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[Sanunes]

I am not a big fan of taking established game franchises and making them into a MMO for that stagnates anything new for the single player aspect of the game, its best with something completely new and original so they can take the game in any direction they want. It was part of the problem I had with The Old Republic, I played it for two or three months when it first came out, but then I got tired of paying $15 a month for what felt like a single player game. Now that its pay to play I am going to go back and see what its like, but now I feel like I am going to be stuck with microtransactions to enjoy the game.

Also if you look there is a lot of backlash against even including multiplayer into Mass Effect 3 and it would be a lot worse if they lock the game into a MMO. Personally I would be a lot more interested if BioWare is going to make a completely new IP into a MMO then taking one of their established ones.

[Archangel6902]

WoW only became Hugely Successful because it had an established Lore which players came to know and love in the Single Player games. For a new MMO to really have a chance at being a great game (notice I said "chance" there is no guarantee) but to even have a chance, it has to whet the players appetites with a solid Single player treatment.

This idea isn't about making money it's about making a FULLY REALIZED version of the world we've come to know and love in the Mass Effect Universe.

If and ONLY if the developers can do that, while still keeping the same feel of the game we've all come to enjoy and expect, then and only then will it succeed.

The Mass Effect Universe is perfect for an MMO treatment. I don't know about anyone else but the whole time I enjoyed playing through the Trilogy I kept saying to myself. "If only I could explore those vistas in the background of each area" To NOT be confined to small sections of the planets etc.

[Archangel6902]

At the end of the day I realize that you can't please everyone. You can give most people what they claim they want but there will still be dissenters amongst the masses. It's a fact of life. However all Nay saying aside if Bio takes careful feedback from the community as well as not fall into the tired troupes of other MMo's then it can truly make a real game changer in the form of a ME MMO.

I'll be the first to condemn them if they go the route that some here have suggested, by simply making a WoW-like game and slapping a new skin on it and trying to make a few quick bucks.

[Archangel6902]

When you think of Mass Effect MMO don't think, omg another supposed WoW Killer, great. My IP just went to hell.

No instead think.
More weapons!
Bigger planets!
More missions!
More areas to explore!
Playing as your favorite race!
Not being tied to a strict storyline, being able to play how you want!
Forge your own path, to be a legendary paragon, or burn all those who stand in your way to become the next scourge of the galaxy!

[superg30]

arial wrote...

I would give it a try. you make it sound sorta like how SWG (Star Wars Galaxies) used to be.... that was one underrated MMO...

F**k ya it was, if you want look up ProjectSWG, it's an NGE emu thats alomst ready for launch, unless you like the Pre-CU SWG, then SWGEMU is for you

[IntoTheDarkness]

Considering how MP alone streamlined ME to a console-standard shooter....

[Genuine UK]

sorry guys a mass effect mmo is such a bad idea i think it would take to much from the game

saying that i do play SWTOR at the moment and im wateing for the Elders Scrolls mmo 

Modifié par Genuine_666, 11 décembre 2012 - 10:36 .

[Islandrockzor]

Only if it kept the playstyle we know and love from the existing games. The typical mmo with auto-attacks and actionbar with flash icons, NO. That actionbar in itself is immersionbreaking.

As an mmo with something like the current ME UI? Possibly.


But seriously. If ME became a MMO that game would have to redefine the genre. The old definition is best left for the games of the past.

[Archangel6902]

Islandrockzor wrote...

Only if it kept the playstyle we know and love from the existing games. The typical mmo with auto-attacks and actionbar with flash icons, NO. That actionbar in itself is immersionbreaking.

As an mmo with something like the current ME UI? Possibly.


But seriously. If ME became a MMO that game would have to redefine the genre. The old definition is best left for the games of the past.

YES!! This is the kind of open  minded thinking I'm talking about here!
In my envisionment for the ME MMO the core gameplay would stay much the same.
I would imagine it going back twards more of a ME1 style where there was a bit more mod management involved.
The players actually have stats again that help with the various gameplay styles, eg more Strength = more melee damage. Higher agility, makes manuvering your character easier, ducking, dodging etc.
All the stats can be augmented by cybernetics and or Biotics.
Give  the players an actual inventory UI screen to show what equipment you have or have access to, or even better,
give each player a program that loads up an inventory UI from thier omni tool!

Moving on to another subject. Possible classes. Well heck, just look at all the classes they already have for the ME3 Multiplayer campaign. Lods of neat ideas floating around there.

When thinking about a Mass Effect MMO think about these words directly from the mouths of the men who call the shots.


Greg Zeschuk and Ray Muzyka:"When you deliver a game, and you deliver it for a player, you have to
capture what they think is the possibility space,". "You
need to let them do everything they think they should do, and you can't
block them from doing anything they think they should be able to do. You
have to nail all the features and content that should be in that
possibility space."

Here is the link to that article.
http://massively.joy...ass-effect-mmo/

[Archangel6902]

Time will tell if these words fall on deaf ears.

Modifié par Archangel6902, 12 décembre 2012 - 12:14 .

[AlexMBrennan]

You might want to have a look at Planetside 2 (which is nominally free). It's an interesting experiment; however, it has a ton of the usual problems - it's pure PVP, and it's extremely hostile towards new players (don't bother getting a tank as tanks of experienced players are faster, tougher and better armed... this is arguably because the developers got greedy with microtransactions - you can unlock all these things for real cash right now if you don't feel like playing a sitting duck for a few months).

I'm not sure if you could make it PVE without the old problem of having to create endless content (can't have people unsubscribing after "beating" the game...), which would inevitably lead to cut-and-paste grinding quests... much like the current MP gameplay.

So rather than bemoan the idea, why not just for arguments sake tell them the ideas we WOULD like to see if they take the franchise in the MMO direction.

Because there's no point. I will not buy any Bioware MMORPG because I firmly believe that it is impossible to make a fun MMORPG due to the skewed incentives: I want a fun game whereas the developers just want to keep me from unsubscribing; as a result, they'll throw all psychological tricks at me to keep me playing instead of making a fun (but finite) game.

You also misunderstand my intent by labelling this as "destructive criticism". I very much enjoyed the games Bioware has made in the past, but I don't like their latest games (DA2, ME3, SWTOR) which are targeting the more mainstream crowd. *cough* CoD *cough*

I would like them to go back to making games I enjoy. I am telling them *now* that I would not buy any MMO *if* they decided to make one so that the powers-that-be can make an informed decision.

If they make an MMO anyway, fine. That's their choice.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 12 décembre 2012 - 12:25 .

[Archangel6902]

AlexMBrennan wrote...
 I very much enjoyed the games Bioware has made in the past, but I don't like their latest games (DA2, ME3, SWTOR) which are targeting the more mainstream crowd. *cough* CoD *cough*

Well despite what some people including yourself may think, Mass Effect 3 was a great game.
It was only marred by the last 30 minutes or so of gameplay when Shepard stormed the Catalyst.

If You Mr AlexMBrennan read all of my posts about this subject, and if Bioware also develops a game with some of those ideas in mind, where the Story is solid, the gameplay is solid, the experience feels right and not contrived.
You feel a sense of accomplishment like you did in the single player game, however your able to share that with other players,friends, etc.
If all that is true what would it matter if it's an MMO, or not ?
I'm proposing as I've stated several times, something that goes outside the box, something different than the normal thinking behind all other mmo's out there.
Don't give us the proverbial peice of cheese, dangling in front of us while we like hungry hampsters run on the wheel, all the while grinding to end game where we hope to have a taste of what we so hungrily seek.
Instead reward exploration, ambition, and just the honest to goodness players who want to have a good time playing an engrossing game with a deep and rich storyline, in a beloved universe.

[Mezinger]

Let's hope Bioware/EA is working on a competitor to Bungie's/Activision's Destiny!

I think ME3's MP is pretty good, much better than I expected. If they could spin it out into something Destiny-ish set in the ME universe that would be very cool.

[Jonathan Sud]

Yeah, the way Destiny was explained made me think a similar game would be perfect for ME.

[villevalo]

I think it's too soon to properly comment on Destiny but it, so far, has a more social MMO feel to it rather than a full blown MMO.

I'd rather not have the next ME as MMO, but it could be something to publish as a side along, or something that fills in the gaps if the next ME is set in a period after 4.

[Han Shot First]

No.

[hau101]

No. God, no.

MMO's are a ******-poor way to tell a story. Look at WoW and Guild Wars 2, the former having a rich lore to go by and the latter advertising heavily on its "personal" story (although it's not terrible, just not great). An ME MMO might just end up being like Planetside (whole lot of running around doing nothing) or Hawken (all action, no story).

To put in the intense amounts of dialogue, not to mention choice/decision trees and romance options into a vast mmo world will require a ludicrous amount of work I imagine. And any mmo will have the focus turning into some sort of grind to generate revenue. ME is about the story, not just gun-toting combat (planetside, battlefield 3, etc). Having a watered diluted story in an mmo will just cheapen the franchise.

Just stick with multiplayer like with ME3

Modifié par hau101, 18 février 2013 - 10:22 .