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cascinova wrote...

Uncle Graves wrote...

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Sounds like a addiction to me. 
I mean , what is the point of the game, to play or unlock ****?  Personally I think people are missing the point, that playing is supposed to be fun.  Instead they turn it into this goal / reward scenerio, of buying / unlocking, and totally forget the gameplay aspect.  



Sounds like you don't know what you are talking about.

With all due respect to you and your personal opinion, but how I or others get their fun is none of your concern.

Seeing as this is the Bioware Social Forum however, it should be Bioware's concern.




Well my concern is that I actually like this system.  
Unlike most other shooters its adds a random factor to the game, which is a nice change compared to most other shoother / multiplayers that more or less all feature a tiered unlocking system.


and that is just the one I am hoping to get. ^_^ But as I said, i Know it's random and I will just keep enjoying the game using other characters / weapons till I get it.

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If you can't do a two person silver then you should have not gone to gold.

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Poetry avenger I was more talking about all the people on the forum that are so in love with bioware they don't see that even though the multiplayer is "free" they still had to pay for the game and should expect more then the crap we are getting. We all know we would never be playing still if the dlc's were not free. That was just a good business decision by bioware for their ****** mini store.

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Learn to play and you will find enjoyment. 99% of your complaints are due to lack of skilled play on your part, OP.

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death_for_sale wrote...

Learn to play and you will find enjoyment. 99% of your complaints are due to lack of skilled play on your part, OP.


Heh, okay.

Not everyone is Super MLG Pro at ME3. You probably represent less than 1% of players in the game.  The game is already dying. That's all that will be left, the try hards touting the size of their e-peen. 

I think many of the OP's concerns are legitimate.

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And the game: the balance changes are enough to make you choke -- its supposed to be a GAME, its supposed to ENTERTAIN, not aggravate and leave a customer feeling sick and tired of the product. You've made the game unfair, unbalanced for 4 average people ( not to mention those of us who USED to love bronzing alone...or playing 2 person silvers) to attempt to control UNLESS you are farming....and you wonder WHY people farm??? 


This makes me think you don't get it. The difficulty is meant to mirror the tension of the single player storyline.

The average team should not be able to complete platinum. It is supposed to be near impossible. Unsurvivable situations where entire platoons are wiped out.

Gold is supposed to be a legitimate challenge to complete it shouldn't be completed with regularity outside FBWGG.

Silver is supposed to have moments of intensity near the end but otherwise harmless.

Bronze is supposed to be harmless. I don't know how you're complaining about bronze, there have been next to no balance changes that have made that difficulty any harder, they've left it alone... On what basis are you making these claims? Or is this another baseless rant? Yes? I hope the door does hit you on the way out, we really don't need another of these threads.

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I have to agree with the OP. In another 3 weeks I probably only pick this game up for the operation weekends. Right now it is passing the time, but like the OP said, much of the fun has been sucked out of the game. The ridiculous AI behavior coupled with the glitches, more often lead to frustration than fun.

What the OP didn't mention was the players, they can be more frustrating than the AI. BW, if you read through this and intend on making a new MP only game, PLEASE include some kind of meaningful gate system to get into the higher difficulties. Like complete 5 extractions on every map of the previous level to open the gate to the next difficulty. I would rather not be able to find a PuG, then consistently be dropped into ones that are obviously doomed to fail.

Anyway, a lot of good points made in the OP.

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Sound like the OP needs a better Internet connection or new router. ME3 MP's netcode is very lag sensitive.

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cascinova wrote...

Well my concern is that I actually like this system.  
Unlike most other shooters its adds a random factor to the game, which is a nice change compared to most other shoother / multiplayers that more or less all feature a tiered unlocking system.


And that's where you and I and many other people differ: I don't like this system, just like other people don't like this system.
It adds a random factor to the game, one that I personally find highly distracting from the actual gameplay. Furthermore this system only promotes grief among players. Where in most shooters players are never locked out from content, since everyone may unlock it through progression, in this game it is not possible to just sit back, relax and try new setups because you have no consistent way of unlocking said content.

Now disregard the fact that we are having a civil discussion here, the impulsive animal part of my brain would still love to scream at you in anguish while tearing your face off because you have access to content that I am being excluded from.

Meanwhile, while I am complaining about this issue, someone else may come in and call me a ****** and may want to tear my face off because I have access to other content that someone else doesn't.


Argue all you want, the RNG-Store is not a fair system and it only spreads inequality and grief among players.

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Regret is a dull and rusted blade that covers me in scars that never fade.

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Uncle Graves wrote...

cascinova wrote...

Well my concern is that I actually like this system.  
Unlike most other shooters its adds a random factor to the game, which is a nice change compared to most other shoother / multiplayers that more or less all feature a tiered unlocking system.


And that's where you and I and many other people differ: I don't like this system, just like other people don't like this system.
It adds a random factor to the game, one that I personally find highly distracting from the actual gameplay. Furthermore this system only promotes grief among players. Where in most shooters players are never locked out from content, since everyone may unlock it through progression, in this game it is not possible to just sit back, relax and try new setups because you have no consistent way of unlocking said content.

Now disregard the fact that we are having a civil discussion here, the impulsive animal part of my brain would still love to scream at you in anguish while tearing your face off because you have access to content that I am being excluded from.

Meanwhile, while I am complaining about this issue, someone else may come in and call me a ****** and may want to tear my face off because I have access to other content that someone else doesn't.


Argue all you want, the RNG-Store is not a fair system and it only spreads inequality and grief among players.


You do have a consistent way to get the content. Buy packs in the store. If you are not pleased with what you are getting or cannot wait to earn it, buy it with real money.

Besides, from your manifest it looks like you are only missing 2 ultra rare AR's and a couple of gears. Are those AR's nice? Yes. Are they irreplaceable with Rares? No.

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Si7ent Sigh wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

Learn to play and you will find enjoyment. 99% of your complaints are due to lack of skilled play on your part, OP.


Heh, okay.

Not everyone is Super MLG Pro at ME3. You probably represent less than 1% of players in the game.  The game is already dying. That's all that will be left, the try hards touting the size of their e-peen. 

I think many of the OP's concerns are legitimate.


Yes, yes, just like Diablo 3 was going to kill the game. People who find this game too hard will go play Borderlands 2, where they will play with overpowered weapons until they get bored and either come back or move on to the next game.

The biggest problem most of us have is that every time a new game comes out, we have to listen to all the whining babies who tell us the game is dying or they are leaving for the new game.

If you are going to leave, LEAVE. Don't write a novel about how you ran out of ammo then died and think it is a glitch. Don't write about how you are upset that Infiltrators were nerfed when they still destroy things and the Geth Infiltrator is still the best class in the game. Don't whine about Phantoms when the addition of the bubble basically causes them to stand still for death. Don't complain about Turret shields when you didn't kill the Combat Engineer that is repairing it.

The OP's list is riddled with lack of knowledge of game mechanics and the fact that he is still able to apparently stumble through a special challenge mode (Plat) means they really need to make Plat harder. I'm personally glad he plays on Xbox, because that is one less person I have to carry through Plat on PC.

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It kinda sounds like the op wants and easy button. You are actually complaining about enemies strafing to avoid gunfire? Would you prefer they stand still until you kill them? Also, the phantom bubble is actually a nerf to the phantom. They do the exact same thing that they used to, only now you can clearly see when they are blocking your powers and can switch to gunfire to take them down.

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death_for_sale wrote...

You do have a consistent way to get the content. Buy packs in the store. If you are not pleased with what you are getting or cannot wait to earn it, buy it with real money.


Receiving something randomly is not consistent. And paying real money for that would be outright retarded IMO.

Besides, from your manifest it looks like you are only missing 2 ultra rare AR's and a couple of gears. Are those AR's nice? Yes. Are they irreplaceable with Rares? No.


See? In your opinion I shouldn't have reason to complain, and I do aknowledge the fact that I have a lot of content unlocked, but still I feel absolutely justified with my complaints.
My point stands, the RNG Store system is not fair but terribly flawed.

Modifié par Uncle Graves, 27 août 2012 - 02:29 .


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Although I find it annoying how there are so many "this game sucks I'm done" threads, I do somewhat agree with the OP.

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 27 août 2012 - 08:26 .


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If a smilinpig loses it's voice does it become 'disgruntled'?

I didn't read all the complaints but the ones about ammo are rather justified. When you still have gun and more importantly classes open and you get a constant stream of ammo and cards it gets annoying for sure. I used a psp the othe day and wonderfully got a 'human adept' card and also a 'human male adept' card in one pack which was my rare card.

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If you sit down at your friends house, and play a couple matches, and then go buy the game based on your experience playing it, you get home, and you play and play and play some more, til you know it and are actually good at it. THEN the company who makes the game changes it permanently, giving you no choice in the matter, ultimately changing the way you feel about the the game. This is the case with MASS EFFECT 3. There should be a label on the game when you buy it stating that "THE GAME YOUR BUYING NOW MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE SAME GAME AFTER WE KEEP TWEEKING IT SO PLEASE BUY AT YOUR OWN RISK"

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More pew pew less QQ.
How many more times must this be posted?

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death_for_sale wrote...

Learn to play and you will find enjoyment. 99% of your complaints are due to lack of skilled play on your part, OP.


Possibly one of the dumbest statements I have seen, skill has noting to do with glitches. How does skill help someone kill that invincible Hunter? How will skill help anyone retrieve that package that just fell through the floor? How does skill prevent disconnects? The list can go on. Learning to play around the cheap AI doesn't necessarily equal enjoyment if people keep running into stupid things their skill level has no bearing on.

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DHKany wrote...

More pew pew less QQ.
How many more times must this be posted?


Until the very last indoctrinated whiner has left

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R0binME wrote...

DHKany wrote...

More pew pew less QQ.
How many more times must this be posted?


Until the very last indoctrinated whiner has left


*sighs* we shall wait til the end of BSN then. 

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Bye bye op. I hope you enjoy your next game. If you ever want to come by and play a game for old time sake we'll be here.

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DHKany wrote...

R0binME wrote...

DHKany wrote...

More pew pew less QQ.
How many more times must this be posted?


Until the very last indoctrinated whiner has left


*sighs* we shall wait til the end of BSN then. 


I wouldn't hold my breath

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ya-love the game, and the challenge. Just wish the load times were not so fricken long and numerous.
Check for DCL content,
Connect to bio-ware/EA.. ...whatever.
Loading store
Loading map
exiting map
Exiting round
loading main screen
exiting main screen ....etc.... . etc..... and there are of course more.

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R0binME wrote...


I wouldn't hold my breath


we'd all be dead..