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[CronoDragoon]

webhead921 wrote...

Speaking off topic, but I'm really glad I got the console versions of the ME games. I will never install origin on my computer.

I bought the PC version as well as PS3 and haven't played it. QQ

[RebelTitan428]

after dragon age 2 it became clear that bioware lacks strong writing skills needed for RPG's, and unique conclusions

ME3 was just the straw that broke the camels back.

[Urdnot Amenark]

RebelTitan428 wrote...

after dragon age 2 it became clear that bioware lacks strong writing skills needed for RPG's, and unique conclusions

ME3 was just the straw that broke the camels back.

The department responsible for DA II is different from the one responsible for ME 3. Your comparison isn't valid.

[iTallaNT]

spinachdiaper wrote...

Bioware is a namesake now not an individual company, hey it could be worse the EA part of the company could of been like lets turn Mass Effect into Madden Effect and made a yearly port out of this franchise that would of ruined the....

Oh god don't utter those words because they might actually come true >.> There is nothing worse then the retarted sports games that are spit out every year by EA.... and they love them because all they have to do is tweak the graphics a little each time to make millions off the saps who buy them.

[ticklefist]

darkiddd wrote...

Hackulator wrote...

ITT: OP invents the word "planification"

English isn't my first language. I must have mistaken what I meant with the spanish or french word.

You did fine. Planification is a word. You used it in proper context.

[xsdob]

I don't think bioware is doomed, they got enough probable sales to last though the drop will be significant. But what I do think is that bioware games need more time, which EA tries to do with it's pushbacks for the release dates, but they need more time than even that imo.

[ZackG312]

Remember Pandemic

Good games and then along came EA.

[LinksOcarina]

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

Remember Westwood is all I'm going to say on this matter.

A company that shot itselves in the foot when most of the seasonsed development team quit right after EA purchased them, forcing EA to put in new developers on a game half-complete, and then forcing the game out to get it out of the way to focus on the next title? 

Yeah, Westwood is purely innocent here. 

[Iakus]

Bioware's not doomed. Yet. They can still turn things around. But they need to reexamine what it was that made them unique and popular to begin with, rather than chasing a "broader audience" only to alienate the one they already have/had.

Modifié par iakus, 27 août 2012 - 04:17 .

[garrusfan1]

I don't think they are OP. I liked DA2 (not as much as origins) and me3 minus the ending was pretty good and honestly I think DA3 is not gonna be rushed like DA2 so calm down

[Tazzmission]

AxStapleton wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Kathleen321 wrote...

EA is killing Bioware but when you make a deal with the devil....

um no there not quit trying to make it sound like ea is the bad guy

id like to see you or anyone else work for any game publisher and see if you all say the same thing by than because im betting you all dont understand how things work in the industry of gaming

EA were thinking of charging people for extra ammo in Battlefield 3. They are making people rent out servers so they don't have to take up the costs (slowly phasing in Rented servers and slowly phasing out free servers). Origin monitors your activity to sell information to 3rd party advertisers. Whatever your opinion of ME3 or BioWare, you have to at least acknowledge that EA are in it for money over customer satisfaction.

if you think its just ea you oviously are missing the big picture because it isnt just them

when ea comes out and decides to charge people 30 bucks for an elite deal online than you will have a point but right now i can name a hell of alot worse publishers than ea

[dbt-kenny]

A Few good point you missed one. Cross platform games.

Most games are now cross platform what EA and the others have form got each platform have is own strength and weakness. Some type of game just play better on the one type of platform. Take the Xbox you can get a keyboard and mouse for to play FPS on but hardcore Xbox players think that is cheating.

A game that runs over 3 platforms will not please everyone but can very easily upset everyone.
ME3 is a classic Xbox game to me not much story that has anything to do with what you’re doing at all. The ending sucks. Only thing it has not got is the end boos fight.

If I get a pc game I want to play a pc not a xbox game on my pc.

[phat0817]

xsdob wrote...

I don't think bioware is doomed, they got enough probable sales to last though the drop will be significant. But what I do think is that bioware games need more time, which EA tries to do with it's pushbacks for the release dates, but they need more time than even that imo.

Yep Bioware needs more time to produce there games is all. Until then there games will continue to feel rushed...

[CronoDragoon]

phat0817 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I don't think bioware is doomed, they got enough probable sales to last though the drop will be significant. But what I do think is that bioware games need more time, which EA tries to do with it's pushbacks for the release dates, but they need more time than even that imo.

Yep Bioware needs more time to produce there games is all. Until then there games will continue to feel rushed...

Mass Effect 2 didn't feel rushed, and it had a similar development cycle to ME3.

[Tazzmission]

phat0817 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I don't think bioware is doomed, they got enough probable sales to last though the drop will be significant. But what I do think is that bioware games need more time, which EA tries to do with it's pushbacks for the release dates, but they need more time than even that imo.

Yep Bioware needs more time to produce there games is all. Until then there games will continue to feel rushed...

if you think me3 was rushed than you seriously have no idea what rushed means

it was pushed back from a holiday 2011 release till 2012

[phat0817]

Tazzmission wrote...

phat0817 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I don't think bioware is doomed, they got enough probable sales to last though the drop will be significant. But what I do think is that bioware games need more time, which EA tries to do with it's pushbacks for the release dates, but they need more time than even that imo.

Yep Bioware needs more time to produce there games is all. Until then there games will continue to feel rushed...

if you think me3 was rushed than you seriously have no idea what rushed means

it was pushed back from a holiday 2011 release till 2012

Yes I remember that but that was only done to add Kinect to the game..
Your right I don't know how gaming industry works nor would I try to..I can only state my personal opinion that me3 and da2 felt rushed..

Modifié par phat0817, 27 août 2012 - 05:08 .

[darkiddd]

Tazzmission wrote...

phat0817 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I don't think bioware is doomed, they got enough probable sales to last though the drop will be significant. But what I do think is that bioware games need more time, which EA tries to do with it's pushbacks for the release dates, but they need more time than even that imo.

Yep Bioware needs more time to produce there games is all. Until then there games will continue to feel rushed...

if you think me3 was rushed than you seriously have no idea what rushed means

it was pushed back from a holiday 2011 release till 2012

Now imagine if they had released ME3 in november 2011 what game we would have.

I honestly think that Bioware believed Mass Effect 3 ending and many of its weak points were good enough because they were much worse before back in October-November.

I'm sure the game improved with the extra time they won but it was still rushed nonetheless. They should have delayed its release date till november 2012 at least.

[Gemini1179]

Deemz wrote...

I liked DA2 and parts of ME3. I don't think they are doomed. They do seem to be heading in a slightly different direction with their storytelling. But, that is what companies do, evolve. I think that would have happened even without EA. the direction might have been different is all.

If what DA2 and ME3 are represent 'evolution' to you, you and I have two VERY different ideas about evolution.

I'm not going to be a doomsayer, but there are established patterns, business and otherwise that I can see BioWare falling in to. DA2 had so few redeeming things about it that they had to stop DLC production because there was no demand; ME3- well, the backlash on that has been described enough.

Forget about TOR. I'm still playing it because I don't play any other MMO, but even my guildies who haven't already switched to Guild Wars 2 are asking me to "try" WoW. The game has ~500 000 subscribers and is bleeding customers everyday because the game lacks fundamental mechanics, is horribly buggy and new content isn't really that engrossing. Patch 1.3 "Allies" brought in a group finder that was bugged on release. The last "World Event" was bugged on release and was really poorly thought out with re-skinned rewards and rewards that were already in game, just not unlocked.

Bottom line is: Accountants and shareholders don't make great games. Only time will tell if BioWare can retain enough customers to remain viable. The layoffs already started and business analysts have seen these things hundreds of times before.

[Atakuma]

Tazzmission wrote...

phat0817 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I don't think bioware is doomed, they got enough probable sales to last though the drop will be significant. But what I do think is that bioware games need more time, which EA tries to do with it's pushbacks for the release dates, but they need more time than even that imo.

Yep Bioware needs more time to produce there games is all. Until then there games will continue to feel rushed...

if you think me3 was rushed than you seriously have no idea what rushed means

it was pushed back from a holiday 2011 release till 2012

It recieved roughly an extra two months of development when they requested six. It was rushed.

[darkiddd]

Atakuma wrote...

It recieved roughly an extra two months of development when they requested six. It was rushed.

It wouldn't surprise me but how do you know they requested EA six more months of development? 

[Gemini1179]

darkiddd wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

It recieved roughly an extra two months of development when they requested six. It was rushed.

It wouldn't surprise me but how do you know they requested EA six more months of development? 

I think that came from the Final days of Mass Effect 3 app or at least I think Casey said it. Doesn't matter. The product screams 'rushed' anyway.

[wolfsite]

Been a while since we've seen a Bioware is doomed thread (What 2 - 3days?) was getting worried there for a moment.

[Atakuma]

darkiddd wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

It recieved roughly an extra two months of development when they requested six. It was rushed.

It wouldn't surprise me but how do you know they requested EA six more months of development? 

I wish I could remember, because now it just sounds like i'm making it up.

[shepskisaac]

Even though I don't like this "doom & gloom" tone, it is obvious that EA simply doesn't get that RPGs need more dev time (especially more complex like ME3 where tens of big variables from previous 2 games accumulated) than 4-hour dudebro shooters