely on existing, completed work for your inspiration. Perform your own Darwinism to create your specific species.

Modifié par ReggarBlane, 27 août 2012 - 02:03 .

[Steppenwolf]

That's all well and good, but when talking about things like elves people already have an idea of how they should look. If some IP came along with elves that looked more like goblins or something it wouldn't jive at all with their expectations and they most likely wouldn't like it. That's part of why the elves in DA2, with their giant eyes and strange noses, were received so poorly. Features like those aren't generally associated with elves so they just looked off.

[EricHVela]

I was talking generally since the topic title was non-specific with races/creatures.

Then again: Santa's and Keebler Elves. LotR elves. Elves from the second Dragon Age. Elves from Dragon Age: Origins. Dark and Blood Elves from Warcraft. Images of elves all over the Internet.

Seems that people have different ideas what elves look like. Elf is a word. In a different world it can easily mean something slightly different to something radically different.

Make your own. Don't just sit on an existing idea. Find the reasons for your elves to be what they are and not just copy someone else's work.

[riccaborto]

Don't have a specific opinion on Characters' design...

but I'd like to see a darker atmosphere in the next installment, something like Underworld and landscapes similar to Reign of Fire movie

[varteral6162]

Neverwinter Nights 2

[JohnCena94]

For the elves and darkspawn I would use dragon age origins.

[Renmiri1]

Those tree guys on Guild Wars 2 are really cool! Sylvari can be hot or cute

[EpicBoot2daFace]

More color. Blues and yellows. More fantasy, less british accents. Strong colors like this in an ancient setting would be very interesting to my eyes.

I want more color in games. Every since the beginning of this generation color has been taken away and everything is muted or desaturated. It's boring.

[Plaintiff]

I wouldn't put elves in my fantasy game to begin with. They're ridiculously overplayed.

The vast majority of the pictures people have posted in here have the exact same core deisgn elements that the DA2 elves have, right down to the giant eyes and the bridge between the nose and forehead, so I don't see what people are complaining about.

I thought the fact that the DA2 elves looked "too alien" was the major complaint, but most of these are about as far removed from "human" as you can get.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 01 septembre 2012 - 04:04 .

[TEWR]

While I wouldn't use anything as inspiration to redesign DA's Elves as I like DAII's design, I would use...

coles4971 wrote...

magic the gathering <33333

and maybe even some other card games, as well as DAII's style -- even when seen in DAO -- as inspiration for my own visualization of Elves. Maybe even other video game depictions

It wouldn't be a mishmash of all these racial designs. That'd more then likely turn out to be horrific. But I would try and examine each design carefully and see what I could possibly take from it to give my own version of Elves a unique appearance. It'd draw inspiration from various works, but would not be a copy of anyone's.

However, I'd also want them to have a distinct culture and wardrobe that is visually apparent and not just have the culture be nonexistent outside of cutscenes or lame copypasta of armor seen elsewhere.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 01 septembre 2012 - 04:42 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Plaintiff wrote...

I wouldn't put elves in my fantasy game to begin with. They're ridiculously overplayed.

The vast majority of the pictures people have posted in here have the exact same core deisgn elements that the DA2 elves have, right down to the giant eyes and the bridge between the nose and forehead, so I don't see what people are complaining about.

I thought the fact that the DA2 elves looked "too alien" was the major complaint, but most of these are about as far removed from "human" as you can get.

They just look stupid.

[Plaintiff]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I wouldn't put elves in my fantasy game to begin with. They're ridiculously overplayed.

The vast majority of the pictures people have posted in here have the exact same core deisgn elements that the DA2 elves have, right down to the giant eyes and the bridge between the nose and forehead, so I don't see what people are complaining about.

I thought the fact that the DA2 elves looked "too alien" was the major complaint, but most of these are about as far removed from "human" as you can get.

They just look stupid.

Because antennae and waists I could wrap a single hand around are less stupid?

This is the only female elf in the entire thread whose body could feasibly support the weight of her own head. That one up the top has clearly already broken her spine. It's a good thing her legs are able to move independently and drag her to a healer, limp torso flopping back and forth all the way, like a rag doll.

Oh, how the peasants will stare.

And how does sex work? Those muscular man-elves must have to take extra care not to snap the willowy womenfolk clean in half with an overly passionate embrace.

It's no wonder the species is going extinct in almost all of its iterations.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 01 septembre 2012 - 04:38 .

[Renmiri1]

Wait what ? Sylvari women are not waifs!

Modifié par Renmiri1, 01 septembre 2012 - 04:53 .