Well... Arrival is gone from my HD so the series ends with Shepard defeating the reapers final method for getting into the galaxy in ME2 by blowing up the Collector base.
ME2 was the most fun. ME1 had the best plot.
ME3 never happens. (la la la la la la la la la la la)
Did ME3 ruin the trilogy for you?
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#177
Posté 27 août 2012 - 09:00
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robertm2 wrote...
i think most people would rather have them stand in one place but actually be able to talk to them more than once than have them moving around but only being able to listen to them talk but not interact with them.
I am not. Barely existing banter was the reason that made Mass Effec 2 characters to puppets not "alife". And this in a "character driven" game. Hell, even the first game had at least the elevator banter and some comments in main and sidequests.
Of course, the best way possible is to have both like in the first Dragon Age game. Banter in the game and talking to them in the camp.
#178
Posté 27 août 2012 - 09:07
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(Sorry for my english) ME 3 made me sad, because when I think of what ME3 could be, than it makes me sad when I play it and it is what it is. Don't get me wrong, I think that ME3 have some awesome moments but the way it ends cast a shadow for the whole series for me (not because ending is sad - that's irrelevent). I read koobismo's Marauder Shields comic, and it is epic, it is love labour, the characters are getting a badass last stances and all that stuff, it feels like someone who wrote it loves the series. ME3 had the potential to be mind blowing. And this wasted potential makes me sad. Two previous parts were amazing imo, and made me dream about how epic will ME3 be. Answering your question: ME3 kind of crippled the series for me.
#180
Posté 27 août 2012 - 09:11
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thisPaultheoctopus wrote...
It kind of did, but i was able to look past all of that because of how epic i thought the endings were gonna be... Then i played the endings...
#181
Posté 27 août 2012 - 09:38
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I never completed a play through of me3 (for many of the reasons that the OP expressed), though I had 6 Sheps ready to be imported and about 6 more in various states of completeness in ME1 and ME2. me3 did damage my excitement for the series, but I have now been able to play the first two games again. However, I don't play them very often (haven't finished out either game in sometime), and my initial plans of getting the series ALSO on the PC, have changed. Can't really be bothered to rebuy the games for another system. I'll play the first two on the xbox from time to time, and call it good. To bad.....
#182
Posté 27 août 2012 - 09:40
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It didn't ruin it for me but it could be done better. It wasted it's potential in many aspects with autodialoque, badly photoshoped face, ignoring ME2 characters, lack of exploration, stupid fetch type quests about finding one book with super normandy scanner on a WHOLE PLANET... it has too many flaws and not much great moments...
#183
Posté 27 août 2012 - 09:41
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i kinda gave up on ME3 a while ago. I'll wait a few weeks to see the new DLC on you tube in all its glory. Kinda cant be arsed anymore. might buy if it makes the ending any better - but dont think it will so they are not gettin any more of my cash at the mo.
#184
Posté 27 août 2012 - 09:45
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Well due to a lack of Mass effect game mechanics, lack of depiction of my choices, and my darn Shepard saying out of Character lines almost every twenty minutes I do not consider this game to be a mass effect game but rather Activisions attempt at a mass effect game. So no it did not ruin the trilogy because there were only two mass effect games
#185
Posté 27 août 2012 - 11:34
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Yes, it really did ruin it for me. Why bother replaying the first two games when the third game is such a complete let down?
#186
Posté 27 août 2012 - 11:47
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What trilogy? ME3 is the BEST PLACE to start!
#188
Posté 28 août 2012 - 12:23
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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Well... Arrival is gone from my HD so the series ends with Shepard defeating the reapers final method for getting into the galaxy in ME2 by blowing up the Collector base.
ME2 was the most fun. ME1 had the best plot.
ME3 never happens. (la la la la la la la la la la la)
#189
Posté 28 août 2012 - 12:42
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Yes, it ruined the whole damnable series for me.
ME3 was so utterly depressing - and, even more, it made most of ME2 and parts of ME1 completely pointless (example: "how you handled the Rachni queen will have HUGE implications!!" NOT!) - that I have not yet been able to bring myself to touch any of the ME games again. I didn't even finish the last game after viewing the endings on youtube and think the extended cut just further explained the suck factor. I made it to the scene right before the endgame starts, saved it and quit. I'm not sure I'll ever touch them again, despite how much I loved the first two games.
Some friends and I started an ME RPG that picks up at the beginning of ME2 with a dead Shepard, who gets replaced by a few "special" people. That's proving more fun than ME3. The only problem is that I want to see certain parts, since the game will mirror some of what happened in ME2, but I still refuse to touch the game. So a friend of mine played on my account...it made me miss playing the game more.
The worst part is that, after seeing how BioWare screwed the pooch with ME3, now I will refuse to buy DA3 when it comes out. No doubt they'll have the dragons prove to be good and only destroying the world so the evil humans won't do it to themselves in the future. Or you'll have to have sex with a dragon to make a hybrid baby or some other such BS that allows Casey Hudson or some other nimrod to tell us how awesome and artistic it is, and how stupid we are if we don't kiss their backsides for taking our money and wasting our time. No thanks.
ME3 was so utterly depressing - and, even more, it made most of ME2 and parts of ME1 completely pointless (example: "how you handled the Rachni queen will have HUGE implications!!" NOT!) - that I have not yet been able to bring myself to touch any of the ME games again. I didn't even finish the last game after viewing the endings on youtube and think the extended cut just further explained the suck factor. I made it to the scene right before the endgame starts, saved it and quit. I'm not sure I'll ever touch them again, despite how much I loved the first two games.
Some friends and I started an ME RPG that picks up at the beginning of ME2 with a dead Shepard, who gets replaced by a few "special" people. That's proving more fun than ME3. The only problem is that I want to see certain parts, since the game will mirror some of what happened in ME2, but I still refuse to touch the game. So a friend of mine played on my account...it made me miss playing the game more.
The worst part is that, after seeing how BioWare screwed the pooch with ME3, now I will refuse to buy DA3 when it comes out. No doubt they'll have the dragons prove to be good and only destroying the world so the evil humans won't do it to themselves in the future. Or you'll have to have sex with a dragon to make a hybrid baby or some other such BS that allows Casey Hudson or some other nimrod to tell us how awesome and artistic it is, and how stupid we are if we don't kiss their backsides for taking our money and wasting our time. No thanks.
#191
Posté 28 août 2012 - 12:51
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The game itself; no. I loved the game up until the ending... which ruined the entire ME series.
#192
Posté 28 août 2012 - 12:56
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In a way, yes. Looking back, one of the aspects of the endings of ME1 and ME2 was anticipation. It was brilliantly set up for an all out, brilliant game the likes of which put all other games to shame.
Instead, it felt like.... do you remember in school when you had to work on a project. Like, a science fair project where you wanted to show the germnation of cross/species plants and their abilities to surviveseperate environments.... but you waited to the last second and the morning before, you just cut the top of one of the 8th grader's racing cones ancall it a volcanoe, tape some brow paper on it, fill it with baking soda and call it a volacano......that's ME3. Expectations were high, and at best, it was "eh". And that's where the disappointment comes in. You know they could do better, but it's not very good.
Because there is no anticipation while playing 1 or 2, they have to stand on their own. And they do. They really are brilliant. But your choices don't really matter in the long run, you can't look forward to a lot of resolution because they were all abandoned, and you're headed towards the worst ending in gaming history. Aside from that, they were great gams.
Instead, it felt like.... do you remember in school when you had to work on a project. Like, a science fair project where you wanted to show the germnation of cross/species plants and their abilities to surviveseperate environments.... but you waited to the last second and the morning before, you just cut the top of one of the 8th grader's racing cones ancall it a volcanoe, tape some brow paper on it, fill it with baking soda and call it a volacano......that's ME3. Expectations were high, and at best, it was "eh". And that's where the disappointment comes in. You know they could do better, but it's not very good.
Because there is no anticipation while playing 1 or 2, they have to stand on their own. And they do. They really are brilliant. But your choices don't really matter in the long run, you can't look forward to a lot of resolution because they were all abandoned, and you're headed towards the worst ending in gaming history. Aside from that, they were great gams.
#193
Posté 28 août 2012 - 12:58
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Yes it did. It ruined the games of the past and will only get progressively worse in the future, given the direction they're going. Don't get me wrong, the past 2 games were excellent, but the whole Catalyst bull**** really cheapens the Reapers. That once amazing and scary conversation with Sovereign has lost a lot of it's weight.
#194
Posté 28 août 2012 - 01:02
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If the Mass Effect series wasn't a trilogy, then my answer would be "No", but since it is, my answer is "Yes".
#195
Posté 28 août 2012 - 01:02
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This^ The ending is the main reason why, however there were alot of other things that just killed its re-play value. The ME2 LI and squatmates just cast aside, the lack of places to see and explore (we only got the Citidel), the lack of dialogue choices/ options, the auto dialogue, choices not mattering, the dialogue conversations that you just heard but were unable to participate in etc.mnomaha wrote...
Yes, it really did ruin it for me. Why bother replaying the first two games when the third game is such a complete let down?
#196
Posté 28 août 2012 - 01:06
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Yes, it was a mediocre game with awful writing. It's not exactly an amazing trilogy if the ending (the entire third part of the trilogy) is bad.
I played through ME 1 and 2 seven or so times each, just to see the affects in ME 3. I've played ME 3 through once and a half, then got bored. The changes are miniscule (Shepard's background missions), nonexistent (the Collector Base) or just horrifically stupid (Rachni). No matter what the gameplay is very linear and gets dull quick. There are almost no sidequests, and the writing is just appalling: the Crucible existing out of nowhere and the plan to build it, Cerberus having unlimited resources, Udina and Legion and other characters suddenly acting out-of-place and out-of-character, the ending, etc. It's just a big disappointment.
I can still play through Mass Effect 1 and 2, because they're good games. The promise of consequences was wasted though, and the gameplay and writing was sacrificed for lazy shortcuts and dumbing the game down to appeal to a broader audience.
I played through ME 1 and 2 seven or so times each, just to see the affects in ME 3. I've played ME 3 through once and a half, then got bored. The changes are miniscule (Shepard's background missions), nonexistent (the Collector Base) or just horrifically stupid (Rachni). No matter what the gameplay is very linear and gets dull quick. There are almost no sidequests, and the writing is just appalling: the Crucible existing out of nowhere and the plan to build it, Cerberus having unlimited resources, Udina and Legion and other characters suddenly acting out-of-place and out-of-character, the ending, etc. It's just a big disappointment.
I can still play through Mass Effect 1 and 2, because they're good games. The promise of consequences was wasted though, and the gameplay and writing was sacrificed for lazy shortcuts and dumbing the game down to appeal to a broader audience.
#197
Posté 28 août 2012 - 01:22
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What you should know, EA ruins every game their name is stamped on. Ever since they went bankrupt, they had to turn to buying out shooter games in order to get out of debt and start making more money, then sail back on track to being the "Label Name." This is why you take notice to the option to buy packs in this game, Madden, Medal of Honor, and so on. EA only cares about money, which I'm sure BioWare planned more to this game, EA has the majority of the rights to make this a more profitting game, rather than letting BioWare take this game the way they wanted it.
#198
Posté 28 août 2012 - 01:40
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Just ruined the 3rd game for me but still do have a little difficutly playing the 2nd
#199
Posté 28 août 2012 - 01:53
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If I hated the endings maybe but since I don't absolutely not. ME 3 was an amazing end to an amazing journey IMO I see no missed opportunities.
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Posté 28 août 2012 - 01:54
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nevar00 wrote...
Yes, it was a mediocre game with awful writing. It's not exactly an amazing trilogy if the ending (the entire third part of the trilogy) is bad.
I played through ME 1 and 2 seven or so times each, just to see the affects in ME 3. I've played ME 3 through once and a half, then got bored. The changes are miniscule (Shepard's background missions), nonexistent (the Collector Base) or just horrifically stupid (Rachni). No matter what the gameplay is very linear and gets dull quick. There are almost no sidequests, and the writing is just appalling: the Crucible existing out of nowhere and the plan to build it, Cerberus having unlimited resources, Udina and Legion and other characters suddenly acting out-of-place and out-of-character, the ending, etc. It's just a big disappointment.
I can still play through Mass Effect 1 and 2, because they're good games. The promise of consequences was wasted though, and the gameplay and writing was sacrificed for lazy shortcuts and dumbing the game down to appeal to a broader audience.
You hit on another good point where you said the changes were miniscule. These minor changes amounted to a few swapped pieces of dialog quickly uttered and forgotten. This was the quickest and easiest way for the dev team to legitimately claim that choices affected things...because TECHNICALLY there was a change. But it was far too subtle in a lot of cases to notice.
Then the various panels at the 'cons and what not said that conversations were to be more 'natural' which was their hinting at the miniscule things that we'd never notice and that the paragon and renegade choices often were so similar sounding that they amounted to essentially the same response. (they also made the red and blue choices powerless in most cases as well too due to the whacked out rep system)
You also mentioned 'exploring' the citadel. I don't count having an elevator connect places as exploring. In ME1 you could literally walk to every place except citadel tower and the dock from any other place on the presidium. You could even do this in ME2 in Zakera ward (via stairs). It gave the place a feeling of being big....but in ME3 we get an elevator and load screens.
