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[RZIBARA]

Shepard, Miranda, Ashley, Zaeed, Samara, Thane, Grunt ...

 

The list can keep going, but you get the point. Bioware screwed everyone who liked someone other than Garrus, Liara, and Tali over

[Silhouette55]

I feel like everyone bar Liara got screwed over royally.

[bfoore]

Urdnot Grunt, Kasumi, or Miri would have been more welcomed additions to my squad than Vega or EDI (her sex bot) 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Urdnot Grunt, Kasumi, or Miri would have been more welcomed additions to my squad than Vega or EDI (her sex bot) 

 

Grunt is a bland character that really wouldn't have added much. Kasumi would be even more senseless and useless than she already was in ME2. 

 

Miranda is really the only character that would have made sense to add. Problem is, she is viewed a bit as a chew toy by the developers. Granted, when everything was said and done, she's arguably the best LI for Male Shepard (and that's not favoritism but objective speaking), and she had a lot more character potential than was tapped into. I personally wanted her to be her darker, more ambiguous self who would be a voice of dissent among the ME3's mindless shilling of the alliance. Seeing her whoop Ashley's ass in a debate about the alliance vs. Cerberus was something I was especially looking forward too. 

 

Vega was arguably the best addition to the team in ME3. He had a lot of depth and was a generally decent character without being sanctimonious, self-righteous, or stupidly in love with the alliance. EDI was better when she wasn't trying to be a human and fall in love. She's not an organic. She's a synthetic, and she is fundamentally different from organics. They are both life, but they are not life as we understand and know it. And that was part of the crap BW threw in with Synthetics. It's one of the few things I'd actually say in favor of the Catalyst, with him being an actual alien synthetic entity on the level that they would realistically be at.

[bfoore]

Grunt is a bland character that really wouldn't have added much. Kasumi would be even more senseless and useless than she already was in ME2. 

 

Miranda is really the only character that would have made sense to add. Problem is, she is viewed a bit as a chew toy by the developers. Granted, when everything was said and done, she's arguably the best LI for Male Shepard (and that's not favoritism but objective speaking), and she had a lot more character potential than was tapped into. I personally wanted her to be her darker, more ambiguous self who would be a voice of dissent among the ME3's mindless shilling of the alliance. Seeing her whoop Ashley's ass in a debate about the alliance vs. Cerberus was something I was especially looking forward too. 

 

Vega was arguably the best addition to the team in ME3. He had a lot of depth and was a generally decent character without being sanctimonious, self-righteous, or stupidly in love with the alliance. EDI was better when she wasn't trying to be a human and fall in love. She's not an organic. She's a synthetic, and she is fundamentally different from organics. They are both life, but they are not life as we understand and know it. And that was part of the crap BW threw in with Synthetics. It's one of the few things I'd actually say in favor of the Catalyst, with him being an actual alien synthetic entity on the level that they would realistically be at.

I never said Vega wasn't a decent character. Hes a good guy but hes useless to me as a squad member and his skills are just a knock-off of Grunts. Kasumi is useless?? Her shadow strike is one of the deadliest attacks in Mass Effect 2, I've seen her stop Harbinger on Insanity with that thing.  

[Ribosome]

I never said Vega wasn't a decent character. Hes a good guy but hes useless to me as a squad member and his skills are just a knock-off of Grunts. Kasumi is useless?? Her shadow strike is one of the deadliest attacks in Mass Effect 2, I've seen her stop Harbinger on Insanity with that thing.  

 

Gameplay =/= story 

[bfoore]

Gameplay =/= story 

Oh! I see. Then I honestly don't have a complaint, they all brought something to the story at least in my opinion. I honestly thought we were talking about gameplay but still Miri or Grunt would have been better than EDI.

[rekn2]

Grunt is a bland character that really wouldn't have added much. Kasumi would be even more senseless and useless than she already was in ME2. 

 

Miranda is really the only character that would have made sense to add. Problem is, she is viewed a bit as a chew toy by the developers. Granted, when everything was said and done, she's arguably the best LI for Male Shepard (and that's not favoritism but objective speaking), and she had a lot more character potential than was tapped into. I personally wanted her to be her darker, more ambiguous self who would be a voice of dissent among the ME3's mindless shilling of the alliance. Seeing her whoop Ashley's ass in a debate about the alliance vs. Cerberus was something I was especially looking forward too. 

 

Vega was arguably the best addition to the team in ME3. He had a lot of depth and was a generally decent character without being sanctimonious, self-righteous, or stupidly in love with the alliance. EDI was better when she wasn't trying to be a human and fall in love. She's not an organic. She's a synthetic, and she is fundamentally different from organics. They are both life, but they are not life as we understand and know it. And that was part of the crap BW threw in with Synthetics. It's one of the few things I'd actually say in favor of the Catalyst, with him being an actual alien synthetic entity on the level that they would realistically be at.

 i was hoping for this too. in fact my only disagreement with your post is that i wanted a little more violence. when ash was protecting the traitor it wouldve been nice to have miranda shoot her. have the renegade interrupt but if you dont take paragon choice miranda does the job for you.

 

im glad they didnt make miranda grim dark.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I never said Vega wasn't a decent character. Hes a good guy but hes useless to me as a squad member and his skills are just a knock-off of Grunts. Kasumi is useless?? Her shadow strike is one of the deadliest attacks in Mass Effect 2, I've seen her stop Harbinger on Insanity with that thing.  

 

Kasumi is almost needless to the plot. You don't necessarily need a thief for a suicide mission. There's a little thing called story/gameplay separation. Her skills are unquestionably good, but they're beyond infiltration, which is questionable, she's not needed. She was a wasted character.

[Saake]

Kelly, when romanced, gets shafted big time after first meeting. Citadel DLC should've included her at least in that regard. Beyond romance not much to say but still would've been nice to learn her ultimate fate post ME3.

[the_last_krogan]

grunt 

he deserved at least a cutscene of him in london ripping the crab arm of a brute and smashing a banshee to death with it 

[zestalyn]

I wish Miranda had more to do in ME3 that didn't involve her father. I'm fine with her having an excuse to kill her father with the Sanctuary subplot. But when I first played ME3 I was a little bummed to find that when she first wanted to meet me at the Citadel, it was about her damn father and sister and I couldn't help but roll my eyes and think "not again".  Since she was so close to the Illusive Man, I was hoping things would get more climactic around her, but instead BW hand-waved that potential with her going "I can handle it/you've got a galaxy to save etc etc". Oh well, something better than nothing. 

[themikefest]

Miranda. Too bad she wasn't a squadmate especially with Cerberus being in the spotlight in ME3

 

Samantha. I only mention her because as a LI, she never got a scene on the Citadel unless the dlc is purchased

[N172]

Why does everyone pick those fastfood-characters of ME2.
Those who got the worst threatment, or at least some of them, are:
- Kal Reegar
- Shiala
- Emily Wong (Worst of all)

[ubermensch007]

Why does everyone pick those fastfood-characters of ME2.
Those who got the worst threatment, or at least some of them, are:
- Kal Reegar
- Shiala
- Emily Wong (Worst of all)

 

Amen brother

[Vazgen]

Why does everyone pick those fastfood-characters of ME2.
Those who got the worst threatment, or at least some of them, are:
- Kal Reegar
- Shiala
- Emily Wong (Worst of all)

Of these three I would only want to see Kal Reegar 

[ZipZap2000]

They crushed Jack's depth in ME3, she became a discard after use character and a space kitten, what's up with that haircut btw? 

 

Thane got terrible treatment all of 3 conversation options in a hospital? What? This guy was on the cover of ME2.

 

Miranda went from intriguing to strange, I wanted to tell her to stop taking a dramatic pose and saying stupid things in a ridiculous voice.

 

Samara was insightful, graceful, wise, sexy and dangerous to everyone she came across. She went from that to putting a gun to her own head without really thinking about why, the code also appears to have gotten the 'meh' treatment.

 

Legion doesn't feel the same, I always get excited to see him but it's never the same when you talk to him. An emotional Geth behaving like a scolded dog.......

 

Zaeed/Kasumi didn't have much to them to begin with but what they did have was well liked by many, that Kasumi mission is one of my favourites to see them become co-workers you see around the office now and then was disappointing.

 

What I liked was Tali/Liara finally becoming mature adults and amazons LOTSB sets liara up nicely with this and Tali develops better if you got her into the admiralty. Garrus finally becoming the renegade cop on a rampage, that his people needed him to be, fulfilling his perceived destiny and Kelly Chambers on the Citadel is very believable.

 

He is Urdnot Wrex and this is his planet. Best. Character. Ever.

[Mister J]

Liara growing up was good.... I guess.... But I feel it also took away the uniqueness of her character... Not so say that she became boring or generic, but more so than before...

[Vazgen]

They crushed Jack's depth in ME3, she became a discard after use character and a space kitten, what's up with that haircut btw? 

 

Thane got terrible treatment all of 3 conversation options in a hospital? What? This guy was on the cover of ME2.

 

Miranda went from intriguing to strange, I wanted to tell her to stop taking a dramatic pose and saying stupid things in a ridiculous voice.

 

Samara was insightful, graceful, wise, sexy and dangerous to everyone she came across. She went from that to putting a gun to her own head without really thinking about why, the code also appears to have gotten the 'meh' treatment.

 

Legion doesn't feel the same, I always get excited to see him but it's never the same when you talk to him. An emotional Geth behaving like a scolded dog.......

 

Zaeed/Kasumi didn't have much to them to begin with but what they did have was well liked by many, that Kasumi mission is one of my favourites to see them become co-workers you see around the office now and then was disappointing.

 

What I liked was Tali/Liara finally becoming mature adults and amazons LOTSB sets liara up nicely with this and Tali develops better if you got her into the admiralty. Garrus finally becoming the renegade cop on a rampage, that his people needed him to be, fulfilling his perceived destiny and Kelly Chambers on the Citadel is very believable.

 

He is Urdnot Wrex and this is his planet. Best. Character. Ever.

I loved Jack in ME3! Showed that working with you changed her for the better. She's still that bad*** chick, only learned to control her emotions better.

Agreed on Thane, though I never really liked him much. His fight with Kai Leng was the only time I felt he was useful.

Miranda... Cerberus cheerleader become more 'likeable' in ME3 but she's still quite low on my top squadmates list. She didn't change at all, same care about her sister, same problems with her father, same secrecy, same unwillingness to share her problems.

Legion changed quite significantly but there is Reaper code inside him after all. He was bound to act differently. I loved his conversation with Garrus

Never cared about Liara, was a relief not having her as a squadmate in ME2. Her change is the most apparent and you actually witness that growth through ME2, LOTSB and ME3.

[ZipZap2000]

I don't like Miranda much either but she was at least uniquely defined among the other squad mates. Probably more so than most with the exception of Ashley.

[Barquiel]

I would have loved all ME2 squaddies (Samara and Mordin were my favorites) getting more involved, but I guess that was unrealistic.

Mordin/Legion/Grunt/Jack/Samara had their awesome moments at least and some sort of closure (Wrex too). Miranda had her ME2 plot repeated...wasted potential here, imo. Jacob had a mediocre mission and his romance...no comment. Zaeed and Kasumi had small/disappointing roles, but they were DLC. Thane is a victim of cutscene stupidity (culminating in Garrus who can be in combat with Thane for nearly half of ME2 saying "glad nobody died"), and his role was only tolerable with the Citadel DLC. But whilst Thane deserved more screentime, I think a "cure Thane" scenario would have been ridiculous. Morinth gets banshee'd off screen, she definitely got the worst treatment in ME3. As in the previous two games, Tali only annoyed me. I was disappointed at the small amount of interaction and dialogue Ashley had after coming back to the Normandy. Liara and Garrus were great.

[Han Shot First]

Liara growing up was good.... I guess.... But I feel it also took away the uniqueness of her character... Not so say that she became boring or generic, but more so than before...

 

I liked Liara better in ME2, LOTSB, and ME3 than I did in ME1.

[Demonique]

Sorry but Ashley DOES count as her character was different from ME1/2, her out of character makeover, WTF? Her dislike of aliens was never brought up in ME3 so we didn't know if she'd outgrown it or not